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On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's
are you serious Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are. On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.
No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo. On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good. Popular also =! bad. With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3 The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo? Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now. That's 1. out of how many? HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent. Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing) Lee Chae-rin Ha Joo Yeon Miryo Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group) Bekah Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head. Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing.
Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +yes that statistic was made up on the spot
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On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's
are you serious Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are. On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.
No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo. On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good. Popular also =! bad. With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3 The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo? Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now. That's 1. out of how many? HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent. Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing) Lee Chae-rin Ha Joo Yeon Miryo Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group) Bekah Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head. Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing. Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +yes that statistic was made up on the spot of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.
I would like to respectfully disagree that she is a top 5 performer. Her dancing is great, sure, but her vocals live aren't. In fact I think she is the worst live in all of 4Minute.
*edit* Also, I wouldn't say she is one of the most talented girls in kpop. Her success and skill in dancing seems to come from her work ethic, not natural talent (which I admire actually).
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The taintedness is what's going to capture the most eyes.
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On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's
are you serious Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are. On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.
No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo. On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good. Popular also =! bad. With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3 The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo? Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now. That's 1. out of how many? HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent. Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing) Lee Chae-rin Ha Joo Yeon Miryo Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group) Bekah Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head. Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing. Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +yes that statistic was made up on the spot of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.
What? She can't sing but she's one of the most talented in the industry? -___-
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Can't be bothered to count to whatever number Hyuna would be on any list involving Korean entertainment. Top 5? lol
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Hyunah has pretty decent stage presence though
ow and she looks nice obviously.
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Well you'd have to get past all of SNSD; So the highest anyone could be is number 10 performer.
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On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's
are you serious Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are. On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.
No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo. On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good. Popular also =! bad. With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3 The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo? Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now. That's 1. out of how many? HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent. Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing) Lee Chae-rin Ha Joo Yeon Miryo Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group) Bekah Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head. Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing. Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +yes that statistic was made up on the spot of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.
Did I miss something? Is today poor reading comprehension day or something? Why the fuck are people interpreting arguments that aren't there?
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On July 01 2012 15:30 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 11:28 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 01 2012 11:20 Fawkes wrote:On July 01 2012 11:00 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 01 2012 08:30 Tennet wrote:
I don't think I will ever get sick of TTS's album.. Whenever I can't settle on something to listen to I just put it on and I'm content. it pains me to say this, but i agree. Pains you?! You hater! Library and Baby Steps is so good for any occasion! Your inner sone is emerging.  you have to understand, my favorite music has always consisted of 1) the most badass, hard-hitting shit I can find, or 2) classical music with an emphasis on complexity and musical skill. for me to fall in love with K-Pop feels like a betrayal, it's like a Montague running off with a Capulet. Does it? The more about music I learn, classical or otherwise, the more I realize that "complexity and skill" is nonsense. Music is just whatever you like to listen to.
well, i agree and disagree. in my opinion, the ode to joy melody is the greatest musical achievement ever, and that is a very simple melody. the gross fugue is incredibly complex and while i like it, it sounds like shit in a lot of ways. ive never been a huge jazz fan and as it goes that is the most "complex" music going right now and has been for a while. complexity and musical skill does not always translate into enjoyable, but there is objectively more complex music and music that takes more skill to produce and create.
k-pop is very enjoyable, and a lot of it is surprisingly creative, but it clearly is not as complex, nor does it display as much musical skill, as other types of music. skill is not subjective, nor is complexity. enjoyability is entirely subjective though.
/pretentious ramble
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Hyuna is clearly best rapper.
+ Show Spoiler +
It also helps that the raps in 4minute songs are generally less random and fit in the songs better imo.
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On July 02 2012 09:52 ChinaLifeXXL wrote:
Well you'd have to get past all of SNSD; So the highest anyone could be is number 10 performer.
The idea of Yoona being top 10 in anything other than most successful anorexic is hilarious to me.
edit- at dude above me- hard to argue that anyone can be the best rapper when they don't write their own raps.
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What an entertaining and yet entirely bemusing last couple of pages
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Don't know why Hyuna would be in anyone's top 5 performers. I guess it's a hypewagon thing
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I like her as a performer, I just don't think she's talented.
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On July 02 2012 09:56 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 09:52 ChinaLifeXXL wrote:
Well you'd have to get past all of SNSD; So the highest anyone could be is number 10 performer. The idea of Yoona being top 10 in anything other than most successful anorexic is hilarious to me. edit- at dude above me- hard to argue that anyone can be the best rapper when they don't write their own raps.
She's easily top ten soshi member.
+ Show Spoiler +There's only nine of them
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If you want to argue hottest rapper then I think I would go for Bora.
Woori fans don't hurt me'
edit- that's probably true lol. Although that would be true for most girl groups, I doubt alot of them make that much.
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On July 02 2012 10:12 DystopiaX wrote:
If you want to argue hottest rapper then I think I would go for Bora.
Woori fans don't hurt me'
edit- that's probably true lol. Although that would be true for most girl groups, I doubt alot of them make that much.
You crazy boy.
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