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NitroN7
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada18 Posts
May 24 2010 10:44 GMT
#4581
Wahay. I love LoL.

Well, not at the moment as Pirate's really, really UP right now, but once he gets buffed I love LoL!.

Right now I'm playing Ezreal and Nasus. However Pirate's my main.


NitroN7 is my In game name,.
I play Terran for the music.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 24 2010 10:54 GMT
#4582
On May 24 2010 15:29 redtooth wrote:
btw Brees misses you guys. he says he's lonely without this thread and appreciates the high quality advice and information posted on here. he can't wait to get off from his ban and join back in to the intellectual and high level brainstorming we do here.

My favorite part of Wrawra/redtooth is that he is never sarcastic in his posts.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
May 24 2010 11:11 GMT
#4583
It's probably better than being really sarcastic towards teammates who cause you to lose a game without ever really teamfighting.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 24 2010 11:33 GMT
#4584
So, my winrate with warwick is quickly becoming better than any other champion...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 24 2010 12:55 GMT
#4585
On May 24 2010 14:44 HeavOnEarth wrote:
lol amumu fiddle kat and ezreal.. and throw in a janna. melee dps worst nightmare.


Actually Pantheon is incredibly annoying to Fiddle. His jumpy-stun outranges anything Fiddle has. The only way to avoid getting hit by the full combo (and Panth's burst is usually enough to kill Fiddle) is to target him with fear when you see him coming -- the fear will be cast in mid-air, causing it take affect post-stun, preventing jav/heartseeker/autoattack from being used afterward. Because his jump is so fast, however, you have to do this before he starts it, and as soon as you target it Fiddle will start walking toward him, which is usually not what you want.

Now Yi, on the other hand, is basically a non-entity for Fiddle unless he has merc treads.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
May 24 2010 14:19 GMT
#4586
God, Twitch is like, impossible to play now hahah.

I ended up being 1-4-1 to start a game (~15 mins) and I didn't even feel like I was doing anything wrong. Too many jumper heroes :|
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
May 24 2010 14:30 GMT
#4587
On May 24 2010 23:19 Southlight wrote:
God, Twitch is like, impossible to play now hahah.

I ended up being 1-4-1 to start a game (~15 mins) and I didn't even feel like I was doing anything wrong. Too many jumper heroes :|

u need to play like a pansy and rely on janna to save your ass all the time
8==========))
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
May 24 2010 14:34 GMT
#4588
For me it's kind of like...

When I play Jax there is ALWAYS a Trist on the other team (which really fucks you up late-game).
When I play Twitch there is ALWAYS a Jax on the other team and that makes you @#$@#$ing rage.

But that game there was a Jax Shen Ez, which isn't even really rare. But it was like *unstealth* HI GUYS *3 guys jump at me and instadead* BYE GUYS!
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 24 2010 15:33 GMT
#4589
When I play Pantheon, there are ALWAYS much better heroes on the other team (which really fucks you up at like, 20 minutes).

in other words, QQ moar playing good heroes Utah, hahaha.

On May 24 2010 21:55 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 14:44 HeavOnEarth wrote:
lol amumu fiddle kat and ezreal.. and throw in a janna. melee dps worst nightmare.


Actually Pantheon is incredibly annoying to Fiddle. His jumpy-stun outranges anything Fiddle has. The only way to avoid getting hit by the full combo (and Panth's burst is usually enough to kill Fiddle) is to target him with fear when you see him coming -- the fear will be cast in mid-air, causing it take affect post-stun, preventing jav/heartseeker/autoattack from being used afterward. Because his jump is so fast, however, you have to do this before he starts it, and as soon as you target it Fiddle will start walking toward him, which is usually not what you want.

Now Yi, on the other hand, is basically a non-entity for Fiddle unless he has merc treads.

Jesus Christ, Pantheon is fucking terrible without spells and you're talking about how he's good vs. Fiddle? the fuck are you smoking? do you not get points in dark wind? cause seriously, you just bounce crows around and Pantheon is worthless. Yes, it's a counter solomid early game, but that's Pantheon vs. anyone other than Kat or Karthus for ya. In teamfights, Fiddle fucking rapes Pantheon sideways. You don't counter the jump with fear, you counter it with crow, cause his fucking heartseeker still goes off and goes on cool down, but it doesn't do any damage. Silence vs. Heartseeker is pretty much the most demoralizing thing in the game. And hey, they both work anyway, so you can still just make him useless most of the time with dark wind and if you fuck up horrendously, you still win by fearing him. CC vs. Pantheon is a goddamn nightmare.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 15:53:28
May 24 2010 15:39 GMT
#4590
Hah, I played a game earlier against
Nidalee/Shen(jungle)/Ezreal/Ashe/Soraka
We lost in 25:06 and it didn't even feel like we were doing anything wrong, we just couldn't stop that shit. It just... ended.

Edit:
Probably what frustrates me the most right now is that... I try really hard not to mind people playing "underpowered" heroes, or heroes that are "different" (ie. Gangplank, AP Yi) that don't necessarily suck or anything.

