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Mafs
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada458 Posts
June 26 2011 23:40 GMT
#16281
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.


Omg, thats true. Also on crevasse vs huk he let his probe die when on the tower. This could be MC's greatest weakness. Spread it to korea.
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
June 26 2011 23:41 GMT
#16282
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.

exactly what you said. "he LET" what happens if he notices these things?

counting on your opponent to make silly mistakes is never a good idea. because if it doesnt work, youre behind.
KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
June 27 2011 02:26 GMT
#16283
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/270434_244662025560185_171321416227580_1102555_1306039_n.jpg

This image should be added to the fanclub
사랑해요
Arishok
Profile Joined June 2011
125 Posts
June 27 2011 02:54 GMT
#16284
On June 27 2011 08:41 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.

exactly what you said. "he LET" what happens if he notices these things?

counting on your opponent to make silly mistakes is never a good idea. because if it doesnt work, youre behind.


You are behind if you don't do anything. It's like playing ZvT and the terran doesn't drop a single time the entire game or even move out of their base. Most of the time they get contained to 2-3 base and get owned by a 5-6 base zerg going infestor/broodlord

I don't see what can be done against a 3/3 blink stalker and colossus late game protoss army capable of instant reinforcements. Losira and NesTea have not really shown how to either.

Until someone figures it out and idra and other zergs can copy the style, playing the "try to find a weak point" style might be the best option.

If you send in an overlord full of +2 banes against a protoss mineral line, it might not work, but if it does even 30% of the time, it is worth it. Very few protoss react very fast. Naniwa is extremely good at this. He almost always pull probes instantly and builds a cannon, but other protoss? Probably not fast enough.

Losira beat MC at MLG with this. He predicted MC would do this forge FE into starport build that he used on idra 3-4 times, and decided to try a pure hydra all-in with a nydus. His first nydus was outside the wall-ed in protoss base so MC could not kill it before it spawned. Mc had no colossus, so it was like 10 gateway units and some phoenix vs 10-15 hydra and Losira fully destroyed the front of MC's wall. At this point he could flood lings in, but he actually nydused againt behind MC's mineral line, and sent some hydra back there to kill probes.

How MC had lost a forge/gateway/lots of probes, and eventually lost his army slowly.

Losira would have lost that game if MC went forge FE into robo colossus. I don't know if losira was able to scout in time to change his build, but if he did not, he took an educated guess on what build MC would do and it paid off for an almost free win.


oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
June 27 2011 06:29 GMT
#16285
On June 27 2011 11:26 KryptoStorm wrote:
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/270434_244662025560185_171321416227580_1102555_1306039_n.jpg

This image should be added to the fanclub

lol oh man, but idk idra needs to find something against this blink play that protoss are capable of.
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
June 27 2011 06:44 GMT
#16286
does anyone have a picture of IdrA typing out lol instead of gg?
Those Bitches
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
June 27 2011 16:48 GMT
#16287


This is so awesome.
Sergeras
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria185 Posts
June 27 2011 17:38 GMT
#16288
On June 27 2011 08:40 Mafs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.


Omg, thats true. Also on crevasse vs huk he let his probe die when on the tower. This could be MC's greatest weakness. Spread it to korea.
Don't spread it to korea just to idra.Also very good observation by you Arishok that's pretty true.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
June 27 2011 17:49 GMT
#16289
On June 28 2011 02:38 Sergeras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 08:40 Mafs wrote:
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.


Omg, thats true. Also on crevasse vs huk he let his probe die when on the tower. This could be MC's greatest weakness. Spread it to korea.
Don't spread it to korea just to idra.Also very good observation by you Arishok that's pretty true.


You know that every caster in the homestory cup and especially Huk said, that MC has exellent map awarness. So I wouldn't count on something like that
SENKi
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland52 Posts
June 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#16290
On June 28 2011 01:48 xtfftc wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpM0wPKBOro

This is so awesome.


rofl this is hilarious
congrats on lpaying protoss
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#16291
On June 28 2011 02:49 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 02:38 Sergeras wrote:
On June 27 2011 08:40 Mafs wrote:
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.


