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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#6921
이정훈 ‏@MKPS2
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Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 14:56 GMT
#6922
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BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
December 16 2012 14:57 GMT
#6923
gogo
[Woongjin Stars]
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#6924
MKP in the finals now :DD

His gonna be playing against Dimaga.

Game 1-3 were pretty sloppy both of them by MKP, even though he won 1 of them.

But game 4 and 5 MKP looked really damn good, just shutting down everything MC did.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 16:35:00
December 16 2012 16:33 GMT
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 16 2012 16:35 GMT
#6926
WOO GOGO MKP!! Please show us some good TvZ you have been training !!
Anthonie
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands220 Posts
December 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#6927
What happened? I missed the start and saw drones + lings pulled and MKP scrambling?
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
December 16 2012 20:29 GMT
#6928
6 pool game one...
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3454 Posts
December 16 2012 20:30 GMT
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 20:30 GMT
#6930
I honestly cannot understand why MKP just doesn't wall off at his ramp with a CC first... it will save him from so many losses to early pools >.>
Anthonie
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 20:47:31
December 16 2012 20:41 GMT
#6931
MKP going mech in g2, if he loses it further strengthens the statement that MKP only wins if he makes marines I saw a few pages ago x.x

EDIT: I've never seen MKP play a solid mech game the last few events.. Whenever he tosses down the double armory he loses.
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 20:49 GMT
#6932
On December 17 2012 05:41 Anthonie wrote:
MKP going mech in g2, if he loses it further strengthens the statement that MKP only wins if he makes marines I saw a few pages ago x.x

EDIT: I've never seen MKP play a solid mech game the last few events.. Whenever he tosses down the double armory he loses.

Thats not because of MKP though, its because mech is a gimmicky play, if the zerg knows its coming, he can crush it in so many ways, I think MKP played good that game, but he played a stupid style.
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Last Edited: 2012-12-16 20:52:34
December 16 2012 20:52 GMT
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Hiea
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Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 20:54 GMT
#6934
On December 17 2012 05:52 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:41 Anthonie wrote:
MKP going mech in g2, if he loses it further strengthens the statement that MKP only wins if he makes marines I saw a few pages ago x.x

EDIT: I've never seen MKP play a solid mech game the last few events.. Whenever he tosses down the double armory he loses.

Thats not because of MKP though, its because mech is a gimmicky play, if the zerg knows its coming, he can crush it in so many ways, I think MKP played good that game, but he played a stupid style.


No, mech is a legitimate strategy. But roach drops own mech with no banshees (or mass turrets, which he also could have made, he had 1500 minerals when he got dropped)

MKP should have transitioned into hellion banshee, not straight to tanks

The hellion/banshee doesn't stop this if prepared from the very start of the game, HyuN has done this a lot vs hellion/banshee and rolled over them.

To deal with roach drops you need to have a timer on the overlords in some ways.
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December 16 2012 20:56 GMT
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Hiea
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Denmark1538 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 20:58:51
December 16 2012 20:58 GMT
#6936
On December 17 2012 05:56 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:54 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:52 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:41 Anthonie wrote:
MKP going mech in g2, if he loses it further strengthens the statement that MKP only wins if he makes marines I saw a few pages ago x.x

EDIT: I've never seen MKP play a solid mech game the last few events.. Whenever he tosses down the double armory he loses.

Thats not because of MKP though, its because mech is a gimmicky play, if the zerg knows its coming, he can crush it in so many ways, I think MKP played good that game, but he played a stupid style.


No, mech is a legitimate strategy. But roach drops own mech with no banshees (or mass turrets, which he also could have made, he had 1500 minerals when he got dropped)

MKP should have transitioned into hellion banshee, not straight to tanks

The hellion/banshee doesn't stop this if prepared from the very start of the game, HyuN has done this a lot vs hellion/banshee and rolled over them.

To deal with roach drops you need to have a timer on the overlords in some ways.


you can deal with roach drop with banshees, tanks and scv pull, mkp almost held this off. zerg has no way of reaching the banshees, so they will deal damage for the entire duration. The attack went on for several minutes, which means dozens of roaches per banshee

Still doesn't change the fact that mech is a gimmick that relies on on the zerg not going for an opening that counters it, Dimaga knew MKP was going mech before he put down his evolution chamber, so he countered it.

And hellion/banshee can go into bio or mech, making zerg unable to chose a tech path.
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3454 Posts
December 16 2012 21:00 GMT
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 16 2012 21:02 GMT
#6938
On December 17 2012 06:00 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:58 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:56 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:54 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:52 monkybone wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:41 Anthonie wrote:
MKP going mech in g2, if he loses it further strengthens the statement that MKP only wins if he makes marines I saw a few pages ago x.x

EDIT: I've never seen MKP play a solid mech game the last few events.. Whenever he tosses down the double armory he loses.

Thats not because of MKP though, its because mech is a gimmicky play, if the zerg knows its coming, he can crush it in so many ways, I think MKP played good that game, but he played a stupid style.


No, mech is a legitimate strategy. But roach drops own mech with no banshees (or mass turrets, which he also could have made, he had 1500 minerals when he got dropped)

MKP should have transitioned into hellion banshee, not straight to tanks

The hellion/banshee doesn't stop this if prepared from the very start of the game, HyuN has done this a lot vs hellion/banshee and rolled over them.

To deal with roach drops you need to have a timer on the overlords in some ways.


you can deal with roach drop with banshees, tanks and scv pull, mkp almost held this off. zerg has no way of reaching the banshees, so they will deal damage for the entire duration. The attack went on for several minutes, which means dozens of roaches per banshee

Still doesn't change the fact that mech is a gimmick that relies on on the zerg not going for an opening that counters it, Dimaga knew MKP was going mech before he put down his evolution chamber, so he countered it.


you talk about the "counter" to mech as there is such a thing, mech is not one build. Mech is quickly becoming standard TvZ, its stupid to say it's a gimmick

Well, the players currently succesful in TvZ don't really go mech.. TaeJa, Polt, Bomber, they may do it every once in a while, but 90% of their game is marine/tank.

Mech is easy to deal with if the zerg knows it's coming, it was a "standard build" a while ago because zergs didn't know how to play against it like they do now.
Anthonie
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands220 Posts
December 16 2012 21:03 GMT
#6939
MKP getting stim~! Gogogo! It might just be because I've never seen MKP do well with mech but his biomech is really solid. His pure bio is kinda.. weird tho.. he gets his whole army caught by fungals even post-patch all the time.
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Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:07:42
December 16 2012 21:04 GMT
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