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This is my first time trying to translate something. My Korean is mediocre at best, so this may not be 100% accurate. Please correct my mistakes! I also hope I didn't step on the toes of the usual transators and stole something they wanted to do. If I did, I sincerely apologize.
Edit: I had some help and did some corrections, so the translation should be accurate now!
-스타리그에서 처음으로 결승에 오른 소감은.
▶말로 표현할 수 없을 만큼 기쁘다. 스타리그에서 8강부터 팀 동료를 두 명이나 이기고 올라왔기 때문에 더욱 우승하고 싶다. 영민이형이랑 형태형이 나에게 힘을 줄 것이다.
-It’s the first time you are in an OSL final.
▶Words cannot express how happy I am. In the quarterfinals and semifinal I had to defeat teammates, so I really want to win the whole league now. Iris and Much will give me strength(for the final).
-가장 힘든 승부였을 것 같다.
▶경기하면서도 이길 수 있을 것이라는 생각을 할 틈을 주지 않았다. 형태형 스타일이 공격 지향적인데 대회에서 만나보니 무서웠다. 형태형이 정말 방송 적응이 안돼서 패했을 뿐이지 정말 훌륭한 선수라는 생각을 다시금 하게 됐다.
-It looked like a hard series for you.
▶When I was playing, I wasn’t really thinking about if I could win or not. Iris has an aggressive style, and it proved to be quite scary playing him in an official match. Iris has a problem playing in live games, I think that’s the only reason he lost. I think he is a very good player.
-연습은 어떻게 했나.
▶한상봉, 주현준, 서지훈형이 정말 많이 도와줬다. 주영이형은 중립적인 입장에서 형태형과 나 모두를 살펴줬다. 염보성 선수가 많이 도와줬다.
-How did you practise?
▶Kwanro[saM], TheManiaMST and Xellos really helped me a lot. Oversky remained neutral and only observed me and Iris. Sea[Shield] also helped me a lot.
-동시 결승 진출은 쉽지 않은 기록이다.
▶양대 결승 진출이라는 기록보다 양대 우승을 하고 싶다. 그게 더 의미 있을 것 같다.
-It’s not easy to advance to the MSL and OSL finals at the same time.
▶Rather than just advancing in both leauges, I would like to win them both. I believe that will mean more.
-어제 경기를 치르고 또다시 5전3선승제를 치르는 것이 힘들지 않았나.
▶다녀오니까 형태형이 문을 굳게 닫고 연습하고 있었다. 오늘 경기장 출발할 때까지 눈도 한 번 못 마주쳤다. 오면서 차 안에서 이야기를 조금 나눴을 뿐이다. 연습하는 것보다 분위기가 더 힘들었다.
-Like yesterday, you again had to play 5 games to win the series. Was it not very tiring for you?
▶When I was returning, Iris was training with his door closed. Until the games started today, we never saw each other. The only time was, when we talked a bit in the car when we came here. Actually, the atmosphere was a lot harder for me than the practice.
-새벽 5시까지 했다는 소문이 있다.
▶만족할 때까지 연습을 계속하는 편이다. 맵 분석이 일찍 끝나면 잠도 많이 자지만 진영수 선수와의 4강전에서 많이 패해 완성된 전략을 찾기 위해 죽도록 연습했다.
-Rumor has it that you trained until 5 in the morning.
▶I am one to practice until I feel satisfied. If the analysis of a map is finished I would go to bed early, but because I lost so many games against Hwasin in MSL semis, I practiced like my life depended on it in order to find a consummate strategy.
-팀 동료들을 많이 만났다.
▶박영민 선수와의 경기전 인터뷰에서 같은 팀과 만나는 것을 느껴보고 싶다고 이야기했는데 심리적 부담감이나 미안함 등이 매우 컸다. 앞으로는 만나고 싶지 않다.
-You had to face a lot of teammates.
▶ During the interview before the game against Much[gm] I said that I would like to know how it feels to play against teammates, but the psychological pressure and the bad feeling when having to defeat teammates is very hard. I don’t want to play teammates in the future.
-이윤열과 만나게 됐다.
