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brad drac
Ireland202 Posts
On August 08 2010 20:54 Souma wrote: "I wouldnt play Terran cuz i have selfrespect" - IdrA Says the player who picked zerg when they had 2 armour 1 supply roaches with godmode regen, which he subsequently (ab)used as his main unit in all matchups until they were made more balanced(not that they're perfect now, mind). | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On August 09 2010 11:58 brad drac wrote: Says the player who picked zerg when they had 2 armour 1 supply roaches with godmode regen, which he subsequently (ab)used as his main unit in all matchups until they were made more balanced(not that they're perfect now, mind). He picked zerg because they have the highest skill ceiling for macro players. It's pretty obviously the race that best fits idras playstyle. | ||
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brad drac
Ireland202 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:02 Bosu wrote: He picked zerg because they have the highest skill ceiling for macro players. It's pretty obviously the race that best fits idras playstyle. Lies and falsities. I think zerg macro is probably the easiest to master for high skill players with good gamesense. Only having to worry about one unit production building is such a huge boon once you're runnng off more than 2 bases. Keeping up with your building and unit production, especially with all the different cominations of buildings with tech labs/reactors makes terran far harder to manage late game. I kind of wish idra did play terran. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to keep up with all that stuff while still maintaining enough aggression. I'm not being facetious here by the way, there isn't a terran out there yet with mechanics as good as idra. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:14 brad drac wrote: Lies and falsities. I think zerg macro is probably the easiest to master for high skill players with good gamesense. Only having to worry about one unit production building is such a huge boon once you're runnng off more than 2 bases. Keeping up with your building and unit production, especially with all the different cominations of buildings with tech labs/reactors makes terran far harder to manage late game. I kind of wish idra did play terran. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to keep up with all that stuff while still maintaining enough aggression. I'm not being facetious here by the way, there isn't a terran out there yet with mechanics as good as idra. This has got to be a complete joke. I play terran as my main. Tabbing between production buildings is not hard. | ||
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:14 brad drac wrote:Lies and falsities. I think zerg macro is probably the easiest to master for high skill players with good gamesense. I love how noobs keep giving advice to pro players. Yeah, easiest - "oh noes, I forgot to cast a mule, let me call down 20 of them." | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:14 brad drac wrote: Lies and falsities. I think zerg macro is probably the easiest to master for high skill players with good gamesense. Only having to worry about one unit production building is such a huge boon once you're runnng off more than 2 bases. Keeping up with your building and unit production, especially with all the different cominations of buildings with tech labs/reactors makes terran far harder to manage late game. I kind of wish idra did play terran. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to keep up with all that stuff while still maintaining enough aggression. I'm not being facetious here by the way, there isn't a terran out there yet with mechanics as good as idra. With multiple building select, having hatcheries or multiple buildings is really not much different. OMG, you have to press tab a few times to make a production cycle. Zerg Macro is the hardest to get the most out of. We have the least forgiving mechanic. You can't come back from a missed Spawn Larva. If you miss a MULE as Terran, you can just drop 2 at the same time and nothing was lost. It balanced out because Terran has the worst mechanic while Zerg has the strongest. But it is still harder as Zerg. We need to time stuff. IdrA is good because he tries to squeeze out every single drone possible. If you try to play this risky, 4 Drones or 4 Roaches/4 Hydralisks/8 Zerglings can be the difference between losing and defending a push. If IdrA drones one production cycle too much, he ends up losing. But if you time it so that your units will come out right when their push hits, you can hold off a strong attack and maintain a great economy. Playing as risky as IdrA requires a ton of game sense, and when you pull it off, it is extremely rewarding. | ||
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:27 Whole wrote:But if you time it so that your units will come out right when their push hits, you can hold off a strong attack and maintain a great economy. Playing as risky as IdrA requires a ton of game sense, and when you pull it off, it is extremely rewarding. Damn, right. That feels awesome even at a noob level.  | ||
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hadoken5
Canada519 Posts
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brad drac
