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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 01 2013 06:04 GMT
#99461
lol I didn't even notice that the first time.
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Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
November 01 2013 07:07 GMT
#99462
On November 01 2013 11:03 Requizen wrote:
She's like, a decent rapper. Neither of their songs actually involve real singing so idk if she has a voice.

Twerking is stupid and she loses points for that video.

Since when did having a voice matter to you?
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 01 2013 07:23 GMT
#99463
Is it wrong if one said the Fiestar MV and song is rather...creative?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
November 01 2013 07:29 GMT
#99464
fun mv
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
November 01 2013 07:31 GMT
#99465
I wonder if the subtle boner part is going to be controversial or not.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
November 01 2013 08:21 GMT
#99466
fiestar mv....well its fun, song is so so for me and some girls screentime is like non existent which is rather bad, chezka is pretty good. kinda digging yezi with that hair, looks much better than the vista promo
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
November 01 2013 08:41 GMT
#99467
With the forum and sidebar reordering I thought for a moment that a mod closed KMD...

I had a mini panic attack. Man that would have been the end of an era on TL.
GuMiho <3
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 01 2013 08:41 GMT
#99468
Just subscribe to the thread. I barely look at the sidebar for anything anymore
SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
November 01 2013 08:56 GMT
#99469
On November 01 2013 10:44 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:31 SongByungWewt wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:14 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:44 SongByungWewt wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:07 Hall0wed wrote:
lol BEG still a girl group so they can't have the best kpop album either.

Kara's albums are pretty bad too I must admit.

However if Queen Nari were to have an album it would automatically be the greatest album of all time.



I'm not sure I get the logic here. You're saying only solo artists have good albums?

I was kind of joking... + Show Spoiler +
except not really, Nari is the one true queen and savior of kpop


But there are plenty of other things out there besides girl groups and female solo artists... lol. KMD is mostly hung up on girl groups though so I can't expect the opinion to be too varied when it comes to topics such as these.


The only alternatives are guy groups and guy solo artists... And those are mostly geared towards teenage girls... Nari is pretty sexy though.

That is exactly how I would expect a typical KMDer to think. Just because male idols have a lot of fangirls doesn't mean the quality of their music has to be any less (though of course sometimes it is). There are quite a few male groups with very worthwhile albums and some good solo works out there too.

Also the term kpop doesn't have to be used just for idol music, many times people use the word "kpop" it encompasses all sorts of Korean music, including rock, hip-hop, ballad singers, and anything else you can think of.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 10:21 Requizen wrote:
Nari is pretty and has a good body but she's really nothing special...

If you hadn't left us then you would think differently about that.


I didn't say the quality of guys in kpop was lower. I implied I'm not a teenage girl and that's what their product is geared towards. Maybe your tastes are similar to teenage girls. That's great for you. You have a lot of guys to listen to. But it's not my thing so leave it at that. Also your histrionics about typical KMDers is rude and you should keep such stereotyping thoughts to yourself.

Lastly, people might use the word kpop many times, but that doesn't make it correct. Korean hip hop is its own genre. K-rock is it's own genre. Ballads are their own genre. They do not fall under the umbrella of kpop. Just because some people equate kpop to korean music as a whole doesn't make it true. Kpop is idol music. That's what the POP part represents.
Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 10:15:23
November 01 2013 09:29 GMT
#99470
This new layout blows. Liked the old one better. Now to the music. A John Park song I finally like.



And Navi, Kim Bo Kyung OST and ROO
+ Show Spoiler +





giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
November 01 2013 09:37 GMT
#99471
On November 01 2013 17:56 SongByungWewt wrote:
I didn't say the quality of guys in kpop was lower. I implied I'm not a teenage girl and that's what their product is geared towards. Maybe your tastes are similar to teenage girls. That's great for you. You have a lot of guys to listen to. But it's not my thing so leave it at that. Also your histrionics about typical KMDers is rude and you should keep such stereotyping thoughts to yourself.

Lastly, people might use the word kpop many times, but that doesn't make it correct. Korean hip hop is its own genre. K-rock is it's own genre. Ballads are their own genre. They do not fall under the umbrella of kpop. Just because some people equate kpop to korean music as a whole doesn't make it true. Kpop is idol music. That's what the POP part represents.



your post is just wrong in so many ways
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 01 2013 10:43 GMT
#99472
Critical hit in a fighting game? That's bullshit! Fun song to be honest, something different at least.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
November 01 2013 11:14 GMT
#99473
--- Nuked ---
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 01 2013 13:44 GMT
#99474
On November 01 2013 16:07 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 11:03 Requizen wrote:
She's like, a decent rapper. Neither of their songs actually involve real singing so idk if she has a voice.

Twerking is stupid and she loses points for that video.

Since when did having a voice matter to you?

Plz

On November 01 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
Is it wrong if one said the Fiestar MV and song is rather...creative?

I wouldn't say creative. It's pretty standard kpop lyrics, though the beat is a fun take on the nursery rhyme. The MV is damn funny though.

I really want to see the perf/dance version for this, the dance parts that we did see were a lot of fun.

