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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
November 17 2012 19:19 GMT
#12321
You guys act like HerO won versus Stephano. Stephano is 3-2 versus HerO. He 2-0 in the bo3 and 3-0 in the bo5.
It is too bad he lost a ZvZ but it is a shame he is out this way.
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
November 17 2012 23:57 GMT
#12322
If he would have a tournament to win, it was this, so much money at the end of the day...
but he made 9 corruptors to counter hallucinate colossus
i felt really disapointed and sad when he lost this match :'(((
i don't know if stephano read his fan club but if he feel ashamed i would like to say that his fan will support him until he stop training hard

les joueurs français de sc2 sont fier de toi stephano !

now i keep on hope that he will do great things in sweden and at Las Vegas !
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
November 18 2012 02:07 GMT
#12323
this is the worst format ever. In real sports no fan would accept something this bad.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
November 18 2012 10:37 GMT
#12324
yep, the format was somewhat random
as i said before, Stephano lost to lack of luck. Because this format indeed had a lot of luck influence. whatevs.
Drone is a way of living
Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
November 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#12325
Too bad he didn't do so well this weekend Now win Dreamhack Winter for the fans Ilyes!
Stephano Grubby!
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 18 2012 14:04 GMT
#12326
On November 18 2012 04:19 Thurken wrote:
You guys act like HerO won versus Stephano. Stephano is 3-2 versus HerO. He 2-0 in the bo3 and 3-0 in the bo5.
It is too bad he lost a ZvZ but it is a shame he is out this way.


just no, hero advanced not stephano. If stephano had won versus hero he would'nt have been eliminated in pool play. It's sad but stephano lost, theres nothing else to add.
rly ?
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
November 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#12327
I hope he does well in the next tournaments. When you are a true fan, you get almost as sad as the one you are fan of when he loses.

But well Stephano is still an evil bonjwa lusting for money ! He lost but he got a ton of money, no need to get depressed, he is the busiest progamer out there, im sure he will win another tournament soon.

At least if he watches the vod s of this event !
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
November 18 2012 15:19 GMT
#12328
On another note im sure hes hangover or drunk right now, nothing better than alcohol to forget a loss !
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
November 18 2012 17:35 GMT
#12329
Even though I'm not a Stephano fan I'm kinda disappointed and sad that he lost like that. Maybe because I'm french, or maybe because I played against him and knows that he is worth much more than this and could have won this tourney, I don't know but still -;-.
WriterMaru
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 01:46:54
November 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#12330
So many sad faces in here, no worry a bright new dawn will come!

Talking about good things have my personal little track or the player winning most prize moeny/most successful player of 2012 become more interesting then ever. It will all be decided now in the coming few weeks, sense the results of WCS has made it stupid close between the top 3!

1: Parting 130,599$
2: Stephano 130495$
3: DRG 130348$


Almost a full year of brutal competition and top 3 end up within 250$!? ^.^

Then there is some wildcards for the title to.

4: MC 119000$. If he takes IEM Singapore he could still be the one coming out on top.
5: Rain 86000$. Crazy good but as far as I know he will not attend any of the final major tournaments in 2012.
8: Creator 75000$. Unlikely but not impossible, he is in stupid form and will have to possibility to win both GSL and IPL.


I still think Stephano will take it, looking at his average performance and the stupid amount of tournaments he is attending the title should still be his. Despite a soso WCS final.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
November 19 2012 01:33 GMT
#12331
On November 19 2012 00:19 Acertos wrote:
On another note im sure hes hangover or drunk right now, nothing better than alcohol to forget a loss !


Stephano would do that if won too!
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
November 19 2012 11:56 GMT
#12332
Honestly after seeing that kind of performance, I'm starting to doubt he will ever win a major event. And no. Backwater tournaments like LSC do not qualify. He won LSC more by luck than performance because he would have gotten stomped by violet if they met, and also he struggled too much against Bomber. His overall play was horribly bad during WCS.
I tried to compare his recent games,tournaments and even ladder play to how he played before and the difference is staggering.
I still like him and all but I won't be hoping for a DH first place or IPL top 5-6 because that just won't happen.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
November 19 2012 14:40 GMT
#12333
On November 19 2012 20:56 Meggiroth wrote:
Honestly after seeing that kind of performance, I'm starting to doubt he will ever win a major event. And no. Backwater tournaments like LSC do not qualify. He won LSC more by luck than performance because he would have gotten stomped by violet if they met, and also he struggled too much against Bomber. His overall play was horribly bad during WCS.
I tried to compare his recent games,tournaments and even ladder play to how he played before and the difference is staggering.
I still like him and all but I won't be hoping for a DH first place or IPL top 5-6 because that just won't happen.


Trust me, he will surprise you and finish either 2nd or 1st at DH and he will finish high at IPL5 (not saying first since last IPL's player field was just too good)
Stephano Grubby!
Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
November 19 2012 14:40 GMT
#12334
I know Stephano underperformed at WCS, but he has surprised people more than once so I think he is going to win DH winter
Stephano Grubby!
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
November 19 2012 15:27 GMT
#12335
On November 19 2012 20:56 Meggiroth wrote:
Honestly after seeing that kind of performance, I'm starting to doubt he will ever win a major event. And no. Backwater tournaments like LSC do not qualify. He won LSC more by luck than performance because he would have gotten stomped by violet if they met, and also he struggled too much against Bomber. His overall play was horribly bad during WCS.
I tried to compare his recent games,tournaments and even ladder play to how he played before and the difference is staggering.
I still like him and all but I won't be hoping for a DH first place or IPL top 5-6 because that just won't happen.