Ireland202 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:24 Oleksandr wrote: I love how noobs keep giving advice to pro players. Yeah, easiest - "oh noes, I forgot to cast a mule, let me call down 20 of them." I'm not giving advice, just stating my opinion based on what I've seen. I agree that I'm a noob. Frankly, I'm a dreadful player. I didn't just mean queuing up units though. Finding time and space to build the right structures and enough, including supply depots is something I struggle with a hell of a lot late game. Maybe you find it easy, I don't. My reasoning behind this is that considering terran units are so strong, if unwieldy, why haven't there been any pro terran players that idra thinks are actually good? I think it's because most other players are struggling with this too. If you disagree, I would like to know why. And c'mon now, did you really think I was talking about mules? Mule = free minreals, easy as. As for what I said about zerg, note where I said high skill and good gamesense. When a player has enough games under their belt, they'll tend to know when it's safe to drone and when to expect pushes. I think that sense is one of the cores of idra's strength, and once a player gets it, as long as they keep on top of how the metagame evolves, it's just something they just have. It's also why unexpected cheese can fuck idra over so hard but you can't win 'em all. There is also a solution to missed larva injects too; plonking down another hatch in your main. It's inelegant, certainly, and many may look down on it, but it is a solution if you have more minerals than larva to spend them on, and it's a place to dump extra queen energy too. Not quite as nice as free minerals, but midgame mineral surplus does seem to be common for zergs anyway. Let me reiterate again, I don't claim superiority to anyone and if you can explain to me the reasons I am wrong, I will consider it a favour. If, however, you just want to call me a noob and blindly disregard my opinions as worthless, I invite you to masticate upon my rectum. Just because I'm a bad player doesn't mean I don't know how the game works. | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
He's good, but he's not even remotely close to as good as he thinks he is. I'd say he's one of the best at some parts of the game, but he's far from a complete player, and I think he could improve in a lot of areas, such as micro, and being more unpredictable etc. With that said, I'm not a fan of him, but I think he's extremely good at some things, and everyone can learn a lot from him. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Evolve
Canada63 Posts
On August 09 2010 12:14 brad drac wrote: Lies and falsities. I think zerg macro is probably the easiest to master for high skill players with good gamesense. Only having to worry about one unit production building is such a huge boon once you're runnng off more than 2 bases. Keeping up with your building and unit production, especially with all the different cominations of buildings with tech labs/reactors makes terran far harder to manage late game. I kind of wish idra did play terran. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to keep up with all that stuff while still maintaining enough aggression. I'm not being facetious here by the way, there isn't a terran out there yet with mechanics as good as idra. Um wut? He played Terran in BW... which is way harder to manage than sc2... | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On August 09 2010 15:04 Bosu wrote: How unpredictable can you be as a zerg player? Idra does occasionally go for mutas and drop. And because he rarely does it it does take people like tester in the day9 event off guard. What else does zerg have up their sleeve to go crazy? You count them on one hand 1. Burrow (Do roaches/infestors get a seperate digit?) 2. Nydus/drop (essentially the same if you think about it, although nydus can be generally more mobile and drops are more spontaneous. 3. Creep (hide tech, vision and zerg mobility) 4. Banelings (Very cool unit with tons of potential, but relatively hard to make effective later on without really smooth play) 5. hmmm Im going to say tactics in general, because of how the zerg army now has to be really properly posisitions to be extremely effective. Neural parasite and fungal are included imo, because you can really stop a terran 200/200 mech with enough infestors, a large open space or high ground, and proper placement. Id list the other races, but i want to go to bed. | ||
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
- don't know who invented the phrase originally, but sounds so perfect.On August 02 2010 12:14 IdrA wrote: This is classic, has to remain.zerg is absolutely awful Overall, I must say I enjoy and appreciate IdrA's play style, which is more subtle than it seems. It's actually very admirable as zerg to be able to get away with making just drones for so long within the game. Requires deep understanding and predictions of the other two races as well. Maybe IdrA has to work a bit more on scouting and on harassing though. Sometimes after setting a good economy, his large army seems to be wasted too easily. | ||
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
go idra go! | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:19 Me1234 wrote: I really hope he qualifies for IEM, for some reason he hasnt been so successful in the two qualifiers go idra go! same! IDRA FAITIIIING! | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:22 Megalisk wrote: Lol haters should get the fuck out this is the IDRA FANCLUB THREAD Keep on keepin' on my nigga This isn't the "talk down on idra for every thing he has ever said thread", take it somewhere else ya'll. | ||
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Arbalest
Canada25 Posts
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