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WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
November 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#12401
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.

Or EG ruins his career, like they do of any player wich joins EG.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
November 22 2012 22:20 GMT
#12402
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Martyrc
Profile Joined May 2012
217 Posts
November 22 2012 22:28 GMT
#12403
I fear for people like meggiroth and The_Darkness who have nothing better to do with their lives than go on some ¨fan club¨, to get angry at a 19 year old player they have probably never met,adn scream doom and Darkness whenever anything happens. I guess some people just weren't loved enough by their mother....
¨First in, last out.¨
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
November 22 2012 22:34 GMT
#12404
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

Not many jobs require even slightly more work than playing sc2 at his level, regardless of how much he says he practices.
nty
AbideWithMe
Profile Joined October 2012
207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 22:41:44
November 22 2012 22:40 GMT
#12405
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.
""I abused a child today" -Stephano" - nmetasch
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 22:44:52
November 22 2012 22:44 GMT
#12406
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?
AbideWithMe
Profile Joined October 2012
207 Posts
November 22 2012 22:50 GMT
#12407
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.
""I abused a child today" -Stephano" - nmetasch
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 22:59:14
November 22 2012 22:56 GMT
#12408
On November 23 2012 07:50 AbideWithMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.

I'm tired, sorry for being a dick. But I think you need to realize that people are motivated by plenty other factors than money. Also, France is not USA. Also, try to be less judgmental about how people choose to live their life.
AbideWithMe
Profile Joined October 2012
207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 23:11:45
November 22 2012 23:10 GMT
#12409
On November 23 2012 07:56 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:50 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.

I'm tired, sorry for being a dick. But I think you need to realize that people are motivated by plenty other factors than money. Also, France is not USA. Also, try to be less judgmental about how people choose to live their life.

That's generally true but weren't a lot of Stephano's decisions directly influenced by the amount of cash on the line (for example no participation in GSL) and hasn't he stated himself numerous times to be just in for the money?

From a financial aspect Stephano has achieved a magnificient amount relatively to for example the huge amount of korean B teamers who wouldn't even be able to make a living if their teams weren't feeding them. But further delaying his studies is (at least in the field he has shown interest for - medicine) actually hurting his finances. Medicine takes ages to study and every year of being a chief physician earns you big time money for basically the rest of your life.
If he however intends to study social work and education he should stay a progamer for a life time because the expected earnings are minuscule in comparison to what he is earning now.
""I abused a child today" -Stephano" - nmetasch
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
November 22 2012 23:11 GMT
#12410
On November 23 2012 07:56 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:50 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.

I'm tired, sorry for being a dick. But I think you need to realize that people are motivated by plenty other factors than money. Also, France is not USA. Also, try to be less judgmental about how people choose to live their life.


obviously you're tired because he isn't saying he's playing sc2 for the money factor and at this point is likely playing sc2 because he enjoys playing it
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
November 22 2012 23:59 GMT
#12411
He is not missing money by playing sc2. With his salary alone he should make 80000 plus. Combined with tournament winnings it`s likely to become much more, even if he isn`t as dominant as he used to be. Btw, I think that his worse results are not only because his play is less sharp, but also his opponents may feel less intimidated and thus are less prone to making errors.
iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
November 23 2012 00:34 GMT
#12412
On November 23 2012 08:10 AbideWithMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:56 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:50 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.

I'm tired, sorry for being a dick. But I think you need to realize that people are motivated by plenty other factors than money. Also, France is not USA. Also, try to be less judgmental about how people choose to live their life.

That's generally true but weren't a lot of Stephano's decisions directly influenced by the amount of cash on the line (for example no participation in GSL) and hasn't he stated himself numerous times to be just in for the money?

From a financial aspect Stephano has achieved a magnificient amount relatively to for example the huge amount of korean B teamers who wouldn't even be able to make a living if their teams weren't feeding them. But further delaying his studies is (at least in the field he has shown interest for - medicine) actually hurting his finances. Medicine takes ages to study and every year of being a chief physician earns you big time money for basically the rest of your life.
If he however intends to study social work and education he should stay a progamer for a life time because the expected earnings are minuscule in comparison to what he is earning now.

You need to move away from your assumption that the medical field is a financially superior one. We're talking France here, and like very large parts of Europe the health care system is largely driven and funded by the government, hence doctors are not paid by private parties. I'm not in any away claiming that being educated in medicine yields bad funds, because it doesn't, but this is not the US. Doctors are not the highest paid workers in society, and even those who study for years end up making a mediocre pay.

If Stephano is in a slump or losing interest is hard to say, let's just hope he somehow get's back to the top soon
(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ OW YEAH!!
Razerg10
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4 Posts
November 23 2012 01:32 GMT
#12413
Sign me up, Stephano is the best
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
November 23 2012 01:49 GMT
#12414
I wonder how many times in this fanclub it says the word "cursed"
Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
November 23 2012 04:22 GMT
#12415
On November 23 2012 07:34 DanLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

Not many jobs require even slightly more work than playing sc2 at his level, regardless of how much he says he practices.