▶자신감으로 충만하다. 이윤열 선수보다 내가 밀리는 것이 없다. 윤열이형도 나를 만만히 볼 수 없을 것이다. 재미있을 것 같다.
-You have to face Nada in the finals now.
▶I am very confident. Nada has nothing on me. I believe he won't be able to take me lightly. It's going to be fun.
-이윤열이 명예도 반납한 채 반드시 복수한다는 인터뷰를 했다.
▶이윤열 선수가 지금 나의 포스에 눌려야 당연하다고 본다. 내가 윤열이형에 비해 부족한 것이 없다.
-Nada will give back his fame, (Nada will disregard everything he has achieved throughout his career) and make sure he has his revenge
▶I believe it's only right for Nada to be intimidated by my force (form). I lack nothing that Nada has.
-이기고 난 뒤에 좋아하는 모습이 보였다.
▶MSL 때나 스타리그나 함께 기뻤다. 눈이 아파서 우는 것처럼 보였을 수도 있다. 눈물을 흘리지 않았다.
-After winning one could see your happiness.
▶I was very happy for both MSL and OSL. Because my eyes hurt, it may have seemed like I cried. But actually, I didn’t shed a tear.
-앞으로 1주일 간격으로 결승을 계속한다.
▶설 연휴가 있으면 집에 가고 싶고, 쉬고 싶은 것이 인지상정인데 이번 같은 경우는 휴식보다 우승컵에 더욱 욕심이 난다. 완벽하게 준비해서 우승할 수 있도록 컨디션을 만들어 오겠다.
-In the next week you will be busy with 2 finals.
▶Usually I’d want to go visit my home and rest on the New Year’s holidays, but this time it’s a special situation and I am eager to win both finals. I will play the finals with perfect preperation.
-본좌 논란에 종지부를 찍었다.
▶이제는 내가 본좌라는 말을 들어도 될 것 같다. 앞으로도 이 자리를 지키겠다.
-One could say, that Savior ist he best Starcraft player at the moment.
▶Now, I think I can be called the best at SC yes. I will defend it in the future as well.
-설 연휴는 반납하는가.
▶아주 잠시 들렸다가 올 계획이다. 하루나 이틀 정도 밖에 되지 않을까 싶다
-When will you be returning from the New Year’s holidays?
▶I only plan to stay a very short time. I don’t want it to be more than 1 or 2 days.
Edit: Thanks for the missing names to SonuvBob.
Edit2: Thanks zepidan for pointing out and correcting mistakes!
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thanks!
nice interview by savior btw 
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Netherlands19135 Posts
Indd nice interview, thanks for the translation!
The man has the craziest stamina I've ever seen. Mentally especially and I hope his health can keep up physically with all the stress and practise.
Glad to see he's confident and shows some signs of not suffering under stress too much. Now he's released of having to play against his teammates I hope he'll find more strength and confidence and support from his team instead of being devided "at home".
Best of luck to you Savior! He's already got so much respect from me with the stamina, resilience and recovery he's shows last 2 weeks.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Thanks for the translation snowbird.
<3 Savior
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Thanks for doing a great job!
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omg it's the Heil Matler sign
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Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
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On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
they way i translated it makes it sound arrogant. i could also have translated it like: "There could be people saying that I am the best now yeah" -- i think that's more fitting actually
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
No he won't.
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On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
Are you kidding ? Savior arrogant? He never says he deserves the title o m g ...
Go Savior !
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On February 16 2007 08:56 puLs.ReADy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN! Are you kidding ? Savior arrogant? He never says he deserves the title o m g ... Go Savior !
it was a misunderstanding due to my bad translation, sorry for that. changed it already. T_T
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As long as he is good, he can be arrogant... but not too much
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Yeah, he has the right to be arrogant right now. He's in both the finals and he's pretty much the most unstoppable player right now in all of Korea. In fact, I think its kind of cool that he is not like 99% of other players, who try to stay neutral and humble-like in their interviews.
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as long as he's this good, he isn't actually arrogant, but self-concious
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nada is gonna suck savior's dick,.
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On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Nada must avenge the 6 million jewish terrans that savior killed.
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United States20661 Posts
I HATE YOU SAVIOR.
NaDa~ you must stop this great evil.
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i doubt nada can win, savior is just too strong.