Better than We Don't Stop, not as good as Vista. Is this a full album or just another single?
It's your boy Guzma!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8931 Posts
November 01 2013 13:44 GMT
#99475
On November 01 2013 18:37 giesecke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 17:56 SongByungWewt wrote:
I didn't say the quality of guys in kpop was lower. I implied I'm not a teenage girl and that's what their product is geared towards. Maybe your tastes are similar to teenage girls. That's great for you. You have a lot of guys to listen to. But it's not my thing so leave it at that. Also your histrionics about typical KMDers is rude and you should keep such stereotyping thoughts to yourself.

Lastly, people might use the word kpop many times, but that doesn't make it correct. Korean hip hop is its own genre. K-rock is it's own genre. Ballads are their own genre. They do not fall under the umbrella of kpop. Just because some people equate kpop to korean music as a whole doesn't make it true. Kpop is idol music. That's what the POP part represents.



your post is just wrong in so many ways

how? his last paragraph at the very least is true. kpop is supposed to mean idol music. anyone who doesnt follow korean music that much will say theyve heard "kpop" when theyve only really heard snsd.
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
November 01 2013 13:54 GMT
#99476
Well to be fair, I think calling something K-rock, K-electronica or whatever is dumb too. The K in that case seems irrelevant to me. For instance, people don't call german rap, G-Rap. That's fucking dumb.

It's more the easy of saying K-pop as in Korean music than having to refer to each little sub-genre with a K in front of it.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 14:16:56
November 01 2013 14:14 GMT
#99477
Ah dese GLAM updates. Girls, plz just come back ;_;

[image loading]

Creepy Zinni:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Edit:

Also HyoFany~

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
It's your boy Guzma!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#99478
On November 01 2013 22:54 Kaiwa wrote:
Well to be fair, I think calling something K-rock, K-electronica or whatever is dumb too. The K in that case seems irrelevant to me. For instance, people don't call german rap, G-Rap. That's fucking dumb.

It's more the easy of saying K-pop as in Korean music than having to refer to each little sub-genre with a K in front of it.

It's relevant if it has a different sound. Like how J-rock makes sense because it sounds distinctly japanese, and not just because of the language they're singing in. Kpop is the same way. I might extend it to K-rock but I haven't heard much else beyond that.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 01 2013 16:03 GMT
#99479
On November 01 2013 18:37 giesecke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 17:56 SongByungWewt wrote:
I didn't say the quality of guys in kpop was lower. I implied I'm not a teenage girl and that's what their product is geared towards. Maybe your tastes are similar to teenage girls. That's great for you. You have a lot of guys to listen to. But it's not my thing so leave it at that. Also your histrionics about typical KMDers is rude and you should keep such stereotyping thoughts to yourself.

Lastly, people might use the word kpop many times, but that doesn't make it correct. Korean hip hop is its own genre. K-rock is it's own genre. Ballads are their own genre. They do not fall under the umbrella of kpop. Just because some people equate kpop to korean music as a whole doesn't make it true. Kpop is idol music. That's what the POP part represents.



your post is just wrong in so many ways

it's accurate barring the whole 'male idol music only appeals to teenage girls'

kpop = korean pop. you could have an unknown korean artist making pop and it could be called kpop.
and pop is a pretty general term; people just arbitrarily label popular songs as 'pop' when it really isn't.

On November 01 2013 22:54 Kaiwa wrote:
Well to be fair, I think calling something K-rock, K-electronica or whatever is dumb too. The K in that case seems irrelevant to me. For instance, people don't call german rap, G-Rap. That's fucking dumb.

It's more the easy of saying K-pop as in Korean music than having to refer to each little sub-genre with a K in front of it.

k-electronica is more subtle than western electro music
k-hip-hop is also unique in its sound when you compare it to its western counterparts.

But I guess k-rap is rap is rap is rap.
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SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
November 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#99480
On November 02 2013 00:46 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:54 Kaiwa wrote:
Well to be fair, I think calling something K-rock, K-electronica or whatever is dumb too. The K in that case seems irrelevant to me. For instance, people don't call german rap, G-Rap. That's fucking dumb.

It's more the easy of saying K-pop as in Korean music than having to refer to each little sub-genre with a K in front of it.

It's relevant if it has a different sound. Like how J-rock makes sense because it sounds distinctly japanese, and not just because of the language they're singing in. Kpop is the same way. I might extend it to K-rock but I haven't heard much else beyond that.


The korean hip hop scene is pretty distinct as well, and really doesn't fall under the Kpop tent, even if they have random girls in every group doing a "rap verse."

Just like in Latin America what started as reggae and hip hop has spun out into a number of different genres.

It might be easier to call it k-pop but it doesn't make it correct. If you were going to simply lump everything as Kpop, you might as well just call it Korean music, but obviously that's not a good idea because the music of an entire nation is quite diverse.

There's a world of difference between a ballad singer and a kpop solo artist. IMO Son Ga-In and Hyuna and IU etc fall squarely under the kpop tent. Lee Soo Young, hell no. Ailee is borderline. I just think it's nonsensical to try to claim kpop encompasses all these genres. Yes, kpop incorporates elements from each of these other genres, but it doesn't encompass them.
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