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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 18 2013 17:51 GMT
#54001
On January 19 2013 01:35 Sedzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:24 Forikorder wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.

stephano is mechanically weak (relatively) player so IdrAs mechanics are better definently


I would argue Stephano is mechanically stronger. Decision making doesn't win you the amount of prize money he has won.


WCS Idra vs Stephano argues Idra has better mechanics.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:01:34
January 18 2013 17:56 GMT
#54002
On January 19 2013 02:51 NEOtheONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:35 Sedzz wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:24 Forikorder wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.

stephano is mechanically weak (relatively) player so IdrAs mechanics are better definently


I would argue Stephano is mechanically stronger. Decision making doesn't win you the amount of prize money he has won.


WCS Idra vs Stephano argues Idra has better mechanics.


One best of three of the most volatile matchup argues that?
Okay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a really fucking huge IdrA fan, I'm not gloating here but I've followed IdrA pretty much since the beta and no matter what time, I always stay up to watch his stream (it's really early hours for a west australian) and tournaments, but to be completely serious, currently I don't think he is better than Stephano, perhaps in ZvZ yeah, but not overall. Oh, and I'm not one of those suck up fans either which is precisely why I hold this opinion.
Dreqt
Profile Joined February 2012
Portugal37 Posts
January 18 2013 18:07 GMT
#54003
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.
"Apologize for playing that race." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 18 2013 18:21 GMT
#54004
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
January 18 2013 18:23 GMT
#54005
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


I pretty much agree with this. Aocowns such a voice of reason ^_^
Dreqt
Profile Joined February 2012
Portugal37 Posts
January 18 2013 18:30 GMT
#54006
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.
"Apologize for playing that race." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:49:35
January 18 2013 18:44 GMT
#54007
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
January 18 2013 18:46 GMT
#54008
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.

Dreqt
Profile Joined February 2012
Portugal37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 18:57:31
January 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#54009
On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.



I never meantioned "builds" again, learn to read. I said whatever he chooses to do, he executes it near to perfection. He may go Roach Hydra against protoss, he makes it work. Roach Hydra against Terran, he makes it work. I never meantioned builds. You don't need good macro to execute builds either.
"Apologize for playing that race." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Dreqt
Profile Joined February 2012
Portugal37 Posts
January 18 2013 18:57 GMT
#54010
On January 19 2013 03:44 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr


You say that I think i'm 100% correct. That is correct based on what my conception of proper macro and proper play is. It's an opinion. Everything everyone has been saying is their opinion. I'm purely stating mine. You're welcome to disagree, but you keep putting words in my mouth that have not come out of it, so stop it. One thing is saying outrageous things like stephano's macro is better than IdrA's, when it's well known that it is not. I exagerated when I said Stephano's macro was horrible, but inside of the pro scene, it is quite bad.
"Apologize for playing that race." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 18 2013 18:59 GMT
#54011
On January 19 2013 03:53 Dreqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.



I never meantioned "builds" again, learn to read. I said whatever he chooses to do, he executes it near to perfection. He may go Roach Hydra against protoss, he makes it work. Roach Hydra against protoss, he makes it work. I never meantioned builds. You don't need good macro to execute builds either.

You need good mechanics to execute something to near perfection in high level, fast paced game. You said Stephano had horrible mechanics. Despite Lefaa not using the 100% correct term ''builds'' you are still contradicting yourself, and you're digging yourself further and further down into the shit, just to let you know
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#54012
On January 19 2013 03:57 Dreqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:44 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr


You say that I think i'm 100% correct. That is correct based on what my conception of proper macro and proper play is. It's an opinion. Everything everyone has been saying is their opinion. I'm purely stating mine. You're welcome to disagree, but you keep putting words in my mouth that have not come out of it, so stop it. One thing is saying outrageous things like stephano's macro is better than IdrA's, when it's well known that it is not. I exagerated when I said Stephano's macro was horrible, but inside of the pro scene, it is quite bad.