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can anyone translate the rest of the names and stuff?
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-It looked like a hard series for you.
When I was playing, I wasn’t really thinking about if I could win or not. Because of Iris’ aggressive style, I was kind of scared to meet him in the league. Iris has a problem playing in live games, I think that’s the only reason he lost. I think he is a very good player.
I respect SaviOr for saying this.
He recognize the skills of his opponent. And dont get arrogant about it. Congratulations SaviOr you are indeed a good example of respect and good manners.
"um freely translated.. please correct >_< ; )"
Oh my god.
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nicely done, thanks for the translation
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Savior is too strong for everyone...i don't think nada will beat him.
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As much as i want NaDa to win , he wont be able to beat God
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he won't choke like the other guys. 4th OSL coming because the maps are in his favor! ^_^
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
I want Bisu to win MSL and Savior the OSL. But I still would be happy if savior wins both. ^_^
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you got it the other way around. Savior will rape Bisu in the MSL and NaDa will just come out on top in the OSL.
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On February 16 2007 10:49 Wasabi wrote:
It doesn't make any sense that Savior says Nada is pressured. Nada only has to play one final, he has to play two, and different match ups at that. :S
Thanks for translating.
nada lost the supermatch and has to beat the osl curse (he already has, but still)
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Savior played his heart out today... I've come to respect him SO MUCH after game 5...
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
nada has a what record vs savior?
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nada gonna own savior this time
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thx for translation 
mark my words, Nada will own Savior 3-0 this time
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Canada7170 Posts
"More important than advancing to finals in both leagues, is actually winning both of them. That’s what I really want."
Have to say I'm jumping on the sAviOr bandwagon. Truly amazing player.
I have to say I love the attitude, but I bet some of his responses are just what his publicist wants him to say.
Thanks for the translation!
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On February 16 2007 12:47 Souther wrote:
nada gonna own savior this time
It's not gonna be easy. But to Savior as well;
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On February 16 2007 12:46 oneofthem wrote:
nada has a what record vs savior?
Nada 2 < 8 Savior
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i can sense the tide is turning. savior zvt is no longer that good anymore. he was getting owned by midas, hwasin, iris. whats worse is that savior practices with iris all the time and has lost his touch for zvt. iris isnt even that good, and he claims he has 50% winning ratio against savior during practice games. just like the old saying, the more u practice with noobs, the more noob u become....
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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On February 16 2007 13:10 Souther wrote:
i can sense the tide is turning. savior zvt is no longer that good anymore. he was getting owned by midas, hwasin, iris. whats worse is that savior practices with iris all the time and has lost his touch for zvt. iris isnt even that good, and he claims he has 50% winning ratio against savior during practice games. just like the old saying, the more u practice with noobs, the more noob u become....
You must be joking. Think about the maps.
MSL MAPS
P VS T - 16:15 (51.6 : 48.4)
T VS Z 35:22 (61.4 : 38.6)
Z VS P 14:15 (48.2 : 51.8)
OSL MAPS
P VS T - 13:7 (65 : 35 )
T VS Z 35:22 (58.3 : 41.7)
Z VS P 10:8 (55.5 : 44.5)
Eventhough the maps are rubbish, he could manage to survive until the end.
Remember he was the only zerg on top4 in both league.
Also you don't know Iris at all. Everybody without you agree that Irish is one of the top player. He is just not used to showing his ability in live also pro-gamers don't exercise with their team mates all the time. Every interviews says that top players exercise eachother.
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-After winning one could see your happiness.
▶I was very happy for both MSL and OSL. Because my eyes hurt, it may have seemed like I cried. But actually, I didn’t shed a tear.
that proves it. Savior isn't human! He can't feel psychological pain, only physical pain.
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tbh i was more impressed with iris than savior in that series(last game aside of course, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I WENT TO BED BEFORE BECUASE I WAS TOO TIRED ARR) he played really well and even though i'm a savior fan i wanted iris to win that last game :[
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ya right, i bet he's shitting his pants as we speak knowing he has to face nada regardless of his all time record vs nada.