What are you talking about? He doesn't practice any where near 40 hours a week. Any job in the professional sector where you make six figures to start would require you to work 50-70 hours a week, minimum. If he wants to be a part time UPS delivery man he can put in 20 hours a week and be done with it. If he wants to be a nurse, or whatever, he need to put in presumably 40 hours a week, which is way more than he currently does.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
November 23 2012 04:33 GMT
#12416
On November 23 2012 08:10 AbideWithMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:56 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:50 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:44 m0ck wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:40 AbideWithMe wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

In normal jobs you can actually afford to be mediocre. Something you really can't as an SC2 Progamer.

Stephano obviously still plays SCII because he enjoys it or has nothing better to do in his life. He can't be serious if he still does it for the money.
Stephano said he wanted to study medicine. If he really wanted he would have started by now as he has gained more than enough money to pay for the education. And from a financial perspective he is actually missing out on money for delaying his studies.
With serious work ethic you can be a chief physician in your early 40s which earns you more than half a million a year. And this is a safe job oppposed to progaming and you actually have time to enjoy your luxury instead of living in a flat with 5 to 10 other sweaty guys who sit in front of their pc for the whole day.

May I call you Master Judge?

I don't even know who that is I'm just stating that for the given reasons Stephano is most likely still enjoying SCII quite a bit which should actually be nice for most of his fans.

I'm tired, sorry for being a dick. But I think you need to realize that people are motivated by plenty other factors than money. Also, France is not USA. Also, try to be less judgmental about how people choose to live their life.

That's generally true but weren't a lot of Stephano's decisions directly influenced by the amount of cash on the line (for example no participation in GSL) and hasn't he stated himself numerous times to be just in for the money?

From a financial aspect Stephano has achieved a magnificient amount relatively to for example the huge amount of korean B teamers who wouldn't even be able to make a living if their teams weren't feeding them. But further delaying his studies is (at least in the field he has shown interest for - medicine) actually hurting his finances. Medicine takes ages to study and every year of being a chief physician earns you big time money for basically the rest of your life.
If he however intends to study social work and education he should stay a progamer for a life time because the expected earnings are minuscule in comparison to what he is earning now.


Stephano wants to be a nurse, so he's earning at present way more than he can realistically ever hope to make (even if you took into account inflation).So I agree that he should stick with it. Even if he wanted to become a doctor, in the US at least, the best you can hope to make as a general practioner is 120K-200K. If you're a specialist you can expect a 5-7 year residency after 4 years of medical school (with medical school costs being between 40-60K, including living expenses); after all of that you clear maybe 250K-350K at best. If you have your own practice and are very successful then you can clear maybe $1,000,000 a year. But the number of doctors clearing that much (or around that much) is very, very small. He's much better off, even if he wanted to be a doctor, simply focusing on SCII until he's clearly no longer that good at it and trying to maximize his earnings now. Assuming Stephano wanted to be a doctor, he would have to endure, as a resident, 60-80 hour weeks for however long his program was -- somewhere between 4 and 7 years depending on the specialty. Unless you have a burning desire to help people, becoming a doctor is not worth the time and effort. If you're really smart you can earn way more money working at a large law firm or in finance.
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helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
November 23 2012 05:37 GMT
#12417
It seems some people have a hard time wrapping their heads around the concept of the US system not being universal. He's french, why would he study and practice medicine in the US?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
November 23 2012 05:43 GMT
#12418
EG nurse
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
November 23 2012 06:06 GMT
#12419
On November 23 2012 13:22 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:34 DanLee wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:20 The_Darkness wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:01 Dingodile wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:43 RoranRock wrote:
2 possibilities :
-stephano is too tired by travels and jetlags so he couldn't play at his best level, so he'll not do well at IPL5 next week

-stephano is in a bad shap and he will roll over the koreans within few months but no at IPL5

anyway, i don't expect better than top 32-16 at IPL5 for Stephano

OR he sleep well tonight and crush every players tomorow after being seeded in the bracket with a lot of luck !

Possible No3: Sc2 is pretty boring, because of it he has no motivation to train.

I noticed that since he went to korea (around one week before he quitted millenium). All his following tournaments games looked very spiritless, (Lone Star Clash 2 and WCS EU, too). Apparently good enough against foreign and some korean player.


you may be right, but if he's bored by SC2 I fear for him when he starts working a more typical job, which will likely be vastly less interesting and require vastly more work; it will also pay him vastly less.

Not many jobs require even slightly more work than playing sc2 at his level, regardless of how much he says he practices.


What are you talking about? He doesn't practice any where near 40 hours a week. Any job in the professional sector where you make six figures to start would require you to work 50-70 hours a week, minimum. If he wants to be a part time UPS delivery man he can put in 20 hours a week and be done with it. If he wants to be a nurse, or whatever, he need to put in presumably 40 hours a week, which is way more than he currently does.

lol silly goose, next time read the part that say "regardless of how much he says he practices." Also you can't just sink a bunch of time into something and call it hard work. Being a progamer is way more difficult than most anything else you could do.
nty
adhoul
Profile Joined March 2012
36 Posts
November 23 2012 09:18 GMT
#12420
On November 23 2012 14:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
EG nurse


omfg that was epic and hilarious ! EG NURSE FTW ! ! ! HAHAHA

P.S : Keep it up Steph, you're the best just get your act together
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