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On March 28 2012 04:28 NewModel wrote:
idra realy often says that fans arent that important.
wasnts that one of the points why he leaves that one showmatch? because its just for the fans?
it isnt a problem when he dosnt freak out like other player do, but i dont see idra "cheering" for his fans often, but we are what him make famouse.
and im following idra since his estro days.
lol you know absolutely nothing about him
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On March 28 2012 11:24 Forikorder wrote:
6 pooling a FFE toss is guranteed to put you ahead, they invest so much in getting the early forge and literally everything they do early game is all about getting that fast expo that if you 6 pool then they have literally nothing but a worthless canon in there base and that by the time that they actually get there expansion your already ahead
on Korean ladder 6 pooling in PvZ on taldarim almost became standard
If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base.
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On March 28 2012 11:24 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 11:06 Mr Showtime wrote:On March 28 2012 08:22 Forikorder wrote:On March 28 2012 08:17 Mr Showtime wrote:On March 28 2012 07:44 Forikorder wrote:On March 28 2012 07:41 Azarkon wrote:On March 28 2012 06:24 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 28 2012 06:20 Incognoto wrote:
Well it's hard to say upset when it's ZvP and the P is Korean... unless you're DRG.
Stephano's good for sure but even he isn't invincible against all-ins. Idra winning vs Inori is imo a bigger upset than Stephano losing to him. Not really. Idra doesn't die to 2 base protoss all-ins that much anymore. He just loses afterwards when he responds incorrectly to his advantage. Stephano's style is supposed to be impervious to builds like the 6 gate and dt rushing because it's so safe. Not to mention Stephano has destroyed way better PvZers than Inori who's PvZ leaves a lot to be desired. Stephano's style is impervious to the safe variation of two base all-ins, where you go forge first and do not skimp on cannons. Inori played nexus first to hit a better timing. He took a gamble and it paid off. stephano should mix in some early pools so people cant take advantage of it like that If they don't take that risk, you lose. not really, even the safest way to FFE means you get to kill there forge and pylon and force a cannon in there mineral line when you take your 6 lings back to your base and expand and be perfectly fine At lower levels, no, it's not over. But against a top level protoss who is going to do a 2 base all-in, yes, it's pretty much over. I don't mean quit at that point. There is still ample opportunity for them to fuck it up. But the timing window is so tight for stopping 2 base all-in play that you cannot afford to fail an early pool. 6 pooling a FFE toss is guranteed to put you ahead, they invest so much in getting the early forge and literally everything they do early game is all about getting that fast expo that if you 6 pool then they have literally nothing but a worthless canon in there base and that by the time that they actually get there expansion your already ahead on Korean ladder 6 pooling in PvZ on taldarim almost became standard
Unless they scout and wall off and then your fucked.
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Unless they scout and wall off and then your fucked.
tahts why i said agaisnt FFE >.>
If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base.
ive seen alot of 6 pools VS FFE and ive never seen the protoss jsut one gate expo against it becuase its not safe
if i had a better memory id link a match on terminus where July 6 pooled and then followed it up with mass ling after the toss expanded and won but i cant remember who he played
point is they have to 3 gate expand to be safe they cant one gate and be safe VS agression
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On March 28 2012 12:57 Forikorder wrote:tahts why i said agaisnt FFE >.> Show nested quote +If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base. ive seen alot of 6 pools VS FFE and ive never seen the protoss jsut one gate expo against it becuase its not safe if i had a better memory id link a match on terminus where July 6 pooled and then followed it up with mass ling after the toss expanded and won but i cant remember who he played point is they have to 3 gate expand to be safe they cant one gate and be safe VS agression
Moon 6 pooled vs huks ffe on tal darim in dreamhack finals, huk just saved for an extra gate and pylon and made a full wall then cancelled gate.
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On March 28 2012 13:00 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:57 Forikorder wrote:Unless they scout and wall off and then your fucked. tahts why i said agaisnt FFE >.> If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base. ive seen alot of 6 pools VS FFE and ive never seen the protoss jsut one gate expo against it becuase its not safe if i had a better memory id link a match on terminus where July 6 pooled and then followed it up with mass ling after the toss expanded and won but i cant remember who he played point is they have to 3 gate expand to be safe they cant one gate and be safe VS agression Moon 6 pooled vs huks ffe on tal darim in dreamhack finals, huk just saved for an extra gate and pylon and made a full wall then cancelled gate.