But it's INCREDIBLY difficult lining up a proper setup, and figuring out tactics etc. when running abnormal stuff.

Like, I'm sure AP Yi is quite strong. Hotshot loves it, evidently. But you have to run a build AROUND AP Yi because he has such shitty synergy with most heroes. Like you need a crapton of disables and burst nukers so that when he uses Alpha, you can keep the enemies in the area, while nuking one down so HL resets CD, etc. So you end up needing shit like Amumu and Veigar (lol!) with their massive AoE snares for it to really work. Because AP Yi doesn't do anything except kill heroes, and not even particularly well at that (he's just really hard to kill himself).

But it's really obvious when a team sets up a real team, like WW Shen Ashe Ez Soraka, because they just steamroll you 5v5 right up in ~25 minutes, because as much as mobility has been buffed, a strong team will still roll your face by forcing a teamfight and kicking your ass. It's still the strongest strat.

Beyond that most of my frustration the past few days has come from the fact that I've been finding it bizarrely easier to set up teamfights and team pushes while solo queue than when premading with people I've been playing with for weeks. It's mind-boggling and really annoying.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 24 2010 15:44 GMT
#4591
Does this game take up a lot of your time?
I might sign up if it isn't too intense
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
May 24 2010 15:47 GMT
#4592
It's like Starcraft in terms of time devotion. It's a bit longer on average (5v5 map tends to go 25-40 minutes, while the 3v3 map is a bit shorter), but aside from the duration of games most of the time-sucking will come from the playing of the game over and over again.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 24 2010 16:19 GMT
#4593
In terms of skill curve it's much different, though - you become reasonably competent fairly quickly (much faster if you get in on TL premades :D). Attaining basic competency with a character or two (i.e. learning their skills, combos, synergy, item builds, playstyle...) is fairly simple. Of course, this varies from character to character - it's why you see a lot of Ashe, Tristana, Annie, and (at lower levels) Yi. They're pretty easy to play well. Of course, there's still a lot of space for being AMAZING... I once played with and against Shurelia on Annie and she was consistently able to beat down people 1v2 because she knew just what she could get away with.

THEN you have to learn how the character interacts with the others - who he lanes well with/against, who to watch out for, when you can towerdive, when you have to go back to heal, and so on. These are the people who you watch and are amazed by as they turn around and burst someone down from half health or kite someone around, wearing them down until they have to run.

THEN you have to learn how to be a team player. That's the hardest one, especially since you have to sort-of-relearn it if you play with different people. These are the pros, the people who win games. You hear Southlight talking about "messing up calls" or making bad decisions occasionally, and this is that. This is metagame, this is decision-making, this is map awareness, this is knowing where to be and when. Support heroes are mostly about learning this, IMO.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 16:40:47
May 24 2010 16:40 GMT
#4594
On May 25 2010 00:39 Southlight wrote:Beyond that most of my frustration the past few days has come from the fact that I've been finding it bizarrely easier to set up teamfights and team pushes while solo queue than when premading with people I've been playing with for weeks. It's mind-boggling and really annoying.

uhg, yea, I dunno what was up last night but we didn't seem to be on the same page at all. Maybe I was just fucking tired cause it was 5 in the morning, but damn, I felt like our team chemistry was really bad last night.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
May 24 2010 16:48 GMT
#4595
It's been the case for the past few days, I dunno. We lost a game where Chibi was like fucking 10-0-10 at one point, it was really, really frustrating.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 24 2010 17:02 GMT
#4596
Yea, I hate games like that. I remember a game I played with my scrubby friends where I opened 13-0-7 with Pantheon, and we just got completely rolled around the 25 minute mark. They kept saying "let our amumu tank" and I kept being like, "I have a lot moar HP, a lot moar Armor, and a lot moar Magic Resist than our amumu, he's just dying before we can get into fights because he's so underleveled and underfarmed and he has a fucking philosopher's stone instead of a useful item." Uhg, I was so pissed.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 17:22:44
May 24 2010 17:20 GMT
#4597
AP Yi is very strong imho. Dunno about team comps that would work with him, but he has some pretty devastating tools on his own. Good escape mechanism, pushes towers really fast(with highlander), really strong burst, can also chase He is really a pain in the ass because you can't burst him down if he gets Zhonya. He is quite vunerable to disables and stuns like any hero. I'm not sure how to play him yet, but he might just be the next OP like HotshotGG said.

Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 24 2010 17:28 GMT
#4598
I refuse to believe AP Yi is OP lol. I'm still yet to see a good one I guess, but something about his skillset just doesn't leave me shaking in my boots about AP builds.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
May 24 2010 17:38 GMT
#4599
Hehe... well he is probably not OP, but he is still pretty good. You should try him out just for giggles.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 24 2010 17:39 GMT
#4600
I get enough giggles playing Pantheon :p. If I dick around with other characters, I lose too much and then I don't wanna play this damn game anymore, lol.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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