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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#6901
Game 1 - Cloud Kingdom - MKP opens up standard, CC first into 3CC, Goswser does a 6roach poke, nothing really lost or gained. goswser uses overlord creep spread+queen to block MKPs natural 3rd and 4th base, delaying MKPs 3rd by about 3 minutes as he was across the map, this wouldn't have factored in as much since goswser 3rd was very late, however MKP got 2 midgame armies covered in 1 fungal, and then he just struggled to hold on and eventually loses to ultralisk.

Game 2 - Antiga - MKP opens up CC first into reactor hellion into 3rax, goswser goes 3hatch with only roach/spore crawler defense, expecting hellion/banshee, but MKP has marauders/marines and hellions and just outmicros goswser and wins.

Game 3 - Ohana - 2rax opening, MKP gets a good bunker up near the ramp, forcing 12 lings and drone pull, he would be ahead at this point but he pulled 7 scvs earlier and sent them back once they reached 1/3 of the way to goswser base, evening it up.
MKP then goes 2fact reactor/techlab, double armory and 3CC, and dies to the standard roach/ling/bane all in.

Game 1 I felt was just his army getting caught twice, if he had that he would have been able win, since he was even supply all throughout because of his economic lead.

And in game 3 is just a build order win, greed vs all in.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 21:02 GMT
#6902
ah, damn. poor mkp. needs to work on that tvz haha
thanks for recap
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#6903
ughhh he lost to goswser? he's fucked for hsc
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 15 2012 21:13 GMT
#6904
On December 16 2012 06:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
ughhh he lost to goswser? he's fucked for hsc

I think that TaKe needs to make sure MKP is in groups without zergs, so the viewer count stays up for 2 reasons.. terran and MKP
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 15 2012 21:30 GMT
#6905
I'm actually really wondering one think in TvZ atm.. if you've seen Flash vs zerg, he has gone for a ebay first blcok at the natural of the zerg, and the end result of it is that he starts his CC after barracks at the same time as the zerg natural.

I wonder how that works out.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 15 2012 21:33 GMT
#6906
I wonder how come MKP especially is struggling so much in TvZ :/ he was looking so good early 2012 and his TvT and TvP are still really good..
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#6907
On December 16 2012 06:33 Darrkhan wrote:
I wonder how come MKP especially is struggling so much in TvZ :/ he was looking so good early 2012 and his TvT and TvP are still really good..

Everybody is struggling in TvZ, mang. He'll get better at it though, just going through a rough patch
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 15 2012 22:15 GMT
#6908
:DD

He advanced in second place, 2-0'ing goswser in the final match

he will play MC tomorrow for a spot in the finals vs Dimaga/Stephano
MangoSnap
Profile Joined July 2012
United States184 Posts
December 15 2012 22:15 GMT
#6909
YESSS, Goswser can't repeat his success and loses 2-0 to our King!
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 15 2012 22:19 GMT
#6910
On December 16 2012 06:39 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 06:33 Darrkhan wrote:
I wonder how come MKP especially is struggling so much in TvZ :/ he was looking so good early 2012 and his TvT and TvP are still really good..

Everybody is struggling in TvZ, mang. He'll get better at it though, just going through a rough patch


Have been going through a rough patch for pretty long, while many pro players have been doing just fine against zerg (look at polt, flash etc.) I've been watching prime tv time to time and almost all games i saw mkp playing against tvz he just struggled so much. like not making any vikings and caught offguard by like just a couple of broodlords. I'm not necessary saying that MKP is the only player struggling but its just sad to see him like underdog in every TvZ series :/

On bright side he beat Goswser in rematch and will play against MC tomorrow gogo mkp!
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
December 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#6911
On December 16 2012 07:19 Darrkhan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 06:39 IMoperator wrote:
On December 16 2012 06:33 Darrkhan wrote:
I wonder how come MKP especially is struggling so much in TvZ :/ he was looking so good early 2012 and his TvT and TvP are still really good..

Everybody is struggling in TvZ, mang. He'll get better at it though, just going through a rough patch


Have been going through a rough patch for pretty long, while many pro players have been doing just fine against zerg (look at polt, flash etc.) I've been watching prime tv time to time and almost all games i saw mkp playing against tvz he just struggled so much. like not making any vikings and caught offguard by like just a couple of broodlords. I'm not necessary saying that MKP is the only player struggling but its just sad to see him like underdog in every TvZ series :/

On bright side he beat Goswser in rematch and will play against MC tomorrow gogo mkp!


well, before the last patch, we had major tournaments (the ones where the terran participation was reasonable enough to make the stats valid) mostly with 30-40% for Terran in TvZ, wether MKP played in there or not. So yes, generally Terrans were struggling heavily in the matchup. But for MKP, he oftentimes loses very easy, as I stated yesterday. I think it may be because he feels generally uncomfortable in the matchup. I hope he can get some new hope with the recent patch. He needs to put more thought into his play in TvZ, then he will be back on top.
bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
December 15 2012 23:07 GMT
#6912
Are there any vods of the games up yet? I had to go out and missed all of them
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
December 16 2012 02:07 GMT
#6913
On December 16 2012 08:07 bearzly wrote:
Are there any vods of the games up yet? I had to go out and missed all of them


http://ko.twitch.tv/emstarcraft/b/348335046
but not english.
[Woongjin Stars]
bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
December 16 2012 03:00 GMT
#6914
Watching this vod...MKP builds ghosts??? before templar are even out? What's going on with him :p
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 03:18 GMT
#6915
On December 16 2012 12:00 bearzly wrote:
Watching this vod...MKP builds ghosts??? before templar are even out? What's going on with him :p

i know right. he got vikings :o
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
December 16 2012 04:32 GMT
#6916
the last 2 games... goswser didn't build any infestor... bad idea against any T especially MKP
JordanYOLO
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia92 Posts
December 16 2012 06:34 GMT
#6917
What's the stream to tomorrows game on MKP vs MC? :D and what time is it in Korean time :D? ty
I am so cool.... :D. MKP!<3
Oops1
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:57:37
December 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#6918
Second day for english stream : http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Millenium TV EN

22:00 KST
14:00 CET
08:00 EST
05:00 PST
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#6919
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 16 2012 10:25 GMT
#6920
On December 16 2012 12:00 bearzly wrote:
Watching this vod...MKP builds ghosts??? before templar are even out? What's going on with him :p


Yeah, now you mentioned it. It was really strange :o I remember when he was on top of the world beating everyone and would not give a fuck about templars and just split his marines and marauders. That time i was struggling so much in TvP because i tried to copy MKPs play, needless to say it didn't go really well :D.
Good to see him preparing for colossus and templar tech beforehand ^^
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