My main point was that you said you were correcting Gnome. So you're correcting him with your OPINIONS? Take a moment, and consider what's wrong with that.

I'm sorry, please point out where I put words in your mouth, I'm sure I didn't mean to
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
January 19 2013 02:43 GMT
#54013
This just in;

You don't need good mechanics to execute 'whatever you want to do' near perfectly.

Thanks Dreqt, Bronze Hope.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
January 19 2013 02:56 GMT
#54014
last 2 pages in twitch tv chat speak

say 1 if you think idra > stephano
say 2 if you think stephano > idra

winterfell: 1
The_Templar: major??
2muchswag: 1
forikorder: idra > slasher
hellburn: ^this
zzkaekzz: slasher??
erw: lol major
emngiantnome: 2
forikorder: 1
sedzz: 2
emngiantnome: 1
lefaa: 1
forikorder: 2
erw: idra=stephano
neotheone: 1
sedzz: 2
dreqt: 1
aocowns: 2
sedzz: ^this
dreqt: 2
aocowns: 2
lefaa: 3
dreqt: 2
dreqt: 1
This room is in slow mode.
aocown: 2
aocown: this chat makes me lose faith in humanity
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
EmNGiantNome
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States126 Posts
January 19 2013 03:22 GMT
#54015
On January 19 2013 04:00 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 03:57 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:44 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
[quote]
Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr


You say that I think i'm 100% correct. That is correct based on what my conception of proper macro and proper play is. It's an opinion. Everything everyone has been saying is their opinion. I'm purely stating mine. You're welcome to disagree, but you keep putting words in my mouth that have not come out of it, so stop it. One thing is saying outrageous things like stephano's macro is better than IdrA's, when it's well known that it is not. I exagerated when I said Stephano's macro was horrible, but inside of the pro scene, it is quite bad.

My main point was that you said you were correcting Gnome. So you're correcting him with your OPINIONS? Take a moment, and consider what's wrong with that.

I'm sorry, please point out where I put words in your mouth, I'm sure I didn't mean to


<3 IdrAs #1 fan
Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
January 19 2013 04:34 GMT
#54016
On January 19 2013 12:22 EmNGiantNome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 04:00 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:57 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:44 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
[quote]
Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
[quote]
Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr


You say that I think i'm 100% correct. That is correct based on what my conception of proper macro and proper play is. It's an opinion. Everything everyone has been saying is their opinion. I'm purely stating mine. You're welcome to disagree, but you keep putting words in my mouth that have not come out of it, so stop it. One thing is saying outrageous things like stephano's macro is better than IdrA's, when it's well known that it is not. I exagerated when I said Stephano's macro was horrible, but inside of the pro scene, it is quite bad.

My main point was that you said you were correcting Gnome. So you're correcting him with your OPINIONS? Take a moment, and consider what's wrong with that.

I'm sorry, please point out where I put words in your mouth, I'm sure I didn't mean to


<3 IdrAs #1 fan

Wasn't Whole IdrA's #1 fan?
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
January 19 2013 04:51 GMT
#54017
On January 19 2013 13:34 Omnidroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 12:22 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 19 2013 04:00 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:57 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:44 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:30 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
[quote]

YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me


Remind me again, when did I say that IdrA was better than Stephano?
First of all, learn to read.
Second of all, I'm not arguing anything, I was correcting EmNGiantNome. Idra's mechanics are a lot better than Stephano's, period. You cannot argument that, at all.
So please, think before you post.

Oh, I'm so sorry for thinking that the fact that you basically talked down on several aspects of Stephano's play while stroking Idra's play mean you believed Idra was better. Why would I EVER assume something like that because of what you wrote.

Correcting would mean you were 100% right, but you are not. ''Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible''. That's not a fact, that's ignorant

So please, stop implying that what you say is 100% correct, I seriously doubt you're qualified to analyze and decide which is better so effortlessly, based on a few games you've seen from each player

On January 19 2013 03:46 Lefaa wrote:
On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
[quote]
Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player,


So you are saying stephano executes his builds nearly perfectly with bad mechanics and questionable decisionmaking? That sounds like near perfection.


