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On April 03 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:10 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. As true as i would like that to be, Huk had 2 colossus and like 6-7 stalkers, at most. The replay should be up in a bit, you see for yourself. He had over 20 stalkers, 8 sentries, and 5 colossus are you fucking joking? Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:13 Jerax wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. Incorrect. http://i.imgur.com/Hnkzt.pngLike I said before, Idra had that game in the bag. 80 supply of that was drones. Huk had a bigger army left. In terms of tech. Huk was only 20 supply behind. IdrA was on zergling/broodlord, with no resources left.
I'm pretty sure he didnt had 20 stalkers, not even close, and huk also halluc 2-3 colossus.
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On April 03 2011 13:14 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:09 Lortab wrote:On April 03 2011 13:04 taLbuk wrote:On April 03 2011 12:55 Lortab wrote:
The fact is he should get a Penalty for his conduct, he should be disqualified. MLG Rules Gameplay 1. No Pausing a Game without Referee’s permission. If an issue arises that requires a Pause, Players should contact their Referee immediately. Referees may approve or deny a Player’s request to Pause the Game. Pausing a Game without Referee’s permission will result in a Warning. Each subsequent Warning that a Player receives will result in a Forfeit of the Game (See Gameplay Rule #18). 2. Players may not look at an opposing Player’s Monitor or projected screen. 3. Players may not chat in-game unless they are engaging in pre-game sportsmanship or surrendering the Game. 4. Players must disable Toast Notifications in the Battle.net options. 5. Players must set their status to Busy. 6. Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. According to your logic HuK broke the rules. Cool, then they both ff and regame, but in the re-game Idra should be dq'd and not allowed back next season, your idra adoring bias opinions dont mean much, i dont like either of them. Are you sweating hard at the anticipation of the possibility of trolling people? well if it helps you waste less of your time nobody is giving your posts a thought.
Easy way out for ignorant people with weak opinions is "Your a Troll" go somewhere mam. you obviously are giving plenty of thought to my opinions.
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I find it odd how after every match IdrA loses you get non-fans coming into this thread saying how he is bad for the community yet probably has the biggest draw of all foreign players. The largest and most popular fanclub, any poll that has him usually has the largest vote, websites that interview get 4 to 5 times the views of interviewing other people and the VODs that are casted with him in, they get a lot of attention... even more for the times when he doesn't enforce the arbitrary 'gg is a must' culture.
But the most important reason why he's good for Esports is... he's a fantastic player, arguably the best Zerg outside of Korea, involved with the community and a person who frequently shows how much StarCraft 2 matters to him.
People without personalities and predictable, boring, games are what's bad for Esports,
People who take the anti-IdrA debacle to his Fanclub each time he loses are what's bad for TL.
I'm looking forward to see IdrA play again, hopefully he has more than the Burrowed movement roaches as I'm surprised counters to that weren't made on Friday night once it was evident both Machine and IdrA were heavily using this style in the televised matches. If it continues to work, then that's fine.
I wish him good luck in competing tomorrow.
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Huk had 20 stalkers, they stayed on the end game screen for a bit, and you can see about 15 stalkers trying to run down the ramp and come around to get back in the fight, and 7 more stalkers almost right under the broodlords.
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On April 03 2011 13:19 hinnolinn wrote:
Huk had 20 stalkers, they stayed on the end game screen for a bit, and you can see about 15 stalkers trying to run down the ramp and come around to get back in the fight, and 7 more stalkers almost right under the broodlords.
15 +7 = 20! Go back to Elementary school
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I think he lost game 3 because he was supply blocked at inopportune times - he had 9 roaches and 9 in production when HuK arrived, and without being supply blocked earlier he could have had around 18 roaches by the time HuK's first FF's went down - dunno if he had the minerals to make the ovies earlier though, he was kind of broke due to the amount of gas he was getting.