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On February 16 2007 14:25 Acejei wrote:
MSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (61.4 : 38.6)
OSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (58.3 : 41.7)
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On February 16 2007 14:51 sC.lover wrote:
ya right, i bet he's shitting his pants as we speak knowing he has to face nada regardless of his all time record vs nada.
do you ever stfu?
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On February 16 2007 14:25 Acejei wrote:
MSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (61.4 : 38.6)
OSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (58.3 : 41.7)
Hmm, both are 35:22, but the ratio is different ? I'm lazy to do calculation myself but there's something wrong
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On February 16 2007 14:57 hixhix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 14:25 Acejei wrote:
MSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (61.4 : 38.6)
OSL MAPS
T VS Z 35:22 (58.3 : 41.7)
Hmm, both are 35:22, but the ratio is different ? I'm lazy to do calculation myself but there's something wrong
haha nice, its 61 : 39.
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omg i love you savior. I hope you take both titles. =)
GL VERY MUCH!!!!!!
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On February 16 2007 14:29 HungerForMore wrote:Show nested quote +-After winning one could see your happiness.
▶I was very happy for both MSL and OSL. Because my eyes hurt, it may have seemed like I cried. But actually, I didn’t shed a tear. that proves it. Savior isn't human! He can't feel psychological pain, only physical pain.
Dude he's making that up. He's a little emotional girl at heart and he cried when he won. I'm afraid I cant tell you my sources for this information 
On a more serious note, I think if Nada takes lessons from how Iris played and adds some of his own ingenuity, he has the skills to beat Savior. The latter is still the favorite in my eyes, but I think its entirely possible we could be seeing a four time OSL winner.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 16 2007 14:51 sC.lover wrote:
ya right, i bet he's shitting his pants as we speak knowing he has to face nada regardless of his all time record vs nada. gtfo
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United States20661 Posts
If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan.
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Savior was actually scared of Iris? "kind of scared" haha. That's weak coming from the Maestro
Or more likely he said it out of respect for his teammate =)
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IriS is much MUCH better then what he shows in live games, because he is very very nervous. He is like Canata basically :p
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On February 16 2007 15:58 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
IriS is much MUCH better then what he shows in live games, because he is very very nervous. He is like Canata basically :p
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan.
what if i pity iris very much but i am also a savior fan
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On February 16 2007 15:58 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
IriS is much MUCH better then what he shows in live games, because he is very very nervous. He is like Canata basically :p
except even when nervous like canata, he atleast shows some good results, canata just chokes in 75% of his live games, and the 25% that he plays absolutely stunningly unfortunetly get him nowhere
one thing to note though, almost whenever game went on for more than 10-12 minutes, terrans that played against savior always lost, no matter the advantage they had from the early game, that's just sick
iris looked amazing every match for the first 10 minutes, and looked quite good even after, but savior was just a class above in lategame
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On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan.
First of all. The first thing that SaviOr did after the last match was congrat Iris for such an excellent match.
Second of all. Koreans are humble persons and respect each other. And also does SaviOr.
Third of all. First time I get so shocked by a commentary. You just tried to say SaviOr is a bad person?.
PostData: And if you tried to make fun of such an emotional image. You deserve to be an "anti-fan".
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On February 16 2007 08:46 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Savior is such an arrogant player lol;
"I derserve this title" .. blabla;;
NaDa will crush him like fuck-_- GO TORNADO TERRAN!
My Korean friend said SaviOr is not arrogant, he just seems, because he is very shallow emotionally.
He doesnt smile often and stuff... But once you read his interviews you will notice he gives a lot of credits to his opponent and doesnt bust about his might, only out of honesty.
He often says "I won because I was lucky" and stuff like that.
I hope its right, I like the good guys better =)
I be cheering for NaDa though lol ^^
Id love for SaviOr to win his MSL once again
but OSL is NaDa's :p
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If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan.
Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole.
We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once.
Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too.
It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him".
Just stop it please, it's embarasing.
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NO, terran must dominate forever
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 16 2007 17:27 sC.lover wrote:
NO, terran must dominate forever
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Um.. fuck you all.
Bring back Protoss Domination. You youngins must not remember -_-;;
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On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:Show nested quote +If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing.
Oh, I don't like Iris. I just pity him for being so sad D: I mean, you have to feel sorry for him - training for 12 hours a day for a month and then losing.
