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Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
April 24 2012 15:13 GMT
#5701
He does rage from time to time on his stream chat, but you can see on the cam he is not yelling and jumping left and right. It's not really rage, you have to remember he is quite blunt in his opinions and is not afraid to say what he thinks. He thinks the guy made a stupid move and has no chance to win a competitive tournament, so he says so. Nothing more, nothing less.

And yeah, he should scout a bit more, probably overconfident on the ladder
Shadow and dust
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
April 24 2012 15:20 GMT
#5702
he does "rage" (a lot more recently because other players are more and more playing not straight games), but because when he ladders he wants to play long macro game meaningful games and some player he meet just focus on beating him because he's famous, and usually do so by playing really unconventional (cheesy) games
as said earlier, his rage is internal, it's more of being fed up by noobs cheesing when he wants to train his macro than raging because he loses
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Pogomais
Profile Joined April 2012
Mexico48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 16:28:19
April 24 2012 16:27 GMT
#5703
Its good to loose sometimes, it make you learn faster from your mistakes.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 24 2012 16:39 GMT
#5704
On April 25 2012 00:20 DOUDOU wrote:
he does "rage" (a lot more recently because other players are more and more playing not straight games), but because when he ladders he wants to play long macro game meaningful games and some player he meet just focus on beating him because he's famous, and usually do so by playing really unconventional (cheesy) games
as said earlier, his rage is internal, it's more of being fed up by noobs cheesing when he wants to train his macro than raging because he loses


Thing is, you think MC is going to play straight-up macro games against him? MC, who became famous for his two-base timings and is a master of screwing with Zerg timings?

He's not going to be anonymous in tournaments. Stephano's style is understood by every pro Protoss in the scene. They're going to screw with him the same way his ladder opponents are starting to do.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
April 24 2012 16:45 GMT
#5705
On April 25 2012 01:39 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 00:20 DOUDOU wrote:
he does "rage" (a lot more recently because other players are more and more playing not straight games), but because when he ladders he wants to play long macro game meaningful games and some player he meet just focus on beating him because he's famous, and usually do so by playing really unconventional (cheesy) games
as said earlier, his rage is internal, it's more of being fed up by noobs cheesing when he wants to train his macro than raging because he loses


Thing is, you think MC is going to play straight-up macro games against him? MC, who became famous for his two-base timings and is a master of screwing with Zerg timings?

He's not going to be anonymous in tournaments. Stephano's style is understood by every pro Protoss in the scene. They're going to screw with him the same way his ladder opponents are starting to do.

as said, he doesn't play ladder to practice against unconventional builds, just to keep his macro in shape

he can practice against MC's timings another way
playing against opponents that doesn't have quite your macro by far and goes builds that will never happen in tournaments doesn't bring him anything
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 24 2012 16:45 GMT
#5706
On April 25 2012 00:09 Benjamin99 wrote:
Stephano micro splitting are insane. I only thought Korean Terrans couldt split so well against banelings. I geuss not!


It's somewhat easier to split 4.7 speed speedlings than 2.25 speed marines ^.^
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
April 24 2012 16:52 GMT
#5707
On April 25 2012 01:45 ArcticRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 00:09 Benjamin99 wrote:
Stephano micro splitting are insane. I only thought Korean Terrans couldt split so well against banelings. I geuss not!


It's somewhat easier to split 4.7 speed speedlings than 2.25 speed marines ^.^


I believe he was talking about the roach and hydra splits.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 24 2012 16:54 GMT
#5708
On April 25 2012 01:45 ArcticRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 00:09 Benjamin99 wrote:
Stephano micro splitting are insane. I only thought Korean Terrans couldt split so well against banelings. I geuss not!


It's somewhat easier to split 4.7 speed speedlings than 2.25 speed marines ^.^

well, stimmed marines are not only speed 3.375 but also bigger and ranged, what makes them easier to split.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 24 2012 17:06 GMT
#5709
On April 25 2012 01:45 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 01:39 Azarkon wrote:
On April 25 2012 00:20 DOUDOU wrote:
he does "rage" (a lot more recently because other players are more and more playing not straight games), but because when he ladders he wants to play long macro game meaningful games and some player he meet just focus on beating him because he's famous, and usually do so by playing really unconventional (cheesy) games
as said earlier, his rage is internal, it's more of being fed up by noobs cheesing when he wants to train his macro than raging because he loses


Thing is, you think MC is going to play straight-up macro games against him? MC, who became famous for his two-base timings and is a master of screwing with Zerg timings?

He's not going to be anonymous in tournaments. Stephano's style is understood by every pro Protoss in the scene. They're going to screw with him the same way his ladder opponents are starting to do.

as said, he doesn't play ladder to practice against unconventional builds, just to keep his macro in shape

he can practice against MC's timings another way
playing against opponents that doesn't have quite your macro by far and goes builds that will never happen in tournaments doesn't bring him anything


I think he needs to experiment with other styles. Three hatch roach is a great build, but it's not the only build that works. Dimaga's ling baneling style. Ret's fast brood lord style. They all work and have their pros and cons.

He's using mutas now, which I think is a great step.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 24 2012 17:18 GMT
#5710
On April 25 2012 01:52 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 01:45 ArcticRaven wrote:
On April 25 2012 00:09 Benjamin99 wrote:
Stephano micro splitting are insane. I only thought Korean Terrans couldt split so well against banelings. I geuss not!


It's somewhat easier to split 4.7 speed speedlings than 2.25 speed marines ^.^


I believe he was talking about the roach and hydra splits.


