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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
November 29 2011 12:10 GMT
#3361
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
November 29 2011 12:10 GMT
#3362
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
November 29 2011 12:10 GMT
#3363
On November 29 2011 20:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
Bump! This thread was hard to fin d.



when i saw this on the main sub chart for Sc2 i knew in the back of my head who bumped it and for what reason...glad to see i was right lol....
Twitter: iF0CUS
atmuh
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
November 29 2011 12:11 GMT
#3364
its nice to see this again
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 12:12:26
November 29 2011 12:11 GMT
#3365
Polt should have built turrets instead of letting Forgg's banshee a-move over his mineral line in game two.

Even though I fully agree that when the BW pros do migrate, that the whole landscape of the top players will change in months time.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
November 29 2011 12:12 GMT
#3366
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
November 29 2011 12:14 GMT
#3367
Yes, Brood War players will own when they switch over. That doesn't make a competition a farce. Match fixing makes it a farce. It has nothing to do with players skill levels. It could be between bronze leaguers and be a legit competition.

Just hoping to get this in there before people start arguing again. Trying to nip it in the bud.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 29 2011 12:16 GMT
#3368
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 29 2011 12:16 GMT
#3369
On November 29 2011 20:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
Bump! This thread was hard to fin d.


Oh you...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
November 29 2011 12:17 GMT
#3370
On November 29 2011 21:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?



no one remembers Zergbong,thats why.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
November 29 2011 12:17 GMT
#3371
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.

He picked Fin because, I don't know, maybe he wants to be called that?
SaSe fan club manager
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 29 2011 12:18 GMT
#3372
Polt and sage played both terribly and forgg played well.

Maybe waiting an opponent who will not fuck up everything would be a good idea before hyping him like that.

Sure he is gonna be one of the best players, but people seem to think he will just win the 5 next gsl using only one hand.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
November 29 2011 12:20 GMT
#3373
On November 29 2011 21:17 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.

He picked Fin because, I don't know, maybe he wants to be called that?


if that were the case we should all call boxer manofoneway and mkp as boxer.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 12:22:33
November 29 2011 12:20 GMT
#3374
I was looking up Fin/ForGG and I have a few questions:
Why are players with no recorded match history seeded at 2150 in TLPD ELO rank? That's higher than all but the very top of the top.
Why does it say Fin joined oGs in March 2009?


On November 29 2011 21:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:17 Choboo wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.

He picked Fin because, I don't know, maybe he wants to be called that?


if that were the case we should all call boxer manofoneway and mkp as boxer.


Well those are sort of special cases. Boxer never competed under manofoneway. That was just his ladder account.
MKP was part of the [arnc] clan which out of homage to the greats, use the tags of BW legends.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51708 Posts
November 29 2011 12:23 GMT
#3375
On November 29 2011 21:20 Gummy wrote:
I was looking up Fin/ForGG and I have a few questions:
Why are players with no recorded match history seeded at 2150 in TLPD ELO rank? That's higher than all but the very top of the top.
Why does it say Fin joined oGs in March 2009?


Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:17 Choboo wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.

He picked Fin because, I don't know, maybe he wants to be called that?


if that were the case we should all call boxer manofoneway and mkp as boxer.


Well those are sort of special cases. Boxer never competed under manofoneway. That was just his ladder account.
MKP was part of the [arnc] clan which out of homage to the greats, use the tags of BW legends.


it is a known fact that TLPD dates are bonkers,its been that way for a long time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
November 29 2011 12:24 GMT
#3376
What! how come I havent read this before!! Awesame read, really sums up how i'm STILL feeling!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
November 29 2011 12:30 GMT
#3377
On November 29 2011 21:18 pPingu wrote:
Polt and sage played both terribly and forgg played well.

Maybe waiting an opponent who will not fuck up everything would be a good idea before hyping him like that.

Sure he is gonna be one of the best players, but people seem to think he will just win the 5 next gsl using only one hand.

Superior players make their opponents look terrible, his management and multitask were just on another level to Sage and Polt. Good players make you fuck up and Forgg is damn good.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 29 2011 12:31 GMT
#3378
Lol I love the people who try and downplay ForGG's success. Hot_Bid had it right in the original article. Broodwar has about a hundred players with the same raw talent as MVP. Sure it's a different game and not all of them would be great if they all transitioned over but plenty will be. Broodwar just has a huge slice of the talent pool when it comes to rts games.
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 29 2011 12:32 GMT
#3379
On November 29 2011 21:30 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:18 pPingu wrote:
Polt and sage played both terribly and forgg played well.

Maybe waiting an opponent who will not fuck up everything would be a good idea before hyping him like that.

Sure he is gonna be one of the best players, but people seem to think he will just win the 5 next gsl using only one hand.

Superior players make their opponents look terrible, his management and multitask were just on another level to Sage and Polt. Good players make you fuck up and Forgg is damn good.


1 banshee at the start of the game should not cause you to fall apart regardless of who is using it.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 29 2011 12:36 GMT
#3380
On November 29 2011 21:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 21:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 Bensio wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 29 2011 21:02 Choboo wrote:
Nothing special about Fin's play IMO. Both Sage and Polt played kind of bad and Fin has been playing SC2 since release iirc so I don't think it's that earth-shattering. Moon > Fin if he starts to play full-time tbh


who the fuck is fin?

ForGG


yeah well people should stop calling him fin,its so much of a loss of identity.


He picked Fin. Should we call NesTea Zergbong?



Someone who had little to no name in BW making a new name for himself in SC2 is different from someone who already had a name and fame in BW suddenly wanting to be someone else. If someday Flash switches to SC2 and wants to be called Sparkles, well fuck that, he's still Flash. I mean, I don't agree with saying that ForGG shouldn't be called Fin, but man, it's never going to stop being weird every time someone does it.
Writer:o
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