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TheEmulator

28079 Posts

June 30 2019 06:06 GMT

#114221

On June 29 2019 21:35 LennX wrote:

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T-ara. The potential SNSD usurper until bad CEO happens as usual

Think I started with kpop around 2009. I feel like that entire era was great and I really miss it (like 2008-2012).

evilfatsh1t

Australia8606 Posts

June 30 2019 07:20 GMT

#114222

yeah kpop (idol music) really went downhill starting from around 2013.

Charoisaur

Germany15867 Posts

June 30 2019 08:34 GMT

#114223

On June 30 2019 16:20 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah kpop (idol music) really went downhill starting from around 2013.

explain?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8606 Posts

June 30 2019 09:02 GMT

#114224

the quality of the music is shite compared to the ones from pre-2013. what more is there to say lol

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

June 30 2019 14:01 GMT

#114225

I think there are still good stuff being released but what went to shite imo is the community.
K-Pop became too mainstream(hipster mode activated..) maybe after Gangnam Style? Now everyone is cemented into their opinion and the group they stan they stan 100% so it's impossible to have any decent music discussion because obviously my group can never release a bad song.

The focus shifted from 'lets have fun' to 'we gotta become the next BTS so we can earn tons of cash', no fun group interactions on variety or anything anymore, no music collabs on weekly music shows etc. The 'no fun allowed' policy from companies are out in full effect now.

Now a days everything is about Youtube views.. "We need 5mil in 2 days!!!", "ok we hit that now we neeeeeeeeeeed 10 mil!".. But why? Cause you wanna brag about your group being the best.

I constantly read on reddit etc that people have no idea about certain groups and those groups can be semi popular but they just listen to their group over and over and have 0 interest in learning about new groups etc.

Nesserev

Belgium2760 Posts

June 30 2019 14:09 GMT

#114226

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{ToT}ColmA

Japan3260 Posts

June 30 2019 15:18 GMT

#114227

disagree - you guys go wow classic in here right now

kpop always had shit and good in every year

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

June 30 2019 15:37 GMT

#114228

here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go

I.O.I Will comeback under 'Studio Blu' (Heize label apparently)

Hi, this is STUDIO BLU

We are pleased to announce the reunion of IOI, which finished its official activities in January 2017.

Hi? It is IOI (I.O.I).

At the last concert we promised "Let's meet again". As long as fans are aspiring, we have been working hard at each other, always dreaming of reunion.

And in October 2019, Kim Se-jeong, Choi Yoo-jung, Chung Ha, Kim Soh-ye, Sung Kyulkyung, Chung Chae Yeon, Kim Do Yeon, Kang Mina and Im Nayoung decided to stand in front of you again in the Name of IOI.

Somi and Yeonjung could not join for promotions, but will still be showing their support.

We will now begin to communicate the preparation process and activity schedule for IOI in the following time. We are so glad and appreciated to hear from you again

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzVpDYCAH1U/

YA'LL READY?! VERY VERY VERYYYY

Craton

United States17233 Posts

June 30 2019 18:40 GMT

#114229

"Pop music went too mainstream"

LOL

The world must look like this to you guys

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

July 01 2019 14:39 GMT

#114230

I dont think thats what was really said tho..but ok.

Craton

United States17233 Posts

July 01 2019 21:12 GMT

#114231

Credibility of numbers notwithstanding, this was quite the trip down memory lane.

Craton

United States17233 Posts

July 02 2019 05:29 GMT

#114232

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

July 02 2019 17:13 GMT

#114233

Lol Chungha is the fucking best. Who else brings their backup dancers to something like this?

Craton

United States17233 Posts

July 02 2019 23:11 GMT

#114234

Craton

United States17233 Posts

July 03 2019 04:39 GMT

#114235

Here's someone I haven't seen awhile

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

July 03 2019 05:14 GMT

#114236

I legit actually hate that Heejoon Moon guy. He was on multiple talkshows saying retarded things about how his family shouldnt be in the press etc and then he goes on that show for more fame.
Fuck that guy. He just reeks of no shame.
Even his hard core fanbase has turned on him.Ugh.
Praying on a young nugu idol too and then shotgun wedding. Shit she deserves so much better.

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I dunno if this is.. allowed but damn thats one ugly baby lmao

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

July 03 2019 05:30 GMT

#114237

On June 30 2019 23:01 DwD wrote:
I think there are still good stuff being released but what went to shite imo is the community.
K-Pop became too mainstream(hipster mode activated..) maybe after Gangnam Style? Now everyone is cemented into their opinion and the group they stan they stan 100% so it's impossible to have any decent music discussion because obviously my group can never release a bad song.

The focus shifted from 'lets have fun' to 'we gotta become the next BTS so we can earn tons of cash', no fun group interactions on variety or anything anymore, no music collabs on weekly music shows etc. The 'no fun allowed' policy from companies are out in full effect now.

Now a days everything is about Youtube views.. "We need 5mil in 2 days!!!", "ok we hit that now we neeeeeeeeeeed 10 mil!".. But why? Cause you wanna brag about your group being the best.

I constantly read on reddit etc that people have no idea about certain groups and those groups can be semi popular but they just listen to their group over and over and have 0 interest in learning about new groups etc.

Until recently I had been an apostate for the last 4 years, so I can't ascertain whether modern-day K-pop is really devoid of creativity. Every generation faces accusations de novo that it's uninspired, trite, bland aesthetically and musically. When I left around 2015, I felt it was succumbing to the same problems that are currently plaguing American pop:

Overly slavish to recent trends. The innovation and variety in the second generation was equally parts desperation and naivete. None of the management companies knew the formula for lasting success in Korea and abroad, so there was a ton of experimentation within both groups and their output. Not all the songs were bangers but the inspirations were often esoteric and bizarre; it's hard to imagine Red Velvet releasing two songs as radically different as Roly Poly and Cry Cry within the same year. Now it feels like the same set of influences: trap, various flavors of EDM, weak-ass "rap", etc.
Obnoxious community. Online supporters went from relative indifference to other groups mixed with curiosity to relentless stanning reinforced by people with serious attachment issues.
Everything's too slick and well-produced. Said companies have really perfected all the technical aspects like presentation, sound mixing, editing, and performer appearance. It's so pristine it creates an uncanny valley effect. The video rarely feels heartfelt in terms of lyrics, music style, or imagery. I often get the unsettling feeling I'm watching a parody of a music genre instead of an example of it, or some Braudrillardian nightmare where every facet is a reference to some other pop phenomenon.