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N.geNuity
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Mistakes
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Shock710
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On May 27 2013 12:15 Mistakes wrote: No new posts on Soulkey's fanclub page in a day and he's in the GSL finals vs Innovation? Something must be wrong! How is he not getting more love?? i think im partly to blame, its not as pretty as the other fanclubs and i've been really busy T_T sry | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
GSL FINALS HYPE Dont let the Game of the Week section for this week of PL fool you the Innovation Soulkey match write up i think is quite a misrepresentation of the actual game AND THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD BE HYPED FOR SOULKEY! While whirlwind is certainly a strong Zerg map in the sense that rush distances are long, so the zerg (in the defense) will have an advantage, due to closer rallying. Also by the same line of thinking, the overall strength of a timing/allin/rush would be a bit weaker (ignoring meta stuff). Which i think actually either favours innovation or is pretty such 50/50, (i definitely wouldnt say in this particular match up it favours Zerg (any zerg) simply because Innovation is considered to be his strongest in long macro games. So if allin's are weaker (just in "power" of timing/units) this should favour innovation as its more likely to enter the mid-late game. Where Terran has built up their economy, to be able to afford to utilize drop play to its fullest. Where u have enough of a standing army backed by a strong econ to not leave ur standing army crippled. Also because of the way WW expos work in cross positions, where the expos become further away from each other and relatively closer to the terran expos, makes drop play extremely powerful. Though we dont actually see this really take place in the mid game, only when Innovation sniped the 4th of Soulkey did they come into play. (excellent choice to turn into drops, but more on that later) So i really do think this game was extremely close(rather than innovation , its starts off pretty normally, (some mistakes by soulkey with the oviespeed cancel and restart) but overall just very good executed build orders. (soulkey see the 3rd of innvo being taken and instantly stops unit production, go macro-spire, baneling nest, 2-2 and banespeed and droning up to ~80) Also Soulkey utilized his lings really well in the early game, basically dont taking any damage from the hellion, keeping innovation wary of counter attacks and runbys and all that good Soulkey jazz does lose a bunch of lings due to innovations excellent game sense. Soulkey plays it extremely well, using all this to stay even with innovation (strong econ, delay/stopping early pressure) Once innovations 2-2 is half way done he starts up the aggression(arriving just when 2-2 is about done), pressuring the 4th. However soulkey takes advantage of the defensive position above the ramp. (the ovie speed upgrade helps greatly here in keeping up with the mutas to snipe mines) Innovation decides to settle for a light contain sending a few units up the ramp to see what can be done. Soulkey makes an awesome decision here, instead of gathering everything up at the 4th to attempt to push down the ramp he splits his rallying units into two groups 1. reinforcing the 4th and 2. sending a group to counter attack. The goal of the counter attack was probably to stutter the rallying units of innovation, soulkey with a closer rally point uses the wave of units after the counter attack group to break the contain. With no reinforcements and a new surge of units soulkey crushs the contain. Putting innovation on the back foot with nothing achieved. This part already shows Soulkeys excellent understanding of the match up; when to tech, when to drone, at what times to counter attack and why. This allows him to defend innovations 2-2 timing with easy. Soulkey's hive tech finishes and he decides to use a tactic, he splits off a group of lings to morph into banes near the 4th of innovation and moves his main muta-bling-ling force towards the innovations 3rd. Innovation seeing this moves to the 3rd ready to defend. Now defending this correctly would require innovation to have split a small portion of units to the 4th and keep the bulk at the 3rd. However without knowledge of this coming and soulkeys true intentions, innovation gets pulled left and right, first to defend the 3rd, seeing the banelings rolling in at the 4th and the mutas retreating pulls innovation to the right, soulkey instantly doubles back and runs down the 3rd of innovation while he's out of position. Taking out the scvs and CC thought at the cost of his banes/lings. Soulkey probably feels its worth the trade, because his mutas escape relatively unscathed, his ultra tech, adrenal glands, 3-3, a 5th and 6th hatch are on the way. Innovation knowing that soulkey has lost a large portion of his ground force begins to attack again, while retaking his 3rd. However due to Soulkeys constant larvae injects is already has a decent sized bling ling force, ready to defend. Soulkey defends the attack pretty much like before, using the position above the ramp. However innovation sends a small force to soulkeys 3rd sadly the ultra den is also there, heres where soulkeys makes a blunder he sends his group of lings and baneling to deal with the small force, but right at that moment innovation also push up the ramp at the 4th, making soulkey bring back all the bling/ling (under 1 control group) to defend, with ALL the lings (should have left a small amount to finish the clean up) running to the 4th the innovations small force takes out the ultra den! Soulkey still manages to clean up everything at the 4th and 3rd in the end, but he now has a pretty large bank of gas which should have been ultras, (also important to note Soulkey has a ton of larva through out the whole game) although he could use his gas on more banes, but when the Terran reaches 3-3 you really need ultras to deal with them banelings just dont cut it alone at this point. (30~ larva 1.2k minerals and 700 gas if only that ultra den was still up) Innovation still hasnt taken this 5th base his main and nat are mined out. He goes of another two pronged attack, Soulkey manages to crush the larger force at his 3rd but a small squad of mmm snipe the 4th (note soulkey hasnt been able to transfer and establish his 5th and 6th bases yet, with drone transfer routes being in the two paths innovation is attacking down and STILL no ultra den remade) At this point soulkey is in a lot of trouble, unable to use his gas on ultras he puts them into 7mutas and +3 airattack (definitely what u dont want to be making when trying to deal with 3-3 mmmm, he's muta pack was already big enough he didnt really need those 7 mutas) Soulkey is dead at this point, his 5th and 6th not mining (just moved drones across) 4th down, main and nat