About hating sAviOr, I hate him because he's boring to watch, not because he's dominating. When oov was the best, I still liked watching him play, because his style is fun and different, even if it's still macro. Same with NaDa. BoxeR is just fun to watch because he's BoxeR.
sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 16 2007 18:05 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing. Oh, I don't like Iris. I just pity him for being so sad D: I mean, you have to feel sorry for him - training for 12 hours a day for a month and then losing. About hating sAviOr, I hate him because he's boring to watch, not because he's dominating. When oov was the best, I still liked watching him play, because his style is fun and different, even if it's still macro. Same with NaDa. BoxeR is just fun to watch because he's BoxeR. sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun.
how can you still hate his style after todays games ? :O teh OWnage style. and the crazy defiler plague swarm hydralisk lurker defence style. would any other zerg have pulled that off? :O
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United States20661 Posts
On February 16 2007 16:39 [Carlodajin] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. First of all. The first thing that SaviOr did after the last match was congrat Iris for such an excellent match. Second of all. Koreans are humble persons and respect each other. And also does SaviOr. Third of all. First time I get so shocked by a commentary. You just tried to say SaviOr is a bad person?. PostData: And if you tried to make fun of such an emotional image. You deserve to be an "anti-fan".
It was just commiseration for Iris in his sadness. Also criticizing sAviOr fans who laughed at Midas when Midas lost. No malice towards the players themselves.
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United States20661 Posts
On February 16 2007 18:07 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 18:05 Last Romantic wrote:On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing. Oh, I don't like Iris. I just pity him for being so sad D: I mean, you have to feel sorry for him - training for 12 hours a day for a month and then losing. About hating sAviOr, I hate him because he's boring to watch, not because he's dominating. When oov was the best, I still liked watching him play, because his style is fun and different, even if it's still macro. Same with NaDa. BoxeR is just fun to watch because he's BoxeR. sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun. how can you still hate his style after todays games ? :O
Oh, I appreciate the fact that he's trying to diversify. But he's BAD at this one hatch muta stuff, and I'm certain that in game 5 his strange build order set him back and was something that was overcome - it was definitely not a masterful plan that made him win.
The only time a strange low econ build contributed directly to his victory was 9pool and 5pool in that series vs bifrost, IMO. The other times he 9pooled in today and yesterday's series, it didn't really give him much advantage - in every game he would have been better served doing his usual 3-hatch muta to lurker.
The one hatch one base stuff should be left to the likes of YellOw and July.
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On February 16 2007 18:07 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 16:39 [Carlodajin] wrote:On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. First of all. The first thing that SaviOr did after the last match was congrat Iris for such an excellent match. Second of all. Koreans are humble persons and respect each other. And also does SaviOr. Third of all. First time I get so shocked by a commentary. You just tried to say SaviOr is a bad person?. PostData: And if you tried to make fun of such an emotional image. You deserve to be an "anti-fan". It was just commiseration for Iris in his sadness. Also criticizing sAviOr fans who laughed at Midas when Midas lost. No malice towards the players themselves.
I cant believe some people laughed at Midas. Its really disturbing.
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On February 16 2007 18:10 Last Romantic wrote:
The only time a strange low econ build contributed directly to his victory was 9pool and 5pool in that series vs bifrost, IMO. The other times he 9pooled in today and yesterday's series, it didn't really give him much advantage - in every game he would have been better served doing his usual 3-hatch muta to lurker.
The one hatch one base stuff should be left to the likes of YellOw and July.
Definetly not. Iris's timing attacks would have smacked him even harder had he done that. I think with the 2 of them having an idea of how the other plays, Savior knew 3 hatching every game might have costed him dearly. The guy gets props for changing it up.
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Last Romantic, saying "..and you deserve to be a Savior fan" is very bm to Savior's fans obviously not to Savior himself...
"sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun." I have a feeling that by defining yourself as a 'savior-anti' you are depriving yourself of a lot of the fun of watching him play.. If you saw game 5 and thought it was boring I really don't know what to say.
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On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan.