Omg, thats true. Also on crevasse vs huk he let his probe die when on the tower. This could be MC's greatest weakness. Spread it to korea.
Don't spread it to korea just to idra.Also very good observation by you Arishok that's pretty true.


You know that every caster in the homestory cup and especially Huk said, that MC has exellent map awarness. So I wouldn't count on something like that


But it's been his downfall multiple times. The only thing I can assume is that his time away from Korea has made him lazy.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
cavalier117
Profile Joined April 2011
United States430 Posts
June 27 2011 21:52 GMT
#16292
On June 26 2011 19:50 xtfftc wrote:


Finally some recognition for Idra - at 14:56 CombatEX admits that Idra is better than him.


dude, who even cares about IdrA in that interview, IncontroL does interviews better than barbara fucking walthers lol. that was probably the funniest interview clip so far this year. it even had chill in it lol
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
June 27 2011 22:33 GMT
#16293
On June 28 2011 01:48 xtfftc wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpM0wPKBOro

This is so awesome.


Lawdy that was brilliant. Is the dude serious or just trolling?
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 22:41:53
June 27 2011 22:41 GMT
#16294
On June 28 2011 07:33 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 01:48 xtfftc wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpM0wPKBOro

This is so awesome.


Lawdy that was brilliant. Is the dude serious or just trolling?


very trolling. he speaks English very well and has lots of other interviews out there where he trolls people and other interview out there that he does in a normal fashion.

xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
June 27 2011 23:10 GMT
#16295
Yep, check out Carmac's interview with Huk; it's on the same youtube channel.
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 27 2011 23:32 GMT
#16296
On June 27 2011 08:41 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 08:30 Arishok wrote:
IdrA needs to learn more all-in builds for protoss.

He can macrozerg against players like White-Ra, Socke, etc.

But if he keeps running into MC or other protoss who know how to use the miraculus "blink" (huk, chinese protoss like lovett/xaiot, Alicia, etc) then he will need some cheeses beyond roach/ling.

MC for one showed he has bad mini-map awareness. In recent events -
1. He let Ret Nydus next to a pylon in NASL, in vision on minimap
2. He let Losira Nydus beside his mineral line in MLG, also in vision
3. He let Tarson fly medivacs around his bases when they were in vision
4. He lets zergs hit bane bombs on his probes before pulling them.

These have cost MC games and series.

The only zergs doing well against protoss are losira and nestea, and Losira ends games before protoss can hit 3 bases almost always.

I for some reason cannot remember what NesTea does against protoss, but I suspect other forms of heavy pressure.

exactly what you said. "he LET" what happens if he notices these things?

counting on your opponent to make silly mistakes is never a good idea. because if it doesnt work, youre behind.


Not all players are perfect so yes starcraft is a game of risk/reward so it doesn't mean it is not a viable situation. It is an small investment to pay for some huge reward. Baneling drop to baneling line should only be done in 3 situation:

1. very late game when zerg is only 4-5 bases when that amount of minerals/gas don't matter as much
2. when you are going bling/ling/infestor already since you probably got drop already
3. you need to do econ damage due to falling behind early in game

Yes, it is not a strategy where you want to go for straight away every game, but it is definitely an extremely powerful strat. Just think if you fail one time, they know you have drop/baneling . You can literally move an empty overlord to their mineral line and they still have to pull all their workers.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 28 2011 17:01 GMT
#16297
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/starcraft-nerd-has-cute-girlfriend/
IdrA is an alpha badass who gets chicks
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 28 2011 17:02 GMT
#16298
So what are upcoming tournaments that IdrA is in. FXO invitation is the only one, but I'm not sure if he is even in it..
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 28 2011 17:05 GMT
#16299
All hail the Alpha male. He stands proud, his chin held high. His answers are short and affrimative; his smile, rare. He is an oak tree.

:/

"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
June 28 2011 19:06 GMT
#16300
On June 29 2011 02:02 Whole wrote:
So what are upcoming tournaments that IdrA is in. FXO invitation is the only one, but I'm not sure if he is even in it..

Apart from the FXO Invitational, IPL Season 2, GeForce AM/PRO. There is some Tt tournament I think he is in as well.
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