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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36383 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-03 06:21:46
November 03 2007 05:06 GMT
#61
edited.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
November 03 2007 05:27 GMT
#62
FE? This is a joke...
Administrator
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
November 03 2007 05:28 GMT
#63
Goodbye everyone, HB is going to kill me now.
Administrator
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
November 03 2007 05:31 GMT
#64
lol
Moderator<:3-/-<
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36383 Posts
November 03 2007 05:32 GMT
#65
DIE BOB

@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-03 06:02:37
November 03 2007 05:57 GMT
#66
(Altho I have a guess about how you might feel by now when seeing me addressing DJ's articles...)

But in all objectivity it seems to me people lack DJ going any further with the data. If we strip down the dressing we see one thing being said: "To win an OSL you need an overall theoretical minimum of 65.31% winning percentage from qualifiers to the trophy."

Now the thought of this is rather interesting, and I'm sure even tho lots of people figured this out back in 2001 or so, it has probably never been addressed so directly. But had DJ chosen to play around some with this quite intriguing number, like say - analyzing player's records and why some of them are champions altho their ratios don't fit, and others have brilliant ratios but choke - I'm sure most people would have been satisfied.

Of course, it is most probable that DJ has formulated his article in this way precisely to leave all the thought-process to the readers, and generate discussion... But then you should understand that as well, HB, - and also understand that some people are just bound to "not get it".

To summarize, the article's content is something one would see a thread in the Tournament section created about - sparking a discussion, but leaving it to the forum visitors to go beyond the raw data. It is this fundamental difference as compared to the other FE articles that leaves the sense of "lacking something" in most of the critics, I'm sure.

Oh, and in-before anything else: I'm not defending ZergZoul, this is just an analysis of the situation.
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
November 03 2007 06:10 GMT
#67
On November 03 2007 13:04 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2007 12:56 xBTx wrote:
On November 02 2007 17:37 DJEtterStyle wrote:


[*]Go 10-6 in the OSL.By following the above-outlined method, anyone can win the OSL with a mere 65.31% winning percentage. Get a solid D average and you’re a champion!

But all this research begs the question: because my easy-to-follow steps were not published until just now, who is going to win the current OSL? The answer lies in the percentage. Only one player in the current OSL has a winning percentage above 65.31%, and that player is Jaedong. So who’s going to win the current OSL? Jaedong. You can’t argue with science.


If you check right now, Jaedong's winning percentage is exactly 65.31%.

FATE.
[/list]

No, its RIGGED.
>.>
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36383 Posts
November 03 2007 06:12 GMT
#68
It's a fun article meant to be a joke. Clearly it's ridiculously hard to win an OSL and boiling it down to purely 65% win rate, not to mention to use that to determine the next OSL winner and discounting factors like maps, strength of players, randomness of groups, matchup weaknesses, format, group selection, pressure play, amount of leagues the player is in, etc... is ridiculous.

I thought this was assumed. It'll truly fly over some peoples' heads, but whatever. Think of it more as an article aimed at those who would laugh at the absurdity of the claims Etter makes here.

In no way is he actually making any real points or wanting to spark discussion about using %s and winrates to determine a winner or strongest player.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
November 03 2007 06:53 GMT
#69
HB, I've been thinking since long ago what that major, fundamental difference is that makes us stand so far apart.

And just now I realised!

You're a Legalist - I'm a Confucianist.

By golly, WTF, superpope!
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 03 2007 08:53 GMT
#70
omg stork in dinosaur outfit was fake?!

my heart T_T...
Hates Fun🤔
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
November 03 2007 09:17 GMT
#71
On November 03 2007 07:51 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2007 03:38 MeriaDoKk wrote:
ok im in korea now.... where do i go ?


DON'T GO NORTH!!!


Indeed ^^
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 03 2007 11:24 GMT
#72
On November 03 2007 17:53 paper wrote:
omg stork in dinosaur outfit was fake?!

my heart T_T...


Don't worry, that image is 100% real.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
November 03 2007 12:48 GMT
#73
entertaining read =)
Razamataz
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada135 Posts
November 03 2007 16:54 GMT
#74
The giant flame war was almost as entertaining as the original post, good job everyone!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 03 2007 17:29 GMT
#75
If Jaedong wins the osl DJetter is a prophet
ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
November 03 2007 18:11 GMT
#76
On November 03 2007 13:25 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2007 12:54 hwasingodlysense wrote:
no.
anytime won so1 through dedication. not through statistics.


add this to the thread title please. ; )
anytime... winner of so1 osl... pride of south korea...

sup carlo?


you just cannot get bored with carlo =DDD

nice to see him back!
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 03 2007 18:58 GMT
#77
Wow, I personaly didnt want to assault anyone with my comment. Just wanted to say that this is not as entertaining as the other FE articles. No offence to anyone.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 03 2007 20:31 GMT
#78
That may be, but on a related note, it's more entertaining than your face.

Furthermore, I would have been dumb enough to respond to you and mynock 6 months ago. Though I'm still dumb enough to have a debate with berated, completely ruining the thread (sorry DJ ), and escalating what was nothing but a punchline under the careful watch of HotBid, at least I'm improving.

In closing, it is now official that it takes more cunning tactics to bait ManaBlue. The hunt for the right flavour is on!
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-04 06:54:05
November 04 2007 06:53 GMT
#79
If this article is a "scientific" one, why in heading there is a "unscientific" word "Easy" used? :D

This is not a serious article, must be deleted
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
November 05 2007 09:04 GMT
#80
lol please let fakesteve and hot_bid do the Final Edits
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