Was an amazing game, but to be fair he had a pretty clutch scout
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HuK is the definition of clutch.
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On March 28 2012 13:00 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:57 Forikorder wrote:Unless they scout and wall off and then your fucked. tahts why i said agaisnt FFE >.> If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base. ive seen alot of 6 pools VS FFE and ive never seen the protoss jsut one gate expo against it becuase its not safe if i had a better memory id link a match on terminus where July 6 pooled and then followed it up with mass ling after the toss expanded and won but i cant remember who he played point is they have to 3 gate expand to be safe they cant one gate and be safe VS agression Moon 6 pooled vs huks ffe on tal darim in dreamhack finals, huk just saved for an extra gate and pylon and made a full wall then cancelled gate.
very few maps can be walled in with only 3 building and its pretty rare for someone to actually get the scout in time and the 6 pool be late enough for that to actually be pulled off
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Has anyone seen IdrA on ladder recently? He is TEARING IT UP, rank 1 and a CRAZY win percentage.
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On March 28 2012 13:20 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 13:00 Luepert wrote:On March 28 2012 12:57 Forikorder wrote:Unless they scout and wall off and then your fucked. tahts why i said agaisnt FFE >.> If the Protoss holds it properly, it basically turns into a 1-gate expand opening, except the Toss is no longer scared of early lings getting into his base. ive seen alot of 6 pools VS FFE and ive never seen the protoss jsut one gate expo against it becuase its not safe if i had a better memory id link a match on terminus where July 6 pooled and then followed it up with mass ling after the toss expanded and won but i cant remember who he played point is they have to 3 gate expand to be safe they cant one gate and be safe VS agression Moon 6 pooled vs huks ffe on tal darim in dreamhack finals, huk just saved for an extra gate and pylon and made a full wall then cancelled gate. Was an amazing game, but to be fair he had a pretty clutch scout
HuK scouted Moon first, if he had scouted it second it would have been close, if he scouted it last he wouldn't have died but been in trouble.
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On March 28 2012 13:53 PandaMonk wrote:
Has anyone seen IdrA on ladder recently? He is TEARING IT UP, rank 1 and a CRAZY win percentage.
Not important in the slightest. I want to see Idra live up to his talent which means winning tournaments.
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On March 28 2012 14:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 13:53 PandaMonk wrote:
Has anyone seen IdrA on ladder recently? He is TEARING IT UP, rank 1 and a CRAZY win percentage. Not important in the slightest. I want to see Idra live up to his talent which means winning tournaments.
Don't have to shut him down like that man : /. I think it's cool that he's tearing up the ladder. It's better than him struggling on it. Of course we would prefer if he was tearing up live events but I think it's a cool thing to see.
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On March 28 2012 14:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 13:53 PandaMonk wrote:
Has anyone seen IdrA on ladder recently? He is TEARING IT UP, rank 1 and a CRAZY win percentage. Not important in the slightest. I want to see Idra live up to his talent which means winning tournaments.
so amny party poopers in this thread
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On March 28 2012 14:37 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 14:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 28 2012 13:53 PandaMonk wrote:
Has anyone seen IdrA on ladder recently? He is TEARING IT UP, rank 1 and a CRAZY win percentage. Not important in the slightest. I want to see Idra live up to his talent which means winning tournaments. so amny party poopers in this thread
idra is the biggest party pooper in this thread :D
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IPL4 at Las Vegas and the GSTL finals aproaching soon.
Where is IdrA seeded at IPL4?
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On March 28 2012 15:04 Jinsho wrote:
IPL4 at Las Vegas and the GSTL finals aproaching soon.
Where is IdrA seeded at IPL4?
in the same group with bomber and mma T_T
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On March 28 2012 15:04 Jinsho wrote:
IPL4 at Las Vegas and the GSTL finals aproaching soon.
Where is IdrA seeded at IPL4?
A simple click and scroll in the SC2 Tourny section would give you your answer. I don't know why people are so lazy some times.
Here you go
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Just watched the interview with Anna before the finals of MLG. I laughed when he started to talk about Inori. Must have been a weird feeling having Stephano watch him play and beat Inori. Sweet irony indeed.
Edit: Went back a few pages and saw that the link to the interview was already posted.
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I asked "where" he was seeded, the answer to that being "pool play". No need to be an ass.
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seems like british people don't have the ability to use liquipedia or is it their purpose to ask dumb question for +1?
interview pretty amazing though. I have a good feeling for ipl4
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