Errmm Allow me to make a few corrections:
In the pic, is not Iris, but in fact, Savior. He crouched down because he was exhausted. This happened after he came out from Iris\' booth. (\"이렇게 힘들 수가\"
변형태에게 인사를 마친 마재윤이 체력이 다했는지 주저앉고 말았다.)
And translation corrections: (They were done very well for a non-native)
▶ Iris and Much really gave me strength.
(Rather, he said \"Iris and Much will give me strength(for the final).\")
▶ Because of Iris’ aggressive style, I was kind of scared to meet him in the league.
(Rather, he said \"Iris has an aggressive style, and it proved to be quite scary playing him in an official match (meaning that not that he was scared to meet him, but that Iris was scary in their match that just finished.)
▶More important than advancing to finals in both leagues, is actually winning both of them. That’s what I really want.
(Rather he said, \"Rather than just advancing to the finals in both leagues, I would like to win them both. I believe that will mean more.\")
▶I am one to practice as long as I feel satisfied. Because the analysis of the maps was finished early, I was able to sleep enough. I already had completed strategies for most maps, because I had practised a lot for the MSL Semis against Hwasin. (not sure about this part…)
(Rather, he said, \" If the analysis of a map is finished I would go to bed early, but because I lost so many games against Hwasin in MSL semis, I practiced like my life depended on it in order to find a consummate strategy.)
▶I am not as pressured as Nada is (?). Also Nada couldn’t face me for a long time. It’s gonna be interesting/fun.
(Rather, he said, \"Nada has nothing on me. I believe he won\'t be able to take me lightly. It\'s going to be fun. )
-Nada said in an interview that he wants take revenge and restore his honor.
▶I think Nada is intimidated by my momentum/force right now. I am not afraid of him. (um freely translated.. please correct >_<
(Rather, the interviewer asked, \"He will give back his fame, (Nada will disregard everything he has achieved throughout his career) and make sure he has his revenge\"
Savior said, \"I believe, it\'s only right for Nada to be pressured by my current force (form). I lack nothing that Nada has.
*This statement sounds arrogant in Korean as well. Nada fans are upset by Savior saying this and in Korean communities and in Nada\'s fan cafe Nada fans are showing their displeasure. However, the general feeling in Korean SC community is after the final game vs Iris in Arkanoid and having made it to 2 finals in the span of 2 days, Savior can say anything he wants and is his right to do so.
▶There will people saying that now yes. I want to defend this spot in the future.
(Rather, he said, \"Now, I think I can be called the best at SC yes. I will defend it in the future as well.
I hope this helps and does not refrain snowbird from doing more translations.
Thanks.
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On February 16 2007 21:30 zepidan wrote:
(Rather, he said, "Nada has nothing on me."
LOL. When I first read the interview I thought Savior was getting soft. Glad to see his abrasive cockiness again, it really makes the OSL finals that much more interesting.
I hope nada and savior beat the living hell out of each other and start a new super-rivalry.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Thanks zepidan, good to see more people useful to the community.
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On February 16 2007 21:30 zepidan wrote:
(Rather, the interviewer asked, \"He will give back his fame, (Nada will disregard everything he has achieved throughout his career) and make sure he has his revenge\"
Savior said, \"I believe, it\'s only right for Nada to be pressured by my current force (form). I lack nothing that Nada has.
*This statement sounds arrogant in Korean as well. Nada fans are upset by Savior saying this and in Korean communities and in Nada\'s fan cafe Nada fans are showing their displeasure. However, the general feeling in Korean SC community is after the final game vs Iris in Arkanoid and having made it to 2 finals in the span of 2 days, Savior can say anything he wants and is his right to do so.
I would totally agree with this. Although it may come across as a little arrogant it is completely true. NaDa does have 3 OSL titles and a pretty little gold mouse to go along with it, but Savior has the well deserved #1 ranking along with an appearance in the 2 league finals. NaDa is the one with everything to prove, not savior. I can't wait!
Savior Fighting!! ~
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On February 16 2007 21:30 zepidan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Errmm Allow me to make a few corrections: In the pic, is not Iris, but in fact, Savior. He crouched down because he was exhausted. This happened after he came out from Iris\' booth. (\"이렇게 힘들 수가\" 변형태에게 인사를 마친 마재윤이 체력이 다했는지 주저앉고 말았다.)
