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On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research...
I don't think esports is seen as targeting children to be honest. In my opinion every sponsor currently in the scene (monster, kingston, razor, steel series etc etc.) Is in the scene because esports has the same target audience as they do, which is 16-25 year old males. You can ofcourse add a few years on either end, but I would say 80% of viewers are in the age range.
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On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer.
^ This, you wouldn't have the casters giving shout outs to barcrafts (and encouraging people to check them out) multiple times each tournament if esports was targeting children.
People are trying to push the fact that esports is something you can go out and watch with your friends, in some cases enjoy a beer/wine/whatever you drink while your at it. Like how some people might meet up at a friends place, or a bar and "watch the game" (or go to the actual game/event itself if its close enough).
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"doing a @raidcall Q/A in a few minutes. download at http://raidcall.com and go to channel id 9000" from twitter. It's like a privat show. There are 39 guys in this channel :D
E: IdrA's micro is really bad. Well it's more the quality of raidcall. He sounds mutch better in this inside the game thingy.
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On October 12 2012 11:22 6BiT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. ^ This, you wouldn't have the casters giving shout outs to barcrafts (and encouraging people to check them out) multiple times each tournament if esports was targeting children. People are trying to push the fact that esports is something you can go out and watch with your friends, in some cases enjoy a beer/wine/whatever you drink while your at it. Like how some people might meet up at a friends place, or a bar and "watch the game" (or go to the actual game/event itself if its close enough).
Good point on the barcraft shout outs. SoTG used to give major shoutouts to Alaskan Distilleries as well.
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On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships.
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On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships.
if it was cigarette company.... then maybe but not really
people dont hate the alchohol industry people love alcohol you hear alcohol commercials all over the place, noone cares what the alcohol company does as long as they stick "please drink responsibly" on it
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is there a vod of tonights raidcall?
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On October 10 2012 10:00 Chewbacca. wrote:When he entered the game his opponent asked him if he was the "real Idra or hacker Idra". Idra said he was the hacker then his opponent started talking to him as if they knew each other and mentioned some other guy named "Ian", who I guess is a hacker as well. The protoss was clearly maphacking, 3 pylon/cannon contained Idra, and still got raped. The game is at around 2:48:00 in the most recent stream vod.
that was the best thing i've seen in a long time
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On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships.
NASCAR is sponsored by Coors Light.
Edit: Seems like you're talking specifically about EA not using alcohol sponsorships in their NASCAR game? I don't see why that would be relevant though. Its not like Coors sponsors the EA gaming company. But they do sponsor sports teams and sports associations.
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On October 12 2012 15:36 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships. NASCAR is sponsored by Coors Light. Edit: Seems like you're talking specifically about EA not using alcohol sponsorships in their NASCAR game? I don't see why that would be relevant though. Its not like Coors sponsors the EA gaming company. But they do sponsor sports teams and sports associations. It's an example of how alcohol sponsors and gaming companies tend to stay away from each other. Like it or not, to the general public a SC2 tournament isn't "eSports", it's a "game".
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On October 12 2012 17:01 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 15:36 Angelbelow wrote:On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships. NASCAR is sponsored by Coors Light. Edit: Seems like you're talking specifically about EA not using alcohol sponsorships in their NASCAR game? I don't see why that would be relevant though. Its not like Coors sponsors the EA gaming company. But they do sponsor sports teams and sports associations. It's an example of how alcohol sponsors and gaming companies tend to stay away from each other. Like it or not, to the general public a SC2 tournament isn't "eSports", it's a "game".
To the general public it's a "game" that's come and gone, until HotS anyway. Almost everyone else who has stayed know it as an eSport.
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On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships.
This game has a rating.
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On October 12 2012 09:19 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 08:58 Rho_ wrote:On October 12 2012 06:07 S_SienZ wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. Wasn't Liverpool sponsored by Carlsberg for the longest time? Yes. Chang Beer currently sponsors Everton. Alcohol is one of the major sponsors of most US sports (through direct sponsorship and/or advertising). Indeed, though no one has ever heard of or drinks Chang Beer.
Chang Beer is a thai beer. and It's very popular in Asia, Guess what is also popular in asia? English premier league, that's why they sponsor Everton!
It's a good beer to drink in Thailand, in europe we have better.
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On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships.
i really think your overthinking this, and who cares if some people are unhappy if a video game is getting money from a beer company. They don't do anything for esports and will find a way to write about something to tarnish what i love. all that matters is a team is getting money, and some people who enjoy beer may try something new that they might like.
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On October 12 2012 19:43 conut wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships. i really think your overthinking this, and who cares if some people are unhappy if a video game is getting money from a beer company. They don't do anything for esports and will find a way to write about something to tarnish what i love. all that matters is a team is getting money, and some people who enjoy beer may try something new that they might like.
Couldn't agree more, I really think Jinro Soju should have sponsored Team Liquid
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On October 12 2012 17:01 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 15:36 Angelbelow wrote:On October 12 2012 13:49 bduddy wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 conut wrote:On October 12 2012 10:42 bduddy wrote:On October 11 2012 16:48 Angelbelow wrote:On October 11 2012 07:59 Larkin wrote:
Isn't Shock Top beer? I imagine there'd be a shitstorm of sorts for an alcoholic beverage to sponsor a "sports" team, there usually is. In the US, alcoholic beverage sponsors are quite popular and ordinary. Budweiser/Bud Light sponsors the NBA (national basketball association) and the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship). Additionally, Bud Light also sponsors the professional basketball team, Los Angeles Lakers. This is true... in fact, there's a lot more alcohol sponsorship even than what you're mentioning. The main issue I see with this is that esports is seen as mostly targeting children (even more then sports, regardless whether that is actually true or not) and a very significant number of players are underage. I doubt there are any legal issues, but any team who wants an alcohol sponsor should be careful. Something I just thought of: EA and Activision have for a long time removed real-life alcohol and tobacco sponsors from their NASCAR games. I don't know if they're doing that because they had to or they were just being safe, but esports teams need to do their research... Esports isn't targeting children.... Esports is directed at college and university students. who drink beer. I know that, I'm just talking about what the widespread perception is. Just imagine an article in some newspaper or on some local evening news show that starts something like "Alcohol company sponsors video game tournament...", although with pictures of Creator and some local middle-schooler playing. You could say the same thing about NASCAR games, actually from my experience NASCAR fans are a lot older on average than SC2 fans, and they've avoided alcohol sponsorships. NASCAR is sponsored by Coors Light. Edit: Seems like you're talking specifically about EA not using alcohol sponsorships in their NASCAR game? I don't see why that would be relevant though. Its not like Coors sponsors the EA gaming company. But they do sponsor sports teams and sports associations. It's an example of how alcohol sponsors and gaming companies tend to stay away from each other. Like it or not, to the general public a SC2 tournament isn't "eSports", it's a "game".
That doesn't make any sense. Alcohol sponsorships wouldn't be sponsoring the game or the gaming company. What does the public perception of a SC2 tournament have to do with alcoholic beverage companies sponsoring a team or a tournament?
And again, someone else mentioned this a few posts above ours, but the tournaments shout out barcrafts all the time. There are even tournaments like Homestory cup where players are drunk while casting, yet its one of the most popular.
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Freaking awesome ZvZ against Violet. Really well played.
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Loved the zergling runbys in that ZvT on Entombed
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