On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
You must be jelly. In his current form, Huk has 0 chance against Nestea and Leenock. And I'm saying this as a Huk fan.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Funny to see an ignorant person like yourself going all over the place to try to discredit Naniwa . I hope you someday can fill that empty hole in your life and start doing more positive and productive things than whining on forums with no logic at all.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Funny to see an ignorant person like yourself going all over the place to try to discredit Naniwa . I hope you someday can fill that empty hole in your life and start doing more positive and productive things than whining on forums with no logic at all.
Good day sir!
Why the butthurt? My point was legit, your baseless assumptions are not...
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
Better than Nestea atm, not leenock. He just beat MVP. Let's just ignore that and remember when Naniwa beat MVP since we're in a fan club thread, right? Not that loser's bracket really matters anyway, which naniwa was knocked to after his second winner's bracket. Seriously, Huk is the better foriegner right now, that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying naniwa can't beat the best, just that's he's not currently the best.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
Just a delusional Nani hater don't even bother.
How is bringing up logical and factual points hating? He's out of the tourny and played cheesy. He's not the best foriegn protoss. It's really that simple.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
Just a delusional Nani hater don't even bother.
How is bringing up logical and factual points hating? He's out of the tourny and played cheesy. He's not the best foriegn protoss. It's really that simple.
You can't really prove if a player is better than another. You just have your opinion that is based on what you've seen from them. It's really that simple.
In my opinion you can definitely make a case for Naniwa being the best foreign protoss right now. Oh and GTFO of his fanclub if you're not a fan.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
Just a delusional Nani hater don't even bother.
How is bringing up logical and factual points hating? He's out of the tourny and played cheesy. He's not the best foriegn protoss. It's really that simple.
How can you say Nani was playing cheesy, and judge him for it when both of the games Huk won against Ret were all ins and cheese lika 8 and 9 gate.
On February 26 2012 23:11 Hubris wrote: I know this is a fan club, but "best" foriegn toss is a flat out false statement. His games (his foes did it too) were cheesy/gimmicky and as usual he failed to beat the current top tier players like MKP and DRG. Huk had a harder bracket considering recent perfomances, almoat everyone he faced is better than Naniwa atm.
Not sure what world you live in if MKP is top tier but Leenock and Nestea aren't, except I'm assuming you're conviently ignoring that to fit in with what you think. Not to mention that if you think Minigun, Socke, Ret and Oz is harder than Grubby, MKP, Sheth, Nestea, Leenock and DRG i just don't know what to say. I'm not saying Nani is definately the best foreign toss, but i definately don't think you can say that's "flat out false" either, especially as you've just backed it up with nonsense.
Ret beat MVP, I'd say Huk's group was harder. Neastea has been under performing and Leenock is a top tier zerg, but he alone does not make up for Naniwa's lack of code s level abiltiy. Especially when naniwa plays so cheesy in some of these games. Either way, Naniwa wasnt good enough to advance. Huk was, I'd say Huk is the better foriegner toss atm purely out of that.
Do you seriously think Ret is better than Leenock and NesTea?
Just a delusional Nani hater don't even bother.
How is bringing up logical and factual points hating? He's out of the tourny and played cheesy. He's not the best foriegn protoss. It's really that simple.
How can you say Nani was playing cheesy, and judge him for it when both of the games Huk won against Ret were all ins and cheese lika 8 and 9 gate.
He saying nani was playing cheesy, then HuK 9 gate all-in against ret.
good ol' nani haters, naniwa is best foreign protoss.
Naniwa will slay more dragons and kings in the future!
I liked the way that he started scouting after his pylon after getting cheesed a couple of times. I didn't like the way he stopped scouting after pylon after a couple of macro games, and lost as a result. It's like 30 minerals, just send that damn probe! Other than that, great showing at MLG.
Now use your brain and compare those players with eachother. HuK got the easy road to the WB-finals while NaNiwa had to meet 4 koreans and 2 foreigners.
HuK only played against 1 korean (FXOz) wich i don't even know how good he is.
Beating minigun is no accomplishment at all. Beating socke is decent. Beating ret is better because Ret is a really good player.
I would of liked to see HuK meet NesTea, Leenock, MKP, DongRaeGu and see if he could even beat any of them. Grubby and Sheth are no pushovers eighter.
NaNiwa playing cheesy....... how about his opponents? Almost all koreans cheeses him. Against NesTea he got cheesed the first game. Then they played a longer game and NaNiwa won convincingly. 3rd game NaNiwa cheeses just like NesTea did 1st game. Players can cheese NaNiwa but NaNiwa can't cheese them?
What about HuK @ MLG Providence? In the beginning of the game he sneaks in with a probe and hides a pylon in NaNi's base and then just teleports in units and wins the game. So your beloved HuK cheeses aswell Hubris. And after that 1st cheese game by HuK NaNiwa crushed HuK 2-1 with real games without cheese.
Don't come here to NaNi's fanclub and talk about NaNi fanboys..... you are no different.... your a HuK fanboy and by your extremely dumb and entertaining posts you have clearly proven that you will do anything to stop yourself from crying over the fact that NaNiwa is doing better than HuK in SC2 atm. DEAL WITH IT!
And by the way....... if we shall talk about past results...... NaNiwa 2nd at MLG Providence beating NesTea, MVP, DongRaeGu, HuK and so on. Past results also matter if you wanna compare 2 players with eachother.
Just get over yourself and start realizing that NaNiwa is beating better and more accomplished players than what your HuK is doing. I know it's hard to face the truth but if you do you can atleast stop lying to yourself.
I know you have some kind of NA pride but NaNiwa is actually better than HuK atm. Results speak for themselves. NaNiwa beating HuK speaks for itself. NaNiwa beating better players than what HuK does speaks for itself.
Sad that HuK got such an easy road to the WB-final while NaNiwa actually had to meet really hard opponents. But i guess that's life. Some people take the easy way while others take the hard way.
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. I hope you someday can fill that empty hole in your life and start doing more positive and productive things than whining on forums with no logic at all.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pmwIL.jpg)
