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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-11 20:15:07
September 11 2009 20:07 GMT
#81
On September 12 2009 04:55 Phelix wrote:
Although 50k houses are better space wise, you do not want other people plopping down hazards on your street, so that's why the 75k houses are better, as it takes up more space. Both give back a 1:1 ratio of price to rent. The gaps are weird, but what can you do. Maybe when they reset, I'll start/own a small town instead of competing against many in a big metropolitan area.


no that's the thing
as you level up, the price: rent ratio changes (seemingly randomly, although it sort of (not completely, but sort of) follows a linear decrease)
for instance at level 2, the 50k gives you 41k, while the 75k gives you 61k, i.e. 82% vs 81.3%

that's what i was talking about when i said we should make a chart of the price: rent ratios as you level up\

edit: here's a list of all the ratios for level 2. I've highlighted the 2 that you might consider buying (aside from the 50k's ofc) given your wealth at that level
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(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
September 11 2009 20:15 GMT
#82
Oh, I did not notice that. I am level 2, but the rent level did not change for me, so that's kind of strange.

In any case, I agree that we should make a chart detailing the changes, but I'd imagine it would be pretty difficult to reach a high level quickly. Also, we have not yet taken into account the chance cards that appear, since low level housing provides more opportunities for chance cards, which may offset the rent decreases.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-11 20:23:43
September 11 2009 20:16 GMT
#83
Wait a minute..
you're level 2 and your rent is still the same as level 1?
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I don't have a hazard or anything (not that I have ever seen one that can do something like this)
This is pretty big....

maybe it is based on the number of streets you have? I have 3, but the decrease came when I got 2, I believe


edit2: also have we figured out what causes chance cards to appear? you said low level housing has the potential for more of them -- every time you make a "move" in this game (like building, selling or buying.. and maybe logging in etc) you roll for a possibility to get a chance card? Or is it just completely random? I've only gotten one, but I've built a lot of low level houses
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-11 20:37:57
September 11 2009 20:27 GMT
#84
Could be based on the number of streets, but I think the level is determined by how much you have accumulated over the course of the amount of gameplay.

I own 2 streets. Maybe the rent will change once I receive my income, but it has been the same for today.

EDIT:JeeJee, you are correct in that Chance cards appear when you make a transaction with building houses and logging in. The chances I think are about 25% per transaction, since I built 27 houses yesterday, and got 5 bonuses, as well as 2 cash cards with the Chance cards. Bonus buildings are so important, especially the ones that protect you from hazards that even if the cheapest houses get a poor ratio of price to rent, the player would still want to purchase just for the chance of getting it.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 11 2009 20:33 GMT
#85
My income has only ticked once so that can't be it. The only other thing I can think of is I have a stadium on one of my streets? but that's a bonus apparently, I have a hard time believing it would lower rent for all buildings.. so it's either 3 streets or a bonus building at this point (most likely the former)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-11 20:49:44
September 11 2009 20:40 GMT
#86
I am pretty sure that the original cost of the street (however that is calculated) is the main factor of how much rent an individual building (per street) makes. Aka - if you had a 1m street and a 100k street, the 1m street would make (for example~) 10 times more money from rent - with the building prices unchanged, only the gains from rent.

So the best thing I can think of to do is to buy the most expensive streets you can (how street prices are determined is a complete mystery to me) and fill them up with buildings so that they can't be hazarded. If you happened to have a very high quality (read as: priced) street, then I guess maybe it's more likely for others to try to wreck it/buy it/whatnot?

No idea what the level is based on. Probably just on score, which seems to be calculated totally mystically at this time. I haven't seen it do anything spiffy though (the level, that is).

(I could be 100% wrong on all of this. If anybody has better information, or more exact information, please go ahead and mock me for my ignorance =x )

My ID is Obzy on the game, by the way.
edit -
TL ACC - ID in Monopoly - City
Obzy - Obzy - Pullman, WA
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
September 11 2009 20:48 GMT
#87
The gaming rules also state that if you own many streets together, you get more income. Also, the rent depends on real life population, as to how many people live in your area.

