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aquahobo
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom19 Posts
December 14 2012 10:09 GMT
#87601
'Although the Fantastic Baby video was shit too'... I remember watching that video 30+ times in January/Feb


How did you do that when it came out in march?
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 14 2012 10:10 GMT
#87602
On December 14 2012 19:09 aquahobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
'Although the Fantastic Baby video was shit too'... I remember watching that video 30+ times in January/Feb


How did you do that when it came out in march?

Aha I remember sometime early in the year, I just assumed it was Jan
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 14 2012 10:15 GMT
#87603
On December 14 2012 18:53 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 18:46 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
Uh oh, an old geezer vs hipster debate has started. We better extinguish this flame war before it burns the whole thread down.

no, it's more like a fanboy of the genre is convinced it's taking over the world by storm and people are telling him the genre hasn't changed much since 2000. It's like that one time BoA decided to make a debut in the US and people were saying she'd blow up there and how kpop was the wave taking over.
It's not.
and it will never be.

On December 14 2012 15:55 Gosi wrote:
On December 14 2012 15:28 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 14:57 firehand101 wrote:
And would have to agree that this has probably been the greatest, most successful year of Kpop ever.

what.
this year's releases were garbage.

No, not really.

yes, really.
this year's releases sucked. half the shit I considered decent/good weren't even strictly kpop.

On December 14 2012 18:39 DystopiaX wrote:
GUYS

WHY ARE WE ARGUING WITH FIREHAND AGAIN

I'd forgotten who he was when I first replied to him lol



Pretty funny that you think that I think Kpop is taking the world by storm. All I say is its better than it ever has been, and more people are enjoying it than ever before. Why does everyone assume I think kpop will reach #1 on the US charts anytime soon... I mean, apart from Gangnam style lol. Try to make that distinction

Saying BoA will blow up is a prediction. Seeing the staggering amount of views Kpop videos are getting are facts. There is a difference dude

'Releases were garbage'. Don't know what to say to this really, apart from I have enjoyed pretty much every video I have seen this year. Every video is an absolute treat and pleasure, and this year has been fantastic.

A. and I quote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:43 firehand101 wrote:
Production has not gone down the drain. It is fucking astounding how much effort they put into their videos. As I said, no one comes close to what the Kpop world produces in their videos. They are so unique and different, and having a Kpop song as the most viewed video of all time sort of solidifies the fact that people are captivated by the Korean take on the music industry.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:12 firehand101 wrote:
Suboptimal? No offence intended here, but what the fuck are you on about? Kpop videos are just miles ahead of anything produced in any country anywhere in the world. The first big video released this year in Fantastic Baby set the tone for the whole year, and there have been many videos at that quality or above. In regards to Western videos, I can't think of one that can come close to Fantastic Baby, or many other videos produced by this market.

I'm pretty sure you've been spoilt by all of the wonderful personalities/videos of Kpop and can't really see through that little fog, but Kpop is still miles ahead in terms of production quality and entertainment. There is nothing else like it in the world. Countries watch in awe as they see dance moves executed to perfection, amazing sets and production quality out of this world.

In this day and age, I'm confident that Kpop is the greatest mainstream entertainment being produced


B. a lot of those views are from scripts run by the companies, and views != enjoyment. A lot of people have seen Baby Baby on yt but that doesn't mean they favor the music Bieber makes.
C. you enjoy everything related to genre, hence the term fanboy
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 14 2012 10:16 GMT
#87604
Guys why are you arguing about something so simple? It's clear that Kpop is better and bigger than ever. Production down the drain? Never before have I seen so well done MV's etc. T-ara drama versions? Super good production. I think some here are just experience some nostalgia.
Kpop isn't taking the world by storm or anything like that, that however doesn't mean its bigger than ever.

Anyway..........

The MelOn music awards seems to be live. There are a bunch of streams on the LOEN Music channel on youtube. Here is the stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/LOENENT/featured.

Seems it's red carpet right now. Enjoy <3
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 10:19:14
December 14 2012 10:19 GMT
#87605
On December 14 2012 19:16 DwD wrote:
The MelOn music awards seems to be live. There are a bunch of streams on the LOEN Music channel on youtube. Here is the stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/LOENENT/featured.

Seems it's red carpet right now. Enjoy <3

Sweet, maybe we can LR it and get away from this garbage discussion. What's the reputation of the Melon awards? No sketchy business like the MAMAs?
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 10:22:07
December 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#87606
On December 14 2012 19:15 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 18:53 firehand101 wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:46 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
Uh oh, an old geezer vs hipster debate has started. We better extinguish this flame war before it burns the whole thread down.

no, it's more like a fanboy of the genre is convinced it's taking over the world by storm and people are telling him the genre hasn't changed much since 2000. It's like that one time BoA decided to make a debut in the US and people were saying she'd blow up there and how kpop was the wave taking over.
It's not.
and it will never be.

On December 14 2012 15:55 Gosi wrote:
On December 14 2012 15:28 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 14:57 firehand101 wrote:
And would have to agree that this has probably been the greatest, most successful year of Kpop ever.

what.
this year's releases were garbage.