That's a nice contradiction, thanks for pointing it out Lefaa
So please, learn to argue before you post hurr durr


You say that I think i'm 100% correct. That is correct based on what my conception of proper macro and proper play is. It's an opinion. Everything everyone has been saying is their opinion. I'm purely stating mine. You're welcome to disagree, but you keep putting words in my mouth that have not come out of it, so stop it. One thing is saying outrageous things like stephano's macro is better than IdrA's, when it's well known that it is not. I exagerated when I said Stephano's macro was horrible, but inside of the pro scene, it is quite bad.

My main point was that you said you were correcting Gnome. So you're correcting him with your OPINIONS? Take a moment, and consider what's wrong with that.

I'm sorry, please point out where I put words in your mouth, I'm sure I didn't mean to


<3 IdrAs #1 fan

Wasn't Whole IdrA's #1 fan?


Whole got a girlfriend then died, then passed the honor onto aocowns.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#54018
On January 19 2013 03:21 Aocowns wrote:
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On January 19 2013 03:07 Dreqt wrote:
On January 19 2013 01:18 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:26 2muchSWAG wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:12 The_Templar wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 18 2013 08:23 2muchSWAG wrote:
Can't wait to see Idra, aka best foreign mechanics, dominate in hots. I think his wol skills will translate to hots perfectly and he will once again be a top 5 foreigner for the (assumed) 3 years that hots will be alive. i even think he will continue being a top 5 foreigner when lotv comes out.

Major has better mechanics then idra

Post it in the Major fanclub then.


YES!!! Someone agrees with me that Idra a top 5, probably the best foreigner and will make a strong comeback in hots! everyone knows he has better mechanics, decision making, multitasking, and micro than any other foreign player out there, yes that includes the likes of stephano or vortix or scarlett.

He didn't get a GSL Code S Ro8 for nothing.


Let me preface this by saying that IdrA is my favorite player. However he does not have better decision making than Stephano. The rest can be argued. He is better than Vortix and Scarlett but as far as his current decision making is concerned he cannot compete with Stephano. Mechanics are probably comparable.


You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Stephano's macro is horrible. Why do you think he gets so many macro hatcheries every game. His injects are horrible. He's mentioned it in the past, it's a major flaw in his play, everyone knows it and everyone's fine with it. His decision making is questionable. Greg has mentioned it before, it's impossible to learn anything by watching Stephano play, he does random stuff without any scouting information. He's a very controversial player for that fact. Despite whatever he chooses to do, he executes it nearly perfectly. That's what makes him such a great player, he works with what he has really well. Greg is a whole different player. Comparing both is like comparing football to basketball. Last encounter IdrA won with superior decision making and overall macro.

That's why Idra walks away with all these thournaments and Stephano doesn't right, because he's on such a different level compared to Stephano.

This discussion is kind of ridicolous imo >__< I think Stephano is obviously better than Idra overall, as proven by his results, whereas Idra's ZvZ is stronger. I also think Stephano has slightly better mechanics than Idra, but that the gap is not even close to big enough to matter or have much impact on anything it seems to me

saying that someone has better mechanics does not in any way mean there a better player

just look at NesTea
InfectedGoat
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada444 Posts
January 19 2013 06:24 GMT
#54019
IdrA has been my fav player for the past 2 years and I really like his play but we cant even begin to compare him with Stephano... Yes he beat him at the WCS event but it's ZvZ, the match up where anything can up, he himself said it. Anyway, I hope IdrA practices a lot and owns everybody at Hots
and i was like BANELINGS x 3
ZzKaelzZ
Profile Joined October 2012
51 Posts
January 19 2013 09:14 GMT
#54020
noone interested in telling the story about IdrA vs. Slasher? :-(
Idra <3 Leenock <3 DRG <3 Symbol <3 JYP <3 Life <3 HuK <3
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