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							Whole
							
							
						 
						United States6046 Posts
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							illuminos
							
							
						 
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							nazR
							
							
						 
						France158 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 05:02 Forikorder wrote: i think he leaves showmatchs becuase they dont really matter i think he plays more for the fame of winning big tournaments and showing how good he is then just for cash No he 6pooled the 2 games in the showmatch because Alive was cheesing/all-ining him every game so the game wouldn't have been entertaining anyway. So it's quite the contrary | ||
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							Azarkon
							
							
						 
						United States21060 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 05:15 illuminos wrote: Why does IdrA dislike inori so much? Well - you see, he's Protoss, and likes to do cheesy two-base all-ins. | ||
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							nazR
							
							
						 
						France158 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 05:36 Azarkon wrote: He's Protoss, and likes to do cheesy two-base all-ins. And he kicked out Stephano (with 2 base all-ins) who is far better and should have won according Idra | ||
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							T0F4sT
							
							
						 
						Netherlands317 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 05:37 nazR wrote: And he kicked out Stephano (with 2 base all-ins) who is far better and should have won according Idra And he is french canadian.. oh wait.. | ||
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							FilthyLucre
							
							
						 
						Germany108 Posts
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							Forikorder
							
							
						 
						Canada8840 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 05:37 nazR wrote: And he kicked out Stephano (with 2 base all-ins) who is far better and should have won according Idra according to everyone everyone who knows anything about the SC2 scene knows that Stephano losing that series is one of the biggest upsets in history | ||
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							Incognoto
							
							
						 
						France10239 Posts
						 Stephano's good for sure but even he isn't invincible against all-ins. Idra winning vs Inori is imo a bigger upset than Stephano losing to him. | ||
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							Megabuster123
							
							
						 
						Canada1837 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 06:20 Incognoto wrote: Well it's hard to say upset when it's ZvP and the P is Korean... unless you're DRG. Stephano's good for sure but even he isn't invincible against all-ins. Idra winning vs Inori is imo a bigger upset than Stephano losing to him. Not really. Idra doesn't die to 2 base protoss all-ins that much anymore. He just loses afterwards when he responds incorrectly to his advantage. Stephano's style is supposed to be impervious to builds like the 6 gate and dt rushing because it's so safe. Not to mention Stephano has destroyed way better PvZers than Inori who's PvZ leaves a lot to be desired. | ||
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							Morrisson
							
							
						 
						289 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 06:24 Megabuster123 wrote: Not really. Idra doesn't die to 2 base protoss all-ins that much anymore. He just loses afterwards when he responds incorrectly to his advantage. Stephano's style is supposed to be impervious to builds like the 6 gate and dt rushing because it's so safe. Not to mention Stephano has destroyed way better PvZers than Inori who's PvZ leaves a lot to be desired. This. Stephano 4-0'ed JYP a day or two before the tournament. | ||
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							Azarkon
							
							
						 
						United States21060 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 06:24 Megabuster123 wrote: Not really. Idra doesn't die to 2 base protoss all-ins that much anymore. He just loses afterwards when he responds incorrectly to his advantage. Stephano's style is supposed to be impervious to builds like the 6 gate and dt rushing because it's so safe. Not to mention Stephano has destroyed way better PvZers than Inori who's PvZ leaves a lot to be desired. Stephano's style is impervious to the safe variation of two base all-ins, where you go forge first and do not skimp on cannons. Inori played nexus first to hit a better timing. He took a gamble and it paid off. | ||
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							Forikorder
							
							
						 
						Canada8840 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 07:41 Azarkon wrote: Stephano's style is impervious to the safe variation of two base all-ins, where you go forge first and do not skimp on cannons. Inori played nexus first to hit a better timing. He took a gamble and it paid off. stephano should mix in some early pools so people cant take advantage of it like that | ||
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							Mr Showtime
							
							
						 
						United States1353 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 07:44 Forikorder wrote: stephano should mix in some early pools so people cant take advantage of it like that If they don't take that risk, you lose. | ||
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							Forikorder
							
							
						 
						Canada8840 Posts
						 not really, even the safest way to FFE means you get to kill there forge and pylon and force a cannon in there mineral line when you take your 6 lings back to your base and expand and be perfectly fine | ||
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							CeriseCherries
							
							
						 
						6170 Posts
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							RUS RO DAH!!!
							
							
						 
						United States277 Posts
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							Forikorder
							
							
						 
						Canada8840 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 09:49 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: Idra talks way too fast in interviews as if he's afraid someone is going to interrupt him. thats jsut how he talks | ||
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							Mr Showtime
							
							
						 
						United States1353 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 08:22 Forikorder wrote: not really, even the safest way to FFE means you get to kill there forge and pylon and force a cannon in there mineral line when you take your 6 lings back to your base and expand and be perfectly fine At lower levels, no, it's not over. But against a top level protoss who is going to do a 2 base all-in, yes, it's pretty much over. I don't mean quit at that point. There is still ample opportunity for them to fuck it up. But the timing window is so tight for stopping 2 base all-in play that you cannot afford to fail an early pool. | ||
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							Forikorder
							
							
						 
						Canada8840 Posts
						 On March 28 2012 11:06 Mr Showtime wrote: At lower levels, no, it's not over. But against a top level protoss who is going to do a 2 base all-in, yes, it's pretty much over. I don't mean quit at that point. There is still ample opportunity for them to fuck it up. But the timing window is so tight for stopping 2 base all-in play that you cannot afford to fail an early pool. 6 pooling a FFE toss is guranteed to put you ahead, they invest so much in getting the early forge and literally everything they do early game is all about getting that fast expo that if you 6 pool then they have literally nothing but a worthless canon in there base and that by the time that they actually get there expansion your already ahead on Korean ladder 6 pooling in PvZ on taldarim almost became standard | ||
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