Prices for streets are determined by the length of the street, as well as other factors that I do not know of.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 00:22:57
September 11 2009 23:58 GMT
#88
Population affects rent a lot. On one of my streets I get significantly less rent for buildings.

How do some people have over one billion dollars?
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 00:29:56
September 12 2009 00:07 GMT
#89
On September 12 2009 05:48 Phelix wrote:
The gaming rules also state that if you own many streets together, you get more income. Also, the rent depends on real life population, as to how many people live in your area.


ooh gaming rules? link? i haven't actually read any literature on this game mainly because i haven't been able to find any

edit: another little tidbit
selling stuff gets you back 50%
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
September 12 2009 00:22 GMT
#90
Registered. "CFDknight" is my account.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
September 12 2009 00:57 GMT
#91
South Korea is as good as mine,
Also, when can you level up? Is it random?
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
September 12 2009 01:01 GMT
#92
On September 12 2009 09:57 Neos wrote:
South Korea is as good as mine,
Also, when can you level up? Is it random?

You level up when your score reaches a certain value. Level 2 is around 5 million. Level 3 is 10 million.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
September 12 2009 01:03 GMT
#93
So are they actually going to reset it?
ModeratorGodfather
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
September 12 2009 01:30 GMT
#94
Yeah, they are gonna reset it.
Shame cause I was getting the hang of it too
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
September 12 2009 01:39 GMT
#95
Whoops, should have read the thread already, sorry. Yeah, I already owned half my town
ModeratorGodfather
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
September 12 2009 02:08 GMT
#96
Ahh, they are resetting it? Darn, I just got another street and got rid of all my hazards.

Anyways I think I can confirm that chance cards only appear on "moves". I made like 8 greenhouses or so on one street and got 4 chance cards in the process.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:40:32
September 12 2009 02:33 GMT
#97
Damn, I started yesterday, started buying streets around my area, then somebody came and started expanding in my streets today.

And I'm playing it the monopoly way, buy all the streets than build houses.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-12 02:47:27
September 12 2009 02:44 GMT
#98
On September 12 2009 11:08 Kletus wrote:
Ahh, they are resetting it? Darn, I just got another street and got rid of all my hazards.

Anyways I think I can confirm that chance cards only appear on "moves". I made like 8 greenhouses or so on one street and got 4 chance cards in the process.


i can also confirm they appear when you buy streets (maybe at a lower rate?)
i have bought 12 streets and got 2 chance cards in the process

also as expected, my pathetic 3 million offer for that street was rejected
god i'm so pissed off there's a limit to how much you can offer.. anyway i killed all the buildings on that street and put a hazard there in hopes of having the owner say "fuck it FINE take the street"
1.5 times the value is just NOT enough.. what a dumb cap

oh yeah and i'm running a login/logout script to confirm whether you get any chancies on login/logout. one person mentioned they did, but it's either extremely rare or they just didn't remember that they built a house or something
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
September 12 2009 02:54 GMT
#99
My rent still reflects the 1:1 value for the 50k and 75k houses. Although I am running out of room to build since everyone in the area I bought has taken every single street, which is making me harder to find new properties. The one plus is that I put a hazard that was taking 5.1 million rent with one of my chance cards.

I guess I'll invade some other town or state where no one lives, like Montana, haha!
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 12 2009 03:00 GMT
#100
Yes, rent is different based on streets, apparently. I have streets that give full value, streets that give the values I listed above.. and streets that give garbage value. This is somehow related to the initial purchase price. Speaking of which most streets seem to cap out at 1 million, but there are exceptions. Wall street is 375 million, bay street (canada's version of wall street) is 1 billion, and i've seen some others that are a few million. Most top out at $1,000,000 though. What's up with that, anyone know? Are these special streets or some shit?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
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