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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 29 2011 12:38 GMT
#3381
On November 29 2011 21:30 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:18 pPingu wrote:
Polt and sage played both terribly and forgg played well.

Maybe waiting an opponent who will not fuck up everything would be a good idea before hyping him like that.

Sure he is gonna be one of the best players, but people seem to think he will just win the 5 next gsl using only one hand.

Superior players make their opponents look terrible, his management and multitask were just on another level to Sage and Polt. Good players make you fuck up and Forgg is damn good.


Polt had his missile turrets too late, forgg did nothing special to delay them and polt could have made his enginering bay much quicker. Droping in the tank range isn't good play from forgg, it's just terrible from polt. And making your medivacs fly over the opponent marines isn't good play from your opponent.

Forgg had an excellent macro and positioning and he controled his banshees really well but polt fucked up his control really badly, and he is known for having a really good control. He shouldn't lose that many units to banshees.
tripledoubles
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia213 Posts
November 29 2011 12:41 GMT
#3382
On November 29 2011 20:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
Bump! This thread was hard to fin d.


subtle yet effective
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
November 29 2011 12:42 GMT
#3383
Are you serious? ForGG just played the same build twice and Polt thinks he can win a TvT without Tanks.
People are so retarded for calling players great just because they played one or two good series. ForGG is on the Level of HongUn.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 12:43:48
November 29 2011 12:43 GMT
#3384
I don't get what this bump was for. A good BW player who's been massing games for almost a year and been a top GM player for almost ten months managed to reach Code A ro16? That's a chocker. Thumbs up for him I guess?
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 12:47:37
November 29 2011 12:46 GMT
#3385
On November 29 2011 21:36 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?



Someone who had little to no name in BW making a new name for himself in SC2 is different from someone who already had a name and fame in BW suddenly wanting to be someone else. If someday Flash switches to SC2 and wants to be called Sparkles, well fuck that, he's still Flash. I mean, I don't agree with saying that ForGG shouldn't be called Fin, but man, it's never going to stop being weird every time someone does it.

Yeah similar to when well-known bw pros try to change their names, like Kal.

On November 29 2011 21:42 Rikke wrote:
Are you serious? ForGG just played the same build twice and Polt thinks he can win a TvT without Tanks.
People are so retarded for calling players great just because they played one or two good series. ForGG is on the Level of HongUn.


People like you are delusional. He just crushed through 2 good tosses and supposedly one of the best tvt'ers and a former GSL champ. He's easily going to code S next season and is way better than HongUn.
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 29 2011 12:48 GMT
#3386
We could start calling players by their real names instead and we won't have problem.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 29 2011 12:49 GMT
#3387
The elephant is strong in this one.
Cackle™
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 29 2011 12:50 GMT
#3388
I hope he changes his ID back to ForGG, I seem to hate fin as an ID.
WriterXiao8~~
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 29 2011 12:51 GMT
#3389
On November 29 2011 21:49 TheKefka wrote:
The elephant is strong in this one.

hahahaha
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 29 2011 12:52 GMT
#3390
On November 29 2011 21:42 Rikke wrote:
Are you serious? ForGG just played the same build twice and Polt thinks he can win a TvT without Tanks.
People are so retarded for calling players great just because they played one or two good series. ForGG is on the Level of HongUn.

LOL, looks like someone lost their liquibet.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
November 29 2011 12:53 GMT
#3391
On November 29 2011 21:46 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:36 Kiett wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?



Someone who had little to no name in BW making a new name for himself in SC2 is different from someone who already had a name and fame in BW suddenly wanting to be someone else. If someday Flash switches to SC2 and wants to be called Sparkles, well fuck that, he's still Flash. I mean, I don't agree with saying that ForGG shouldn't be called Fin, but man, it's never going to stop being weird every time someone does it.

Yeah similar to when well-known bw pros try to change their names, like Kal.