I hate to be negative (although I have been fairly negative lately) but I kind of agree. He played a close set with Bomber, who has been getting destroyed lately by top zergs. After watching LIfe, Leenock and Hyun play v t, it's hard to believe Stephano didn't stomp bomber into the ground. Criticisms like this only make sense when you assume Stephano is a top 3 zerg, a view I had been pushing for quite some time, but he hasn't been looking like one lately. The quality of his play does seem to have slipped a bit even if he generally continues to win. I attribute this partly to an incredibly difficult travel schedule, which must make training very difficult because he's always on the go. But where there is a will there's a way and if Stephano wanted to practice regularly, he could make it happen. Although Stephano maintains an amazingly high level of play despite not practicing, there's no way he can get better if he doesn't practice, and it saddens me to think that he may have peaked.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Nadacambia
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands142 Posts
November 19 2012 16:28 GMT
#12336
On November 20 2012 00:27 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 20:56 Meggiroth wrote:
Honestly after seeing that kind of performance, I'm starting to doubt he will ever win a major event. And no. Backwater tournaments like LSC do not qualify. He won LSC more by luck than performance because he would have gotten stomped by violet if they met, and also he struggled too much against Bomber. His overall play was horribly bad during WCS.
I tried to compare his recent games,tournaments and even ladder play to how he played before and the difference is staggering.
I still like him and all but I won't be hoping for a DH first place or IPL top 5-6 because that just won't happen.


I hate to be negative (although I have been fairly negative lately) but I kind of agree. He played a close set with Bomber, who has been getting destroyed lately by top zergs. After watching LIfe, Leenock and Hyun play v t, it's hard to believe Stephano didn't stomp bomber into the ground. Criticisms like this only make sense when you assume Stephano is a top 3 zerg, a view I had been pushing for quite some time, but he hasn't been looking like one lately. The quality of his play does seem to have slipped a bit even if he generally continues to win. I attribute this partly to an incredibly difficult travel schedule, which must make training very difficult because he's always on the go. But where there is a will there's a way and if Stephano wanted to practice regularly, he could make it happen. Although Stephano maintains an amazingly high level of play despite not practicing, there's no way he can get better if he doesn't practice, and it saddens me to think that he may have peaked.


He won LSC2, don't be so negative :p. As for WCS finals, he just had a bad weekend. Trust me, he will place high at DH Winter
Stephano Grubby!
Nelz
Profile Joined December 2011
309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 09:19:14
November 20 2012 09:13 GMT
#12337
Stephano is out in NASL, they gave MMA the win for the last week.
tigonridge
Profile Joined November 2012
United States71 Posts
November 20 2012 10:38 GMT
#12338
The "I have enough sheer talent to win tournaments without practice" approach does have its limits.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 13:39:50
November 20 2012 11:08 GMT
#12339
On November 19 2012 20:56 Meggiroth wrote:
Honestly after seeing that kind of performance, I'm starting to doubt he will ever win a major event. And no. Backwater tournaments like LSC do not qualify.


Why wouldn't LSC count? That tournament was pretty damn stacked, Bomber played amazing in it (TvZ included), and beating him (and 2-0-ing every single opponent before that) was a huge accomplishment.

On November 19 2012 20:56 Meggiroth wrote:He won LSC more by luck than performance because he would have gotten stomped by violet if they met, and also he struggled too much against Bomber.


How can you be so sure? Violet was playing great, but he didn't look particularly strong in the second series vs Crank (Cranks PvZ is apparently good enough to beat Violet, but not Stephano). Also, I'm not sure why I have to tell you this, but every single tournament involves an element of luck concerning which opponents you will face. That applies to everyone. It's nothing new.

I don't mean to be rude to anyone in particular, but I think this might just be the most demanding fanclub I've ever visited. You're not happy with your favourite player beating top Koreans and winning tournaments, because he struggled too much in the finals? What?

The same thing happened several months ago. Some guy came in and started complaining about how Stephano was playing bad ("I compared his games now to how he used to play, he's playing like crap now blah blah you can see his mechanics are worse blah blah") and would never win a major tournament again.

Then he won the NASL, right after.

I mean, I'm not a huge Stephano-fan, but even I can tell that he's an amazing player, and he deserves not to be declared dead after one lackluster WCS performance where he lost in his worst MU after beating HerO, and then lost in the rematch. All players make bad runs every now and then.

Have a little faith, will ya?

EDITED; he didn't lose to two Zergs at WCS, my bad.
menden
Profile Joined May 2012
France30 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 13:21:38
November 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#12340
I think some of us are mistaken about why Stephano isn't doing as well as before (although he is still doing really fine imo, but we were too spoiled by him that it's hard to admit it).
Since joining such a professional structure as EG, he is clearly having mental difficulties: too much responsability and pressure, with the reddit drama catalysing these burdens.
And our attitude is not helping him either. The problem isn't that he is not training (and anyway who knows he isn't? I've heard he prepared a lot for LSC2) neither streaming. The problem is that he's not enjoying himself anymore or as much as before.

As fans we shouldn't putt pressure on him to train or to win tournaments, we shouldn't complain about his attitude or his performance. We should send him love and showing him that we still have faith in him, so that he regains his confidence.

Stephano, you are still an amazing player and I still enjoy watching you play. I'm sure you'll do better in the next tournaments.
I'll just ask you one thing: enjoy your time as a SC2 pro-gamer and stop putting so much pressure on yourself!

Edit: by the way, I totally agree with RaZorwire
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