mined out (or near) no ultra tech, and GG's with 800gas in the bank when innovation pushes a final time (note he's nearly mined out and theres no CC started) Overall even tho innovation won, i was Soulkey i would be pretty content with how i played and going into the GSL finals. Soulkey played absolutely amazingly, the game was extremely close and if not for a few small things such as ultra den in main, or creep spread further out at the 4th as it was pushed back during the 2-2 timing (he would have spotted the small force and killed it before it sniped the hatch) Or even leaving a few lings and banelings to kill that group of mm at the 3rd. He would have been in a fantastic position, ultras pushing innovation back just for a bit, to allow drones to the 5th and 6th, he would be a 6 base zerg with 12 available gases! There was no instant god-like macro switch turned on, it was innovation standard macro and SOULKEY was knocking it back like a BOSS :D SOULKEY you are amazingly, <3 innovation ought to be scared of you! This finals is gonna be amazing SOULKEY HWAITING!!! | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On May 30 2013 16:34 Shock710 wrote: i think im partly to blame, its not as pretty as the other fanclubs and i've been really busy T_T sry Haha. I still think it's a pretty page! =P The pictures of Soulkey's face make up for the other parts possibly being less-pretty. XD I loved reading the predictions set by the GSL casters in the recent interview about the finals. I copied them below: + Show Spoiler + Caster Predictions GSL Director Mr. Chae: Soulkey 4 - 3 Innovation I expect a very close duel. Innovation and Soulkey are the very best players at both sides of the TvZ match-up. I predict a 4:3 score, with Soulkey winning the championship. Bogus is very good at TvZ macro games but I don't feel that his widow mine use is perfect just yet. On the other hand, I don't see any weaknesses in Soulkey's ZvT play. With Innovation's series planning and macro play going up against Soulkey's defense, I predict a tight series that goes all seven games. Ahn "Engine" Joon Young: Soulkey 4 - 2 Innovation The two players play different races, but their play styles are not dissimilar. They detach small forces to harm the enemy's economy and use their resource advantage to overpower their opponents. If there is a difference, Soulkey shows tight defense first before going for one, concentrated attack, while Innovation tries to win with constant reinforcement and production of forces. I predict that they'll be somewhat passive in the early game, avoiding big fights while focusing on harassment. Since Innovation's main weapon is constant trading, I think the damage taken from harassment will hurt him more. I predict a 4 : 2 advantage or so in Soulkey's favor. Hwang "Gisado" Young Jae: Innovation 4 - 2 Soulkey Personally I think this is a clash between the best ZvT and TvZ players, and I'm excited for very high level games. The critical point will be the game where Soulkey decides to bring a strong all-in type strategy. If it succeeds, then Soulkey will take the initiative and will be able to focus even more on standard play in the following game. However, since Innovation has played well on maps where Terran is disadvantaged, and because there are many maps that are good for the large scale macro games that Innovation prefers, I predict that he will take a 4 - 2 victory. Park Dae Man: Soulkey 4 - 2 Innovation These two players are the top players at their races, and they've already shown very close matches when they've gone head to head, so I'm very excited for this final. There's going to be a lot of big baneling and mine hits in the game, so both players need to stay calm as they play. From an viewers perspective, I think there will be a lot of really exciting, edge of your seat games. The standard scenario will have Innovation being the spear, going up against Soulkey as the shield. The thing to look out for will be which map Soulkey wants to use a special strategy. I think Soulkey will play a little better in a big game on the big stage, so I predict a 4 - 2 victory for him. In addition, I'd like to point these quotes out: + Show Spoiler + Q: What are Soulkey's strengths and weaknesses? A: I can't see a clear weakness. Rather than try to exploit my opponent's weaknesses, I want to approach the game looking to take advantage of my strengths. ... Q: What do you think of Soulkey? A: He is the best Zerg player right now, and if I want to beat him I have to work even harder. Maybe a little less confident than previous matches? Granted going into the finals is a big deal, so there's a lot of stress and pressure on Innovation. Also, CatZ tweeted earlier that he wanted to take bets: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Uoe6iDj.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yx6olbe.png) EDIT: Also a video interview that would be awesome if it was put in the OP, interview. EDIT2: Video didn't work. Here's the link: http://www.gamespot.com/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/videos/brood-war-pro-neog_soulkey-shares-his-thoughts-on-starcraft-ii-6381795/ | ||
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Jmanthedragonguy
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Shellshock
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Keeemy
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packrat386
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Misacampo
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Midday
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yepenaxa
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yepenaxa
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On June 01 2013 16:31 Misacampo wrote: What does the neo.g mean? NEO = means new, from latin G = means Great SOULKEY = means the key to the soul | ||
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Misacampo
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On June 01 2013 16:36 yepenaxa wrote: NEO = means new, from latin G = means Great SOULKEY = means the key to the soul I wasn't going for the literal meaning lol It looks like some kind of clan tag but he's on woongjin stars right :/ | ||
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
On June 01 2013 16:37 Misacampo wrote: I wasn't going for the literal meaning lol It looks like some kind of clan tag but he's on woongjin stars right :/ there are clans outside of players actual teams. i.e many top players are part of different clans as well as their actual sponsored team. | ||
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Misacampo
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On June 01 2013 16:39 joon wrote: there are clans outside of players actual teams. i.e many top players are part of different clans as well as their actual sponsored team. So neo.g is a clan that he's in apart from woongjin? | ||
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Khai
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