Yeah, Kal -> Goojilla, Baby -> Ty, Free -> Pretty come to mind. Known progamers changing their ID's is stupid. Forgg will always be forgg. Sangho -> Killer kinda worked because he was not as famous but a Starleague champ (with multiple nicknames) will always be known by the ID they won with.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 29 2011 12:54 GMT
#3392
On November 29 2011 21:53 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:46 Subversive wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:36 Kiett wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?



Someone who had little to no name in BW making a new name for himself in SC2 is different from someone who already had a name and fame in BW suddenly wanting to be someone else. If someday Flash switches to SC2 and wants to be called Sparkles, well fuck that, he's still Flash. I mean, I don't agree with saying that ForGG shouldn't be called Fin, but man, it's never going to stop being weird every time someone does it.

Yeah similar to when well-known bw pros try to change their names, like Kal.

Yeah, Kal -> Goojilla, Baby -> Ty, Free -> Pretty come to mind. Known progamers changing their ID's is stupid. Forgg will always be forgg. Sangho -> Killer kinda worked because he was not as famous but a Starleague champ (with multiple nicknames) will always be known by the ID they won with.

It's because in korea they go by their real names more often than not so it doesn't really matter as much. They most likely regard their IDs as just for battlenet and stuff
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
November 29 2011 12:55 GMT
#3393
Sorry, but ForGG advancing to Code A Ro24 doesn't prove that Brood War players will dominate instantly after switching. He'll have to dominate the next code S to back up that statement.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 29 2011 12:58 GMT
#3394
On November 29 2011 21:55 Wivyx wrote:
Sorry, but ForGG advancing to Code A Ro24 doesn't prove that Brood War players will dominate instantly after switching. He'll have to dominate the next code S to back up that statement.

BW players have dominated SC2 since the beginning and continue to do so. You think all the code S players played sc1 for a year or two and just practiced really hard when sc2 came along?
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
November 29 2011 12:59 GMT
#3395
question do u put grubby and tod anywhere near JD and Flash ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 13:02:00
November 29 2011 13:01 GMT
#3396
We know ForGG has potential, seeing his record in brood war. But he's been playing for 10 months orso already so it's not really a shocker at all. Want to see how he'd do against MVP or MMA in an official bo3 match.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#3397
On November 29 2011 21:59 clownzim wrote:
question do u put grubby and tod anywhere near JD and Flash ?


In another game, yes. In SC2 hell no
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 29 2011 13:03 GMT
#3398
On November 29 2011 21:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:55 Wivyx wrote:
Sorry, but ForGG advancing to Code A Ro24 doesn't prove that Brood War players will dominate instantly after switching. He'll have to dominate the next code S to back up that statement.

BW players have dominated SC2 since the beginning and continue to do so. You think all the code S players played sc1 for a year or two and just practiced really hard when sc2 came along?


Yes but almost every pro who switched played either BW or War3 when SC2 came out. Also the reason for example MVP is dominate in SC2 is because what he did in BW is actually the right way to play SC2. Just as, while ForGGs opponents played too bad for me to be impressed by them, the things that he was good at also transfer over well to sc2(also about 8 months of training will help with that as well)
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 29 2011 13:03 GMT
#3399
On November 29 2011 22:01 Kazuki wrote:
We know ForGG has potential, seeing his record in brood war. But he's been playing for 10 months orso already so it's not really a shocker at all. Want to see how he'd do against MVP or MMA in an official bo3 match.

Well he's shown his tvp is fine against Sage and Tassadar. And his tvt against taeja and Polt. All he is left to prove is his tvz and see how far he can get in code S.
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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
November 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#3400
On November 29 2011 21:53 Scarecrow wrote:
Yeah, Kal -> Goojilla, Baby -> Ty, Free -> Pretty come to mind. Known progamers changing their ID's is stupid. Forgg will always be forgg. Sangho -> Killer kinda worked because he was not as famous but a Starleague champ (with multiple nicknames) will always be known by the ID they won with.


He won Arena MSL after he had already switched his ID to Never, which he stuck with until he retired from brood war, so that's not really the case.
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