I cant believe this goes far better than I expected. This is great for SaviOr.
The truth about the image and the interview has come to light. I feel really good right now.
I still want NaDa to win though. NaDa must win for the 4 Badges Honor!!!.
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Great games to watch. What a comeback from Savior in the last game.
Will be interesting to watch nada/savior.
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This crap about Savior being arrogant. Its become a real cliche but where's the evidence? He tried to shake hands with Iris and Iris pushed him away. Nada pointing to his badges was much more arrogant than anything Savior's done.
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On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:Show nested quote +If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing.
There's a great post. Down with emo-terrans! Why not a zerg for once?
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On February 16 2007 18:05 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing. Oh, I don't like Iris. I just pity him for being so sad D: I mean, you have to feel sorry for him - training for 12 hours a day for a month and then losing. About hating sAviOr, I hate him because he's boring to watch, not because he's dominating. When oov was the best, I still liked watching him play, because his style is fun and different, even if it's still macro. Same with NaDa. BoxeR is just fun to watch because he's BoxeR. sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun.
Tell me game 5 vs Iris wasn't fun.
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On February 16 2007 18:10 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 18:07 alffla wrote:On February 16 2007 18:05 Last Romantic wrote:On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing. Oh, I don't like Iris. I just pity him for being so sad D: I mean, you have to feel sorry for him - training for 12 hours a day for a month and then losing. About hating sAviOr, I hate him because he's boring to watch, not because he's dominating. When oov was the best, I still liked watching him play, because his style is fun and different, even if it's still macro. Same with NaDa. BoxeR is just fun to watch because he's BoxeR. sAviOr antis don't hate him because he's good - we respect his skill. We don't like his style though. It wins, but it's not fun. how can you still hate his style after todays games ? :O Oh, I appreciate the fact that he's trying to diversify. But he's BAD at this one hatch muta stuff, and I'm certain that in game 5 his strange build order set him back and was something that was overcome - it was definitely not a masterful plan that made him win. The only time a strange low econ build contributed directly to his victory was 9pool and 5pool in that series vs bifrost, IMO. The other times he 9pooled in today and yesterday's series, it didn't really give him much advantage - in every game he would have been better served doing his usual 3-hatch muta to lurker. The one hatch one base stuff should be left to the likes of YellOw and July.
Don't you think that it's a bit strange that you say that you hate savior because of his boring style, and yet once he tries something new you say that he shouldn't and stick to his old style?!
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On February 16 2007 21:30 zepidan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 15:46 Last Romantic wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Errmm Allow me to make a few corrections: In the pic, is not Iris, but in fact, Savior. He crouched down because he was exhausted. This happened after he came out from Iris\' booth. (\"이렇게 힘들 수가\" 변형태에게 인사를 마친 마재윤이 체력이 다했는지 주저앉고 말았다.) And translation corrections: (They were done very well for a non-native) ▶ Iris and Much really gave me strength. (Rather, he said \"Iris and Much will give me strength(for the final).\") ▶ Because of Iris’ aggressive style, I was kind of scared to meet him in the league. (Rather, he said \"Iris has an aggressive style, and it proved to be quite scary playing him in an official match (meaning that not that he was scared to meet him, but that Iris was scary in their match that just finished.) ▶More important than advancing to finals in both leagues, is actually winning both of them. That’s what I really want. (Rather he said, \"Rather than just advancing to the finals in both leagues, I would like to win them both. I believe that will mean more.\") ▶I am one to practice as long as I feel satisfied. Because the analysis of the maps was finished early, I was able to sleep enough. I already had completed strategies for most maps, because I had practised a lot for the MSL Semis against Hwasin. (not sure about this part…) (Rather, he said, \" If the analysis of a map is finished I would go to bed early, but because I lost so many games against Hwasin in MSL semis, I practiced like my life depended on it in order to find a consummate strategy.) ▶I am not as pressured as Nada is (?). Also Nada couldn’t face me for a long time. It’s gonna be interesting/fun. (Rather, he said, \"Nada has nothing on me. I believe he won\'t be able to take me lightly. It\'s going to be fun. ) -Nada said in an interview that he wants take revenge and restore his honor. ▶I think Nada is intimidated by my momentum/force right now. I am not afraid of him. (um freely translated.. please correct >_< (Rather, the interviewer asked, \"He will give back his fame, (Nada will disregard everything he has achieved throughout his career) and make sure he has his revenge\" Savior said, \"I believe, it\'s only right for Nada to be pressured by my current force (form). I lack nothing that Nada has. *This statement sounds arrogant in Korean as well. Nada fans are upset by Savior saying this and in Korean communities and in Nada\'s fan cafe Nada fans are showing their displeasure. However, the general feeling in Korean SC community is after the final game vs Iris in Arkanoid and having made it to 2 finals in the span of 2 days, Savior can say anything he wants and is his right to do so. ▶There will people saying that now yes. I want to defend this spot in the future. (Rather, he said, \"Now, I think I can be called the best at SC yes. I will defend it in the future as well. I hope this helps and does not refrain snowbird from doing more translations. Thanks.