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On April 03 2011 13:16 DDie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:On April 03 2011 13:10 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. As true as i would like that to be, Huk had 2 colossus and like 6-7 stalkers, at most. The replay should be up in a bit, you see for yourself. He had over 20 stalkers, 8 sentries, and 5 colossus are you fucking joking? On April 03 2011 13:13 Jerax wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. Incorrect. http://i.imgur.com/Hnkzt.pngLike I said before, Idra had that game in the bag. 80 supply of that was drones. Huk had a bigger army left. In terms of tech. Huk was only 20 supply behind. IdrA was on zergling/broodlord, with no resources left. I'm pretty sure he didnt had 20 stalkers, not even close, and huk also halluc 2-3 colossus.
Dude, forget it, this is the idra fan club. They're gonna ignore facts and reason even when its staring them in the face.
All I have to say about this match is that Idra played really freaking well until the end.
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On April 03 2011 12:55 Lortab wrote:
The fact is he should get a Penalty for his conduct, he should be disqualified.
On April 03 2011 13:17 Lortab wrote:
Easy way out for ignorant people with weak opinions is "Your a Troll" go somewhere mam. you obviously are giving plenty of thought to my opinions.
You mean your facts?
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On April 03 2011 13:09 Hotzenplotz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:53 iplat wrote:
Idra is exactly why E-Spjavascript:addUBB('url')orts isn't as big as it could be. His actions against HuK was a disappointment to the community. All of the hard work and professionalism that others try to exhibit are ruined by hot-headed unprofessional acts like what we saw on live stage. How do you think Stride gum or Dr. Pepper see the F Bomb being dropped when their name is all over the place. I bet they don't like it at all. You know what I dont like? The F bomb! You dont say the word, you make me think "ah.... he is talkin about FUCK"! If you cant name it, dont talk about it The rest of the Bullshit you wrote might not even be worth commentating, but since I might have had a beer or ten I can't leave my mouth shut. Go outside of your room, get into your car, leave your farm and drive to the next town which host a major sport event. Does not even matter what kind of sport, you will always find what is important to prove my point. Emotion! Everyone competing in a sports event SHOULD show emotions like disapointment and anger when loosing. Because there are people with the same emotions cheering for them. Of course this has its limits and "Fuck off" might not be the best way to show this emotional side, but you bet Huk was aiming for this kind of reaction. It was all a mind game! If you dont want to see your special "F-Bomb" to be dropt, then you should not be watching any sports events and rather read the bible!
So to sum up your post... because professional athletes in other sports swear and show emotion(which they do get punished for btw... check out the nfl with endzone celebrations and countless fines to players in every sport for bad sportsmanship) Idra should be given some immunity after swearing at a family event?(Yes it was provoked but still what HuK said wasn't that bad.) I came to this thread to say how bad I felt for Idra getting the shit end of the stick(and I do still feel bad for him) but posts like these remind me why I can never be a true Idra fan, because then I would be lumped together with ignorant biased idiots like you...*Edit: No offense meant to level headed Idra fans, it just seems you are sorely out numbered these days....*
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On April 03 2011 13:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:09 Hotzenplotz wrote:On April 03 2011 12:53 iplat wrote:
Idra is exactly why E-Spjavascript:addUBB('url')orts isn't as big as it could be. His actions against HuK was a disappointment to the community. All of the hard work and professionalism that others try to exhibit are ruined by hot-headed unprofessional acts like what we saw on live stage. How do you think Stride gum or Dr. Pepper see the F Bomb being dropped when their name is all over the place. I bet they don't like it at all. You know what I dont like? The F bomb! You dont say the word, you make me think "ah.... he is talkin about FUCK"! If you cant name it, dont talk about it The rest of the Bullshit you wrote might not even be worth commentating, but since I might have had a beer or ten I can't leave my mouth shut. Go outside of your room, get into your car, leave your farm and drive to the next town which host a major sport event. Does not even matter what kind of sport, you will always find what is important to prove my point. Emotion! Everyone competing in a sports event SHOULD show emotions like disapointment and anger when loosing. Because there are people with the same emotions cheering for them. Of course this has its limits and "Fuck off" might not be the best way to show this emotional side, but you bet Huk was aiming for this kind of reaction. It was all a mind game! If you dont want to see your special "F-Bomb" to be dropt, then you should not be watching any sports events and rather read the bible! So to sum up your post... because professional athletes in other sports swear and show emotion(which they do get punished for btw... check out the nfl with endzone celebrations and countless fines to players in every sport for bad sportsmanship) Idra should be given some immunity after swearing at a family event?(Yes it was provoked but still what HuK said wasn't that bad.) I came to this thread to say how bad I felt for Idra getting the shit end of the stick(and I do still feel bad for him) but posts like these remind me why I can never be a true Idra fan, because then I would be lumped together with ignorant biased idiots like you...