Indeed I was. Was amasing to see how fast he split all those roaches and hydras vs a million speed banes
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
April 24 2012 17:24 GMT
#5711
http://esfiworld.com/news/red-bull-battlegrounds-41k-tournament-austin-city-limits

He will be there.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 17:30:53
April 24 2012 17:30 GMT
#5712
As long as he doesn't rage too hard, I'm kinda glad that Toss are starting to test his timings.
What I'm not as happy is that I can't watch his stream, or Day9's euro week, cause of my school's fucking internet blocks.
Also, while the Red Bull tournament is damn cool, I think its terrible for the scene that its an invitational, for such a huge prize pool. I hope at some point we move on from that format, and Red Bull could cut a small bit off of the prize pool or something to run some online regional qualies.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
SirScoots
Profile Joined December 2010
United States138 Posts
April 24 2012 17:42 GMT
#5713
On April 22 2012 22:58 revel8 wrote:
Is it me or has Stephano been getting really friendly with the EG team-members recently? You have Idra complimenting him, InControl calling him 'the perfect Zerg', Anna making him a stuffed Baneling toy, JYP and Stephano having some weird 'BigHead' banter on Twitter, SirScoots having a meal with Stephano at IPL4 and now Huk and Stephano hanging out and goofing around in Vegas. Makes me wonder if they are putting on a charm-offensive and attempting to recruit him?


While I would have a meal with Stephano if the situation arose, I did not have one with him at IPL4, so not sure where you are getting your information.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 17:50:06
April 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#5714
SirScoots, you know you want him bad

Gotta catch'em all!
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
April 24 2012 17:56 GMT
#5715
On April 25 2012 02:42 SirScoots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 22:58 revel8 wrote:
Is it me or has Stephano been getting really friendly with the EG team-members recently? You have Idra complimenting him, InControl calling him 'the perfect Zerg', Anna making him a stuffed Baneling toy, JYP and Stephano having some weird 'BigHead' banter on Twitter, SirScoots having a meal with Stephano at IPL4 and now Huk and Stephano hanging out and goofing around in Vegas. Makes me wonder if they are putting on a charm-offensive and attempting to recruit him?


While I would have a meal with Stephano if the situation arose, I did not have one with him at IPL4, so not sure where you are getting your information.

And now your monitoring Stephano's fanclub.
The plot thickens...

(there is no way out of this :p)
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#5716
On April 25 2012 02:06 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 01:45 DOUDOU wrote:
On April 25 2012 01:39 Azarkon wrote:
On April 25 2012 00:20 DOUDOU wrote:
he does "rage" (a lot more recently because other players are more and more playing not straight games), but because when he ladders he wants to play long macro game meaningful games and some player he meet just focus on beating him because he's famous, and usually do so by playing really unconventional (cheesy) games
as said earlier, his rage is internal, it's more of being fed up by noobs cheesing when he wants to train his macro than raging because he loses


Thing is, you think MC is going to play straight-up macro games against him? MC, who became famous for his two-base timings and is a master of screwing with Zerg timings?

He's not going to be anonymous in tournaments. Stephano's style is understood by every pro Protoss in the scene. They're going to screw with him the same way his ladder opponents are starting to do.

as said, he doesn't play ladder to practice against unconventional builds, just to keep his macro in shape

he can practice against MC's timings another way
playing against opponents that doesn't have quite your macro by far and goes builds that will never happen in tournaments doesn't bring him anything


I think he needs to experiment with other styles. Three hatch roach is a great build, but it's not the only build that works. Dimaga's ling baneling style. Ret's fast brood lord style. They all work and have their pros and cons.

He's using mutas now, which I think is a great step.


If he wants to ever beat MC, he needs to learn how to safely get to really fast Hive tech, bypassing mass Roaches or Mutas. MC is so solid against either of those, but lost to Violet and DRG when they switched up styles.

Of course, that might not be enough. Chances are, by the time of MLG Arena, MC hadn't practiced PvZ in a while, seeing as there are exactly 0 Zergs left in GSL Code S...
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
April 24 2012 18:31 GMT
#5717
About the rage thing, Stephano is kind of pissed when his opponents play do a type of play that simply can't be done in tournaments, and that is :

The 3 pylon block down the ramp between the main and the natural in ZvP
The 2 bunker block down the ramp in ZvT.

Those 2 strats can't be done in tournaments cause every tournaments maps have a neutral supply depot down the ramp. The thing is that there is no point practicing against those strats since they simply can't be done in tournaments. And in the last 2 days, Stephano faced this like 5 times (and lost nearly all those times), that's why he was pretty pissed to waste practice time with this bullshit.
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
April 24 2012 18:40 GMT
#5718
He's pissed because he's still waiting for being sent into GM, so he just faces Masters opponents that just try to 1/2 base allin him as soon as they spot his name on the loading screen.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 24 2012 18:46 GMT
#5719
On April 25 2012 01:52 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 01:45 ArcticRaven wrote:
On April 25 2012 00:09 Benjamin99 wrote:
Stephano micro splitting are insane. I only thought Korean Terrans couldt split so well against banelings. I geuss not!


It's somewhat easier to split 4.7 speed speedlings than 2.25 speed marines ^.^


I believe he was talking about the roach and hydra splits.


Oh sorry. I thought it was about another amazing ZvZ ^.^
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
April 24 2012 20:18 GMT
#5720
via twitter: "Une ame charitable aurait un compte WoW a preter, si Oui, demandez moi de vous suivre pour qu'on puisse se parler en PV."

now im a little rusty in my school-french, but i think it means something like if anybody has a WoW account to share?

wtf :O
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