Thanks a lot for making the effort to correct my mistakes. This will help me to improve and hopefully I'll be able to do a better job in the future~. Translating from Korean is not easy if you're not native :[
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Osaka27149 Posts
Snowbird dont worry about it, i think it is great you attempted this, and you did a great job. One of the great parts of TL, to be honest, is tha ability to improve language. I know several people who have made great advances in their English from participating in this forum, so it should work the same way with other languages too. Keep up your studies!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
▶I think Nada is intimidated by my momentum/force right now. I am not afraid of him. (um freely translated.. please correct >_<
(Rather, the interviewer asked, "He will give back his fame, (Nada will disregard everything he has achieved throughout his career) and make sure he has his revenge"
Savior said, "I believe, it's only right for Nada to be pressured by my current force (form). I lack nothing that Nada has.
*This statement sounds arrogant in Korean as well. Nada fans are upset by Savior saying this and in Korean communities and in Nada's fan cafe Nada fans are showing their displeasure. However, the general feeling in Korean SC community is after the final game vs Iris in Arkanoid and having made it to 2 finals in the span of 2 days, Savior can say anything he wants and is his right to do so.
WOOHOO SAVIOR FIGHTING!!
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United States20661 Posts
On February 17 2007 02:19 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2007 17:25 joeki wrote:If you have no pity for Iris, you are a cold heartless person and deserve to be a sAviOr fan. Jesus christ. Go back to the the emo-hole. We already have hundreds of terran icons. It's nice to have a zerg finally dominating the whole stage for once. Iris played great, but seriously, there are too many boring mediocre emo-terrans already (ie iris, midas, goodfriend). ZvT is so much more interesting than TvT. It's even more interesting to have a zerg owning up terrans on maps where terrans clearly have an advantage too. It really feels like some of the extremly regular posters think they have to disagree with the mainstream just because they want to feel special. "Ok now savior is best and most popular, I have to cheers for anyone but him". Just stop it please, it's embarasing. There's a great post. Down with emo-terrans! Why not a zerg for once?
his name's YellOw... T-T god has abandoned me. T-T today I was not hongjinho... today I was not storm zerg... today... I was just a zerg.... ahh.... zerg....
sometimes I want to be a fighter too T-T
Stupid zerg!
that's all I have to say... always be happy
etc etc. I love him anyways.
Why does sAviOr have to trashtalk? Maybe it's just because I am Asian so I'm used to having fairly universal humility and niceness and all that. I mean, I LIKE when NaDa is like "MuMyung is a formidable opponent, I must prepare heavily!" but sAviOr's "NaDa's got nothing on me, I will stomp his face" approach is really offputting and annoying.
I hope NaDa stomps sAviOr's face.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
just lay off of it. nada trashtalks more than savior anyway with his little stunts.
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oooo thats why he had 2 semis lol
was wondering what was happening
nice interview, hopefully he can grab both titles.
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snowbird
Thanks for using the Progamer's ID instead of their korean names. It made it easier to follow.
I feel the finals will be a repeat of the OSL with Casy vs Chojja final. Chojja played well going through Terrans, but in the end, there is only so much a Zerg can do against Terran backed by imbalance maps.
I'm hoping Savior will pull off another 'savior'. On the brightside, MSL is as good as won.
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