I dont think you have any idea how much players shit talk each other. The only time people get penalized is when they make a point to get in someone's face and constantly harass them while ignoring the ref's warnings.
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On April 03 2011 13:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:09 Hotzenplotz wrote:On April 03 2011 12:53 iplat wrote:
Idra is exactly why E-Spjavascript:addUBB('url')orts isn't as big as it could be. His actions against HuK was a disappointment to the community. All of the hard work and professionalism that others try to exhibit are ruined by hot-headed unprofessional acts like what we saw on live stage. How do you think Stride gum or Dr. Pepper see the F Bomb being dropped when their name is all over the place. I bet they don't like it at all. You know what I dont like? The F bomb! You dont say the word, you make me think "ah.... he is talkin about FUCK"! If you cant name it, dont talk about it The rest of the Bullshit you wrote might not even be worth commentating, but since I might have had a beer or ten I can't leave my mouth shut. Go outside of your room, get into your car, leave your farm and drive to the next town which host a major sport event. Does not even matter what kind of sport, you will always find what is important to prove my point. Emotion! Everyone competing in a sports event SHOULD show emotions like disapointment and anger when loosing. Because there are people with the same emotions cheering for them. Of course this has its limits and "Fuck off" might not be the best way to show this emotional side, but you bet Huk was aiming for this kind of reaction. It was all a mind game! If you dont want to see your special "F-Bomb" to be dropt, then you should not be watching any sports events and rather read the bible! So to sum up your post... because professional athletes in other sports swear and show emotion(which they do get punished for btw... check out the nfl with endzone celebrations and countless fines to players in every sport for bad sportsmanship) Idra should be given some immunity after swearing at a family event?(Yes it was provoked but still what HuK said wasn't that bad.) I came to this thread to say how bad I felt for Idra getting the shit end of the stick(and I do still feel bad for him) but posts like these remind me why I can never be a true Idra fan, because then I would be lumped together with ignorant biased idiots like you...
Jinro said fuck on live GSL -_-
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On April 03 2011 13:22 Jerax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:16 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:On April 03 2011 13:10 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. As true as i would like that to be, Huk had 2 colossus and like 6-7 stalkers, at most. The replay should be up in a bit, you see for yourself. He had over 20 stalkers, 8 sentries, and 5 colossus are you fucking joking? On April 03 2011 13:13 Jerax wrote:On April 03 2011 13:05 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 13:03 DDie wrote:On April 03 2011 12:50 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On April 03 2011 12:48 sambo400 wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> yeah, Zerg really sucks when leave games too early for no reason... I think MLG might have a talk with him about dropping the F bomb on the main stage. He should have gotten a technical or warning for that, but they never said if he did or not. I think Idra would greatly benefit from talking a little less and focusing entirely on himself and his gameplay. I don't think that Cruncher result would have happened if he hadn't insulted Cruncher in his interview. Yes, because we're actually playing PsychologyCraft 2. He left because he lost all his units and thus lost the game - he lost because he didn't have a seer. Talking shit is nothing new to IdrA, I really doubt it matters in his gameplay. Idra lost all his units? He had like 5 brood lords and a bunch of corruptors/ling when he left, more than enough to deal with Huk's army I, as a fellow zerg, really admire Idra, but its a fact, he panicked when he saw the void rays and ragequited, if he had stayed 3 more seconds in game he would've realized they weren't doing any damage, and would've rolled over Huk. Well I don't have the replay to look at unfortunately, but afaik HuK had enough stalkers that he could blink and pick off the broods, and enough colossi that lings and corruptors wouldn't matter. Incorrect. http://i.imgur.com/Hnkzt.pngLike I said before, Idra had that game in the bag. 80 supply of that was drones. Huk had a bigger army left. In terms of tech. Huk was only 20 supply behind. IdrA was on zergling/broodlord, with no resources left. I'm pretty sure he didnt had 20 stalkers, not even close, and huk also halluc 2-3 colossus. Dude, forget it, this is the idra fan club. They're gonna ignore facts and reason even when its staring them in the face. All I have to say about this match is that Idra played really freaking well until the end.
