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Amiralen
Sweden61 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On April 26 2011 02:29 Amiralen wrote: What thumbnail are you guys seeing? I got the one with IdraS face right? Or is it something from me personal? Edit: Updated playlist and changed the thumbnail (I think :D) ya you changed the thumbnail. the previous one was him, but his eyes were closed so it looked silly...and it wasn't him mid interview, so it might have been ambiguous. I wanted you to change it because of the closed eyes though lol. | ||
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Amiralen
Sweden61 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:22 Klive5ive wrote: IdrA has massively improved the pyschological aspect of his play recently. Taking his level of precision and applying that to well timed all-ins is just frightening. Now the opponent hasn't a clue how to prepare. I hope he just builds on this recent form to be a formidable force for the rest of this year. The funny thing is if you'd ask him hed say he only that because Zerg is really terrible :D | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On April 26 2011 00:22 Klive5ive wrote: IdrA has massively improved the pyschological aspect of his play recently. Taking his level of precision and applying that to well timed all-ins is just frightening. Now the opponent hasn't a clue how to prepare. I hope he just builds on this recent form to be a formidable force for the rest of this year. I mean, a lot of the time when he all-ins it's a reaction to something he sees his opponent do. + Show Spoiler + Like seeing your opponent CC first on Metalopolis close spawns. IdrA isn't stupid, he knows that if he allins with ling/bane he'll just win, plain and simple. Not really a new style tbh just common sense really. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On April 26 2011 02:43 MonsieurGrimm wrote: I mean, a lot of the time when he all-ins it's a reaction to something he sees his opponent do. + Show Spoiler + Like seeing your opponent CC first on Metalopolis close spawns. IdrA isn't stupid, he knows that if he allins with ling/bane he'll just win, plain and simple. Not really a new style tbh just common sense really. His series against Socke is a good counter-example to this. He used aggressive play to win that series when in the past he just sits and macros. Yes I'm also sure he'd say it's only because Zerg is bad versus Protoss but maybe by accident he'll stumble on a winning formulae. Just look at Jaedong. His aggressive play is the backbone that allows him to out-macro his opponents. When he thinks his oppponent is weaker he doesn't sit back and give them the chance to all-in him he does two-hatch muta or some other aggressive timing. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On April 26 2011 03:22 Klive5ive wrote: His series against Socke is a good counter-example to this. He used aggressive play to win that series when in the past he just sits and macros. Yes I'm also sure he'd say it's only because Zerg is bad versus Protoss but maybe by accident he'll stumble on a winning formulae. Just look at Jaedong. His aggressive play is the backbone that allows him to out-macro his opponents. When he thinks his oppponent is weaker he doesn't sit back and give them the chance to all-in him he does two-hatch muta or some other aggressive timing. Yes he used aggressive play in that series, but both games he won were using blind counters which were very all-in. I wasn't a part of the Brood War scene (unfortunately  ) but from what I can tell in Brood War if you were aggressive without being allin, you were at least guaranteed some damage to your opponent, even if it wasn't cost efficient. In StarCraft 2 and especially in ZvP it doesn't seem like that's the case, simply because forcefields are such an incredibly powerful defensive tool. If you make units instead of drones, the only person you seem to hurt is yourself (unless your opponent is being aggressive, but we're talking about proactive aggression so what your opponent is doing doesn't matter).That said I've seen some interesting timings on IdrA's stream which contradict everything I just wrote: it seems like it might be possible to punish a Protoss who goes nexus->forge instead of forge->nexus by using aggression, and it looks like you'll at least be able to trade for some of the Toss army (sentry kills are amazing), delay the expo and also be safe from any nexus cancel bullshit (which means that you're not allin, since you delayed toss econ and killed some army which means you're safe to drone and possibly take a faster 3rd). And if the protoss goes forge->nexus then it's highly unlikely he'll be doing any nexus cancel business, which means that in the end we zergs don't have to worry about that ridiculous shit. | ||
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On April 26 2011 03:45 Leavzou wrote: What hapened to IdrA ? He did not stream for a while now ): He's on the US server right now, he hasn't been for the past couple of days so maybe that means he might stream soon? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Once you reach only 24 drones on 2 bases (excluding gas) already you lose mining efficiency and once you reach 30ish it's almost pointless to have more drones. So really at this point you need to take a third but of course with no units it's very risky. So switching over to full roach production at this point isn't as bad as you would think. Even if you don't do significant damage you can get your third up faster than the protoss and use a larvae inject to saturate it instantly. I expect we'll see 2base plays as sort of the equivalent to the old 2hatch muta. It's not standard but it's not particularly bad either and it's a great way to beat a player who's worse than you. | ||
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On April 26 2011 03:58 Klive5ive wrote: I don't think it's as all-in as you think because the economy of a Zerg is very un-linear. Once you reach only 24 drones on 2 bases (excluding gas) already you lose mining efficiency and once you reach 30ish it's almost pointless to have more drones. So really at this point you need to take a third but of course with no units it's very risky. So switching over to full roach production at this point isn't as bad as you would think. Even if you don't do significant damage you can get your third up faster than the protoss and use a larvae inject to saturate it instantly. I expect we'll see 2base plays as sort of the equivalent to the old 2hatch muta. It's not standard but it's not particularly bad either and it's a great way to beat a player who's worse than you. Yeah, the only worry of mine is that it either delays lair a lot if you make roaches before lair, or it delays the upgrades (tunneling claws, burrow, etc) that you need when lair finishes if you build roaches during lair morph, or it forces you to take a lot of gas so that you can roach and upgrade, and then you don't have enough to take a third. | ||
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Facedriller
Sweden275 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
Here is his twitter quote: I've restarted giving lessons http://bit.ly/eYH3bq . Have upped my rates as I have limited time with all the tournaments going right now. edit: will start streaming once the nasl rebroadcast is done, idrajit.tv #fb Everytime IdrA tweets, I get a text! | ||
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Himbeer
Switzerland176 Posts
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
On April 26 2011 05:01 moltenlead wrote: He now charges $300 / hr for coaching???? How many people actually pay that much lol. probably a few, and thats all he needs to pay for the raise | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 26 2011 05:01 coddan wrote: I love Idra's new 300$/hour coaching rate rofl yeah and sounds like he gets quiet a few jesus lol. good too see he's gonna stream soon :D | ||
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Qwix
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