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rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-07 23:44:23
September 07 2009 23:44 GMT
#1121
Lol the petition is stupid, it will blow over soon.
Whoever dug through his Myspace to 4 years back was looking REALLY HARD to find something.

Jessica Ho insulted BoA on myspace I believe, and that pretty much ended her career due to people complaining and bitching.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 07 2009 23:51 GMT
#1122
I dunno about you guys, but I think it's retarded how they're on Jay's ass about this while people like Tae Yeon and Seung-ri got away with racial remarks towards Blacks.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2009 00:33 GMT
#1123
On September 08 2009 08:51 zoLo wrote:
I dunno about you guys, but I think it's retarded how they're on Jay's ass about this while people like Tae Yeon and Seung-ri got away with racial remarks towards Blacks.

Taeyeon didn't get away with it. It's just that people have gotten so used to listening to antis bitch about SNSD that they stopped caring.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 08 2009 01:02 GMT
#1124
On September 08 2009 08:51 zoLo wrote:
I dunno about you guys, but I think it's retarded how they're on Jay's ass about this while people like Tae Yeon and Seung-ri got away with racial remarks towards Blacks.


Thanks for the explanation about Jessica Ho and Brian Joo, but they really don't look like big deals to me. Brian's remarks seem excusable to me, especially since it wasn't his intention. Jessica Ho should have been more careful, but it's pretty stupid for people to go back and check old messages that they wrote -_-

Also, it seems that a lot of Koreans dislike black people. When I was in Korea, my aunts used to talk about how black people always start fights, hitting people in the street and stuff. I don't want to sound like a racist, but that seems to be how it is. Whenever I'm on a bus or a train in New York or Boston, the rowdiest kids tend to be black teenagers and a lot of the time, they are talking about fighting or something.
Sullifam
Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
September 08 2009 01:12 GMT
#1125
On September 08 2009 09:33 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2009 08:51 zoLo wrote:
I dunno about you guys, but I think it's retarded how they're on Jay's ass about this while people like Tae Yeon and Seung-ri got away with racial remarks towards Blacks.

Taeyeon didn't get away with it. It's just that people have gotten so used to listening to antis bitch about SNSD that they stopped caring.

Tae Yeon got so many anti-fans and was harassed because of her remarks. She didn't get away with it.
Blah
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 08 2009 01:12 GMT
#1126
On September 08 2009 09:33 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2009 08:51 zoLo wrote:
I dunno about you guys, but I think it's retarded how they're on Jay's ass about this while people like Tae Yeon and Seung-ri got away with racial remarks towards Blacks.

Taeyeon didn't get away with it. It's just that people have gotten so used to listening to antis bitch about SNSD that they stopped caring.

I meant as in the media taking it seriously. Since Tae Yeon's remark wasn't "serious" they didn't care. Once Jessica and Jay make remarks about Korea or a Korean artists, every site bites them in the ass.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
September 08 2009 01:13 GMT
#1127
Yeah, you have to remember that Korea isn't as racially diverse as other countries (i.e. US) so their culture hasn't formed around trying to keep everyone happy (not saying that what they said was right). Judging and bashing them based solely on our (US) standards and customs doesn't really make sense since we don't know how they grew up or view things that we've become sensitized or desensitized to.

Random Kara ramen CF since I know there are a lot of ramen fans:
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 08 2009 01:23 GMT
#1128
On September 08 2009 10:13 beefhamburger wrote:
Yeah, you have to remember that Korea isn't as racially diverse as other countries (i.e. US) so their culture hasn't formed around trying to keep everyone happy (not saying that what they said was right). Judging and bashing them based solely on our (US) standards and customs doesn't really make sense since we don't know how they grew up or view things that we've become sensitized or desensitized to.

Random Kara ramen CF since I know there are a lot of ramen fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGQZpNMGvQ


That's the mister dance!

And yeah, many countries tend to be racially homogeneous while America was built on immigration; most people's ancestors came to America less than 400 years ago and people are still arriving daily.
Sullifam
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 01:54:10
September 08 2009 01:53 GMT
#1129
I just saw the suicide petition post elsewhere regarding Jaebeom - it's sick what some people in this country are capable of. I've now had first hand experience of netizens and they really are pitchfork wielding children with too much time on their hands in many cases. The remarks he made were pretty dumb (and his typing online is hilarious.) but he was a kid when he made them.

I'm sad over this scandal because 2pm are my favorite band and Jaebeom happens to be my favorite member (aside from Chanseung after meeting him and scaring the crap out him with my fangirlness.) - it's been reported he's not even eating meals (although if this is true we'll never know.) I hope they can just come out of this and carry on performing/bring the new album soon. JYP should have just said FU to the netizens and carried on public appearances, but sadly that's how things work over here....

Also this week it's been reported netizens are annoyed because JYP spelt ramyeon as 'ramen' (Japanese style) in hangul. -_- Someone needs to remind me why I live here sometimes - when issues like *that* are so deathly important to a cross-section of the population.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 08 2009 02:29 GMT
#1130
and thats without even getting into things like dokdo islands and the sea of japan. Some of the things koreans go crazy about just dont make any sense to me
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 08 2009 02:32 GMT
#1131
On September 08 2009 10:53 NeverGG wrote:
I just saw the suicide petition post elsewhere regarding Jaebeom - it's sick what some people in this country are capable of. I've now had first hand experience of netizens and they really are pitchfork wielding children with too much time on their hands in many cases. The remarks he made were pretty dumb (and his typing online is hilarious.) but he was a kid when he made them.