No, not really.

yes, really.
this year's releases sucked. half the shit I considered decent/good weren't even strictly kpop.

On December 14 2012 18:39 DystopiaX wrote:
GUYS

WHY ARE WE ARGUING WITH FIREHAND AGAIN

I'd forgotten who he was when I first replied to him lol



Pretty funny that you think that I think Kpop is taking the world by storm. All I say is its better than it ever has been, and more people are enjoying it than ever before. Why does everyone assume I think kpop will reach #1 on the US charts anytime soon... I mean, apart from Gangnam style lol. Try to make that distinction

Saying BoA will blow up is a prediction. Seeing the staggering amount of views Kpop videos are getting are facts. There is a difference dude

'Releases were garbage'. Don't know what to say to this really, apart from I have enjoyed pretty much every video I have seen this year. Every video is an absolute treat and pleasure, and this year has been fantastic.

A. and I quote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:43 firehand101 wrote:
Production has not gone down the drain. It is fucking astounding how much effort they put into their videos. As I said, no one comes close to what the Kpop world produces in their videos. They are so unique and different, and having a Kpop song as the most viewed video of all time sort of solidifies the fact that people are captivated by the Korean take on the music industry.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:12 firehand101 wrote:
Suboptimal? No offence intended here, but what the fuck are you on about? Kpop videos are just miles ahead of anything produced in any country anywhere in the world. The first big video released this year in Fantastic Baby set the tone for the whole year, and there have been many videos at that quality or above. In regards to Western videos, I can't think of one that can come close to Fantastic Baby, or many other videos produced by this market.

I'm pretty sure you've been spoilt by all of the wonderful personalities/videos of Kpop and can't really see through that little fog, but Kpop is still miles ahead in terms of production quality and entertainment. There is nothing else like it in the world. Countries watch in awe as they see dance moves executed to perfection, amazing sets and production quality out of this world.

In this day and age, I'm confident that Kpop is the greatest mainstream entertainment being produced


B. a lot of those views are from scripts run by the companies, and views != enjoyment. A lot of people have seen Baby Baby on yt but that doesn't mean they favor the music Bieber makes.
C. you enjoy everything related to genre, hence the term fanboy


A- I don't get it T_T
B- What are scripts lol. and yeah views do indicate enjoyment, but #1 on iTunes in many countries, being nominated for person of the year and performing at American Music awards and countless television shows also contribute (Assuming we are talking about PSY here)
C- I have to say that is virtually true. Although I absolutely hate live non-lip synced performances, and there are a few Kpop songs which I don't like, but yeah for the most part I have enjoyed almost all MV's I've seen

On December 14 2012 19:16 DwD wrote:
Guys why are you arguing about something so simple? It's clear that Kpop is better and bigger than ever. Production down the drain? Never before have I seen so well done MV's etc. T-ara drama versions? Super good production. I think some here are just experience some nostalgia.
Kpop isn't taking the world by storm or anything like that, that however doesn't mean its bigger than ever.

Anyway..........

The MelOn music awards seems to be live. There are a bunch of streams on the LOEN Music channel on youtube. Here is the stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/LOENENT/featured.

Seems it's red carpet right now. Enjoy <3


5/5 for you
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 10:51:27
December 14 2012 10:45 GMT
#87607
On December 14 2012 19:19 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 19:16 DwD wrote:
The MelOn music awards seems to be live. There are a bunch of streams on the LOEN Music channel on youtube. Here is the stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/LOENENT/featured.

Seems it's red carpet right now. Enjoy <3

Sweet, maybe we can LR it and get away from this garbage discussion. What's the reputation of the Melon awards? No sketchy business like the MAMAs?

MAMAs are more notorious for it but none are really that reputable.

Plus they're entertainment awards. Like, look at how people trash American awards, you can't expect the Korean equivalents to be that much better.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 10:54:47
December 14 2012 10:53 GMT
#87608
Oh man these english subs, pretty much the lowest possible amount of effort put on them.

Anyway, best rookie, that's an easy one.

Edit: I have no idea why there are two artists accepting the award right now.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 14 2012 10:54 GMT
#87609
On December 14 2012 18:49 fusionsdf wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


so pretty

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Prettier than your girlfriend Ren
+ Show Spoiler +
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Aegyo Ren dressed in red
+ Show Spoiler +
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[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 14 2012 11:05 GMT
#87610
On December 14 2012 19:21 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 19:15 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:53 firehand101 wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:46 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 18:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
Uh oh, an old geezer vs hipster debate has started. We better extinguish this flame war before it burns the whole thread down.

no, it's more like a fanboy of the genre is convinced it's taking over the world by storm and people are telling him the genre hasn't changed much since 2000. It's like that one time BoA decided to make a debut in the US and people were saying she'd blow up there and how kpop was the wave taking over.
It's not.
and it will never be.

On December 14 2012 15:55 Gosi wrote:
On December 14 2012 15:28 andyrau wrote:
On December 14 2012 14:57 firehand101 wrote:
And would have to agree that this has probably been the greatest, most successful year of Kpop ever.

what.
this year's releases were garbage.