Thanks for being a jackass, but at the moment no one has fact till the replay gets released. Could have been 20 Stalker, 10, 5. We don't know, because everyone is saying something else. Obviously everyone is pondering about the situation because it seems weird to leave the game when the void ray attack your units and do no damage. Maybe, just maybe there was something else he left the game for? But that's just it we don't know. I for one would like to see the replay, to know exactly how many units each player had and then test it out in the unit tester. I do think that IdrA had the advantage with that unit comp but I'm not sure HuK was completely out of it as well.
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So besides all this useless arguing, does anyone know where IdrA will be placed in the loser's bracket?
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Yup. This is his bracket tree.
round 3 - QXC vs. .....
round 4 - HuK vs. .....
round 5 - Ret vs. ......
round 6 - IdrA vs. .....
He plays the winner of Drewbie vs. Opponent the round after.
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On April 03 2011 13:20 Hotzenplotz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 13:19 hinnolinn wrote:
Huk had 20 stalkers, they stayed on the end game screen for a bit, and you can see about 15 stalkers trying to run down the ramp and come around to get back in the fight, and 7 more stalkers almost right under the broodlords. 15 +7 = 20! Go back to Elementary school
15 + 7 doesn't equal 20 factorial. Go back to middle school. Sorry, perhaps I should have said "at least 20", or perhaps i should have emphasized the "ABOUT 15" in my post. Either way, there were many more then 7 stalkers remaining.
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On April 03 2011 12:41 MonsieurGrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 12:38 Grease wrote:On April 03 2011 12:34 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
IdrA outplayed the shit out of HuK in game 2 then lost 22 minutes of stellar play by not making an Overseer. Fucking zerg is so fragile it isn't funny. >.> How is Zerg so fragile when he was clearly winning the battles. HE ragedquit because his anger gets the best of him. Like Incontrol said before he needs to keep on fighting and not quit. HE LOST BECAUSE OF HIS WEAK MINDSET not because of the army composition. not to mention he could of Neutral 1-2collous with the swarms of speedling/corruptor.. He just quit on himself He had lost the game, unless HuK made an uncharacteristic mistake. All of his brood lords, corruptors, and lings and blings and infestors died without doing much damage. He lost because of one small mistake - almost never happens to protoss or terran.
you are a fool to even think this. IDRA HAD THE GAME HE LOST BECAUSE HE THOUGHT VOIDS were out on the field... The guy had over 20speelings and 2retreating full energy festors with what 8broods and 7corruptors? not to mention still mining bases. Just simple IDRA getting too angry and quitting before the game is over. HE LOST because of his attitude. Had nothing to do with HuK having an army advantage because he didnt. Half of his stalkers were coming down ramp. enough time to para two collous and have them attack the stalkers while he had them. Simple MIND fucking won HuK the game
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I'm watching the VOD at the moment, the point before the last battle and I'm counting this at the moment.
1 Hallucinated Colossus,
5 Hallucinated Void Ray's
6 REAL Colossus.
Edit: 15 Stalkers.
Edit: 8 Sentries + 1 Immortal
Counting the rest.
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Sign me up
cant believe i didnt do this ages ago
ive beent he #1 IdrA fan since broodwar
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I'm sorry, I was incorrect, there weren't 20 stalkers, there were only 16 stalkers, and 6 collosi, an immortal and 8 sentries. Still a strong force.
I have no opinion about which way it would go if they fought it out. Would have been fun to watch.
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