I'm sad over this scandal because 2pm are my favorite band and Jaebeom happens to be my favorite member (aside from Chanseung after meeting him and scaring the crap out him with my fangirlness.) - it's been reported he's not even eating meals (although if this is true we'll never know.) I hope they can just come out of this and carry on performing/bring the new album soon. JYP should have just said FU to the netizens and carried on public appearances, but sadly that's how things work over here....

Also this week it's been reported netizens are annoyed because JYP spelt ramyeon as 'ramen' (Japanese style) in hangul. -_- Someone needs to remind me why I live here sometimes - when issues like *that* are so deathly important to a cross-section of the population.


holy shit are u serious thats so insane. i have no idea about these kpop stars lol but i hope he doesn't acutally suicide or at least hope he doesnt retire or whatever due to stupid netizens :\
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uSiN
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
September 08 2009 03:19 GMT
#1132
Each culture / country has their "what?" moments.

Like in the US most non African American can't use the N word or else your gonna get mowed down.

Also stuff like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99095

And I think Americans are more homophobic than compared to other countries / culture.
.-.
kaizenmx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States110 Posts
September 08 2009 03:46 GMT
#1133


clazziquai is the shit.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
September 08 2009 03:49 GMT
#1134


fuck yeah clazziquai
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 04:05:37
September 08 2009 03:50 GMT
#1135
On September 08 2009 11:32 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2009 10:53 NeverGG wrote:
I just saw the suicide petition post elsewhere regarding Jaebeom - it's sick what some people in this country are capable of. I've now had first hand experience of netizens and they really are pitchfork wielding children with too much time on their hands in many cases. The remarks he made were pretty dumb (and his typing online is hilarious.) but he was a kid when he made them.

I'm sad over this scandal because 2pm are my favorite band and Jaebeom happens to be my favorite member (aside from Chanseung after meeting him and scaring the crap out him with my fangirlness.) - it's been reported he's not even eating meals (although if this is true we'll never know.) I hope they can just come out of this and carry on performing/bring the new album soon. JYP should have just said FU to the netizens and carried on public appearances, but sadly that's how things work over here....

Also this week it's been reported netizens are annoyed because JYP spelt ramyeon as 'ramen' (Japanese style) in hangul. -_- Someone needs to remind me why I live here sometimes - when issues like *that* are so deathly important to a cross-section of the population.


holy shit are u serious thats so insane. i have no idea about these kpop stars lol but i hope he doesn't acutally suicide or at least hope he doesnt retire or whatever due to stupid netizens :\


I doubt he will since JYP has confidence in them. He even made a rumor of 2PM debuting in America once The Wonder Girls are well established in the states.

WOW, it has been stated on his official fansite that he did retire! Either his account has hacked or it's true. No statement from JYP right now.

http://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=200909081238361002
translation needed

"Hello, I'm 2PM's Jaebeom.

I'm sorry for giving you my last greeting through this letter.
I think it will be hard for me to see you all on stage because of my sorry heart.

I'm really sorry to everyone, and I'm even more sorry to the fans who have shown me love.
From today, I will leave 2PM.

2PM boys, I'm really sorry to the boys and I'm sorry I couldn't be strong as a leader and a hyung and have to leave like this.
However, I hope you will be more cool and charming.

Again, I'm sorry.

Jaebeom"
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 04:33:08
September 08 2009 04:27 GMT
#1136
JYP just confirmed Jaebeom's departure T_T. So sad that he couldn't fight through it with his fans (not that I know what death threats are like). As far as I know 2PM is still staying together but it's a sad day in Kpop land. Good luck to him in the future and hope he stays in the music business somehow. He is apparently to leave Korea (probably back to the US) by tonight.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
September 08 2009 04:42 GMT
#1137
lol this shit is so pathetic, korean netizens take shit way too seriously.. this was something he said 5 fucking years ago on MYSPACE
You can't fight the feeling.
rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 04:47:16
September 08 2009 04:44 GMT
#1138
wow, what the crap he's leaving over this?? I'm not a fan but COME ON.
Korean artists have come back from sex tapes before...

Edit: I have my suspicions he has more bigger reasons as to why he's quitting and using the netizens issue as a cover
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
September 08 2009 04:44 GMT
#1139
and lol @ allkpop, site keeps crashing due to the news
You can't fight the feeling.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 04:51:18
September 08 2009 04:46 GMT
#1140
wow. this 2pm shit is ridiculous. make this controversy when they debut or something, not when they've already got a massive fan base. especially if it's over 4 years old. >> if it was something recent, or if it was during early breakout stages, i might understand the netizens, but seriously? grow up netizens. please.

@rinoh: if 6,000 koreans wanted me to commit suicide just because i ranted about a culture i was thrown into 4 years ago. i pretty much wouldn't give a shit about koreans and retire too. (I'm Korean)
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