No, not really.

yes, really.
this year's releases sucked. half the shit I considered decent/good weren't even strictly kpop.

On December 14 2012 18:39 DystopiaX wrote:
GUYS

WHY ARE WE ARGUING WITH FIREHAND AGAIN

I'd forgotten who he was when I first replied to him lol



Pretty funny that you think that I think Kpop is taking the world by storm. All I say is its better than it ever has been, and more people are enjoying it than ever before. Why does everyone assume I think kpop will reach #1 on the US charts anytime soon... I mean, apart from Gangnam style lol. Try to make that distinction

Saying BoA will blow up is a prediction. Seeing the staggering amount of views Kpop videos are getting are facts. There is a difference dude

'Releases were garbage'. Don't know what to say to this really, apart from I have enjoyed pretty much every video I have seen this year. Every video is an absolute treat and pleasure, and this year has been fantastic.

A. and I quote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:43 firehand101 wrote:
Production has not gone down the drain. It is fucking astounding how much effort they put into their videos. As I said, no one comes close to what the Kpop world produces in their videos. They are so unique and different, and having a Kpop song as the most viewed video of all time sort of solidifies the fact that people are captivated by the Korean take on the music industry.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 14 2012 18:12 firehand101 wrote:
Suboptimal? No offence intended here, but what the fuck are you on about? Kpop videos are just miles ahead of anything produced in any country anywhere in the world. The first big video released this year in Fantastic Baby set the tone for the whole year, and there have been many videos at that quality or above. In regards to Western videos, I can't think of one that can come close to Fantastic Baby, or many other videos produced by this market.

I'm pretty sure you've been spoilt by all of the wonderful personalities/videos of Kpop and can't really see through that little fog, but Kpop is still miles ahead in terms of production quality and entertainment. There is nothing else like it in the world. Countries watch in awe as they see dance moves executed to perfection, amazing sets and production quality out of this world.

In this day and age, I'm confident that Kpop is the greatest mainstream entertainment being produced


B. a lot of those views are from scripts run by the companies, and views != enjoyment. A lot of people have seen Baby Baby on yt but that doesn't mean they favor the music Bieber makes.
C. you enjoy everything related to genre, hence the term fanboy


A- I don't get it T_T
B- What are scripts lol. and yeah views do indicate enjoyment, but #1 on iTunes in many countries, being nominated for person of the year and performing at American Music awards and countless television shows also contribute (Assuming we are talking about PSY here)
C- I have to say that is virtually true. Although I absolutely hate live non-lip synced performances, and there are a few Kpop songs which I don't like, but yeah for the most part I have enjoyed almost all MV's I've seen

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 19:16 DwD wrote:
Guys why are you arguing about something so simple? It's clear that Kpop is better and bigger than ever. Production down the drain? Never before have I seen so well done MV's etc. T-ara drama versions? Super good production. I think some here are just experience some nostalgia.
Kpop isn't taking the world by storm or anything like that, that however doesn't mean its bigger than ever.

Anyway..........

The MelOn music awards seems to be live. There are a bunch of streams on the LOEN Music channel on youtube. Here is the stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/LOENENT/featured.

Seems it's red carpet right now. Enjoy <3


5/5 for you

Scripts are basically bots ran to give the videos youtube views.
WriterXiao8~~
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
December 14 2012 11:19 GMT
#87611
Whoever is playing the piano is pretty damn badass.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
December 14 2012 11:22 GMT
#87612
I had no idea who this ren was, and thought you were talking about the dark haired man, since I mistook the blonde as Hello Venus's Alice at a glance.

really confused with myself now
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 11:37:05
December 14 2012 11:34 GMT
#87613
Well, happened to stumble upon this on tumblr. So for anyone too lazy, Eunji at the Melon awards.

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+ Show Spoiler [More!] +
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On December 14 2012 20:22 aloT wrote:
I had no idea who this ren was, and thought you were talking about the dark haired man, since I mistook the blonde as Hello Venus's Alice at a glance.

really confused with myself now

It's okay. Everyone mistakes him on the first glance. Unless you're attracted to Alice, and thus Ren...



Also, Yoo Ara.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 14 2012 11:37 GMT
#87614
Damn, Eunji rocking some crazy heels. O_O
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#87615
T-ara Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yes!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Limpet
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom163 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#87616
This Sexy Love with marching band drums and Christmas outfits, now a dubstep Lubby Dubby, oh my..
moimd
Profile Joined April 2012
United States105 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#87617
Melon crowd is not hype for T-ara at all.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 11:52:07
December 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#87618
On December 14 2012 20:47 moimd wrote:
Melon crowd is not hype for T-ara at all.


Of course not, it's only fangirls attending.
You should read the chat lol, it's quite amusing how angry some people are haha.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:23:52
December 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#87619
T-ara was.. Disappointing. Least Hyomin looked pretty damn hot still. Jiyeon was looking good, too. But did they just get black ocean-ed?

Edit: I think it's just that dark. Definitely less cheering for them, and they looked bored performing.
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
December 14 2012 11:59 GMT
#87620
Calling 2012 the greatest year of K-pop is hilarious.
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