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On June 11 2012 06:19 FaRess wrote:
What's up with all the over confident bullshit, Sase was just better than him today, you don't need to look elsewhere, did you see him miss injects or get heavily supply blocked because he was "over confident", it doesn't make sense to say those things, after watching stephano you got to know by know how relaxed he tries to play
Well have you noticed how he builds 8 Overlods at a time in game 1, despite he won this. The cannot be on purpose i think.
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On June 11 2012 06:18 AIOL! wrote:In game 2 he just didn't have to attack, just w8 and build a spire and he had the win. But he thought he could just take this coloss army of-creep. In second game he looked for sase's b3 with his roaches when the protoss already threw his units. He just has been all-ined. The next time he'll meet him he'll destroy him because he is above, clearly 
The match-up is becoming gimmicky at the moment and I think swifter teching (like Symbol likes to do) will be necessary to hold 2/3 bases all-in.
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Stephano did play an evident "don't give a fuck" series.
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On June 11 2012 06:23 roym899 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 06:19 FaRess wrote:
What's up with all the over confident bullshit, Sase was just better than him today, you don't need to look elsewhere, did you see him miss injects or get heavily supply blocked because he was "over confident", it doesn't make sense to say those things, after watching stephano you got to know by know how relaxed he tries to play Well have you noticed how he builds 8 Overlods at a time in game 1, despite he won this. The cannot be on purpose i think.
He wasn't supply blocked when he built those 8 overlords. It was just to prepare the mass production of stuff.
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Great play by Sase, all in or not, the important part is to win, and he just did.
despit is great placement, i can't think that he is really happy with his performance. Loosing to Sase is not what you expect from Stephano. (No disrespect to Sase)
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Like..You cry because of 2 base attacks and want protoss players to go macro game, and when they do go you cry about how op vortex is.. Well played tournament from Stephano overall Good luck at next tournaments!
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On June 11 2012 06:33 Darrkhan wrote:
Like..You cry because of 2 base attacks and want protoss players to go macro game, and when they do go you cry about how op vortex is.. Well played tournament from Stephano overall Good luck at next tournaments!
haha indeed. Forum monsters on teamliquid are not the most logical.
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He didn't scout the heavy robo sentry push would be coming before he launched +1ranged and started to get prepared to 200/11mn  lately he started to get more zerglings but this time he got pure roach
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On June 11 2012 06:33 Darrkhan wrote:
Like..You cry because of 2 base attacks and want protoss players to go macro game, and when they do go you cry about how op vortex is.. Well played tournament from Stephano overall Good luck at next tournaments!
Well, so what does this tell us? 
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Why no spines for stephano in those games?
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Spines are useful when you have a lot of drones, which wasn't the case in game 2/3 (especially game 3).
I think he needed more creep spread between b2/b3 during the third game, could have helped for sure. I don't know how many drones he had but maybe too many?##
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Spines help you hold it when the Protoss moves to the base with the spines, but when they move to the other base... Yeah.
I think it came down to Stephano not having enough creep spread. DRG holds the same build with a lot of creep spread forcing the Protoss to waste FFs before he gets to the base and by macroing a bit better. It's a razor thin hold with roach ling but when you do it, you're way ahead.
I do think Stephano has to go back to practicing. His mechanics are still great, but he's not adding the new things that Zergs are doing with queens into them.
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Yeah I do agree with you. Overall, he played very well. Btw, did he play a ZvZ ?
But damn, I wish he didn't baneling bust @game 2, his roach playstyle would have been much better on such a map, but well, whatever now.
Sad that Sase is out now ;<.
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On June 11 2012 06:52 Azarkon wrote:
Spines help you hold it when the Protoss moves to the base with the spines, but when they move to the other base... Yeah.
I think it came down to Stephano not having enough creep spread. DRG holds the same build with a lot of creep spread forcing the Protoss to waste FFs before he gets to the base and by macroing a bit better. It's a razor thin hold with roach ling but when you do it, you're way ahead.
I do think Stephano has to go back to practicing. His mechanics are still great, but he's not adding the new things that Zergs are doing with queens into them.
Stephano always said, there is no need for him to change his playstyle because he is always winning. Well now he lost, mabie he thinks about his playstyle now 
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His playstyle was not really the problem versus Sase. He was not at his best and got overconfident, doing not the best strat in game 2 and having not very good creep spread nor scouting in game 3.
But he had a great run in the tournamant. The ending is a bit frustrating since he had a walkover in the next round thanks to extended series.
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Stephano getting too cocky against SaSe it seems. Hopefully this will be a learning experience for him.
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Nicely executed push from Sase in game three. The way to hold that for Stephano is simply to get his hatch down early. If he gets pylon blocked at the natural it gets harder to hold. From analyzing a variety of games, I'd say it makes about a four drone difference by the 8:00 minute mark assuming everything else is the same. But those four drones make a huge difference in terms of when your production goes off the hook. Stephano was heading for a 12 minute max. If he gets the hatch down at 15 he can max at a little after 11:00 and he has enough to stop Sase's push.
I do feel like he was getting a little cocky. In game 2, I have no idea why you'd go for a baneling bust if your late game zvp is the pretty much the best in the world.
Also what was with all of the quasi-BM against MKP and then seemingly against Sase? Sase and MKP didn't seem to think it was funny. Stephano does it to get a psychological edge over his opponent (I think) but he, and MLG, should keep that sort of banter out of the game. If he wants to trash talk, he should do it in the lobby.
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Well done Stephano! If he would just practice a bit more perhaps the close losses in games 3 against MKP and Sase would have been wins. It seems he's practicing on avg. (including days he doesn't practice) probably around 2 hours a day against generally subpar competition (relative to what he faced at MLG), which means his results are, IMO, miraculous. This guy is a genius and the greatest two BW players of all time agree, so don't even try arguing the point with me;)
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If he actualy took this seriously like actualy prepairing for this mlg he would have finished 3rd at least.
Playing D3 days before mlg doesn't count as prepairing.
The more I watch him lose tournaments like these the more I hate him and his "i don't give a shit" behaviour when you can see just how much potential he has. He could be the best fking sc2 player in the world if he practiced like a korean or at least better then practices know. He has the insane capability to switch his style on the fly to perfectly counter and break any opponent but we rarely see this and it shows how much the lack of practice takes its toll on his placements on tournaments like these.
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Now that i've slept through the combination of anger and sadness after the match with Sase, i feel better, i feel confident that there will be many more successful tournaments and that Stephano will be wiser when he plays at such big events.
Viva Stephano!
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