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Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
July 02 2012 01:18 GMT
#61061
KMK rap #1. Stop being silly.
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Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 01:27:23
July 02 2012 01:19 GMT
#61062
On July 02 2012 10:12 DystopiaX wrote:
If you want to argue hottest rapper then I think I would go for Bora.

Woori fans don't hurt me'

+ Show Spoiler +
edit- that's probably true lol. Although that would be true for most girl groups, I doubt alot of them make that much
.


i love you + Show Spoiler +
woori
@Lokk_2/Go Woori 우리
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 02 2012 01:23 GMT
#61063
On July 02 2012 10:18 Kaiwa wrote:
KMK rap #1. Stop being silly.

I didnt count her as one, otherwise yes.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17269 Posts
July 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#61064
It's EMCEE not MC.

-_-
twitch.tv/cratonz
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#61065
On July 02 2012 09:38 sgxmitchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's

are you serious


Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are.

On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.


No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo.

On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good.


Popular also =! bad.

With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3


The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo?


Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now.

That's 1. out of how many?

HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent.

Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing)


Lee Chae-rin
Ha Joo Yeon
Miryo
Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group)
Bekah

Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head.

Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing.



Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +
yes that statistic was made up on the spot
of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.


I would like to respectfully disagree that she is a top 5 performer. Her dancing is great, sure, but her vocals live aren't. In fact I think she is the worst live in all of 4Minute.

*edit* Also, I wouldn't say she is one of the most talented girls in kpop. Her success and skill in dancing seems to come from her work ethic, not natural talent (which I admire actually).


Maybe it depends on what you look for in a performance. All I know is she captures my attention like no other girl and its not like she has the greatest proportions out there or is the most beautiful both of course entirely subjective opinions that probably vary amongst all of us depending on our personal preferences but whatever it is she just stands out.

I seriously thought though I was making a post that would get unanimously approved, Iam super shocked that so few people agree. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with is soshified 2.0 xD
BW4LIFE
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
July 02 2012 01:47 GMT
#61066
I don't agree with your ranking or the overall thought you know but I understand what you're saying and I agree with you in that sense.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
July 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#61067
minah #1 everything if your opinion differs from mine you're a disgusting idiot pleb
seumdwa
Profile Joined June 2011
United States133 Posts
July 02 2012 01:56 GMT
#61068
Best idol rapper right here. Rapper in the underground hiphop scene among prior to her debut with EXID. She's pretty good looking without that blonde hair style too.
+ Show Spoiler [LE (EXID)] +



Skip to 2:39 for second vid.

에이핑크 | http://seumdwa.minus.com/
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 02 2012 02:01 GMT
#61069
On July 02 2012 10:38 Craton wrote:
It's EMCEE not MC.

-_-

master of ceremonies = MC, no?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
July 02 2012 02:03 GMT
#61070
On July 02 2012 11:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:38 Craton wrote:
It's EMCEE not MC.

-_-

master of ceremonies = MC, no?

He's saying for rappers, it's emcee not MC.
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:11:20
July 02 2012 02:10 GMT
#61071
MC = Microphone Controller.
dbg
Profile Joined June 2012
Colombia264 Posts
July 02 2012 02:13 GMT
#61072
all semantics bro
every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 02:26:35
July 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#61073
On July 02 2012 10:40 ChoiSulli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 09:38 sgxmitchy wrote:
On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's

are you serious


Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are.

On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.


No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo.

On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good.


Popular also =! bad.

With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3


The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo?


Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now.

That's 1. out of how many?

HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent.

Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing)


Lee Chae-rin
Ha Joo Yeon
Miryo
Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group)
Bekah

Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head.

Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing.



Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +
yes that statistic was made up on the spot
of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.


I would like to respectfully disagree that she is a top 5 performer. Her dancing is great, sure, but her vocals live aren't. In fact I think she is the worst live in all of 4Minute.

*edit* Also, I wouldn't say she is one of the most talented girls in kpop. Her success and skill in dancing seems to come from her work ethic, not natural talent (which I admire actually).


Maybe it depends on what you look for in a performance. All I know is she captures my attention like no other girl and its not like she has the greatest proportions out there or is the most beautiful both of course entirely subjective opinions that probably vary amongst all of us depending on our personal preferences but whatever it is she just stands out.

I seriously thought though I was making a post that would get unanimously approved, Iam super shocked that so few people agree. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with is soshified 2.0 xD


So now whenever someone disagrees with you it's cause we're like soshified? I admit to using that line but it's becoming overused, especially how you used it here. Liking or not liking snsd would have nothing to do with it, and disagreeing with you does not make the quality of posts so shitty that they can be compared to ssf.
isueyou2
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada52 Posts
July 02 2012 02:37 GMT
#61074
Woori Best Rapper
Hyna is ok but the weird high pitch stuff is meh..
And bombs going off as it is canada day
gosu
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 02 2012 03:22 GMT
#61075
On July 02 2012 11:24 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 10:40 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 09:38 sgxmitchy wrote:
On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:
now your calling them MC's

are you serious


Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are.

On July 02 2012 08:06 DystopiaX wrote:
They're not there because they can rap, they rap because they'd be there anyway.


No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo.

On July 02 2012 08:03 dbg wrote:Pitbull is popular and a "cultural phenomenon" too, but that doesn't mean he's good. Popular != good.


Popular also =! bad.

With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3


The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo?


Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now.

That's 1. out of how many?

HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent.

Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing)


Lee Chae-rin
Ha Joo Yeon
Miryo
Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group)
Bekah

Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head.

Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing.



Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +
yes that statistic was made up on the spot
of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.


I would like to respectfully disagree that she is a top 5 performer. Her dancing is great, sure, but her vocals live aren't. In fact I think she is the worst live in all of 4Minute.

*edit* Also, I wouldn't say she is one of the most talented girls in kpop. Her success and skill in dancing seems to come from her work ethic, not natural talent (which I admire actually).


Maybe it depends on what you look for in a performance. All I know is she captures my attention like no other girl and its not like she has the greatest proportions out there or is the most beautiful both of course entirely subjective opinions that probably vary amongst all of us depending on our personal preferences but whatever it is she just stands out.

I seriously thought though I was making a post that would get unanimously approved, Iam super shocked that so few people agree. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with is soshified 2.0 xD


So now whenever someone disagrees with you it's cause we're like soshified? I admit to using that line but it's becoming overused, especially how you used it here. Liking or not liking snsd would have nothing to do with it, and disagreeing with you does not make the quality of posts so shitty that they can be compared to ssf.


I havent followed this thread that closely the last thousand pages or so, so I might be missing something here but I purely ment it as a harmless joke. I have never read anything on soshified, so I wouldnt even know what comparisons there are to be made. Comparing KMD to soshified has been a running gag. Posters sometimes reference those things to fit in, to show they are part of the community. I guess if your new and unaware of the threads history you would you get offended by it, which occasionally happens since its always someones first time reading this thread. You've been here a while so I dont know why you would assume that its anything other then a harmless jab.

So to answer your question, no you are not like soshified just because you disagree with me, I was just trying to make a joke that I assumed would be understood by those who frequent this thread. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
BW4LIFE
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 02 2012 03:33 GMT
#61076
Do not sully the great name of KMD, sulli. Jokes are encouraged, but please direct them at sones where possible, as per the eternal unwritten thread rules.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 03:46:40
July 02 2012 03:35 GMT
#61077
@ChoiSulli: You must be new here
Makes "harmless" jab at snsd.
DemigodcelpH wrote:
Please don't talk about subjects you aren't educated about.
DemigodcelpH wrote:They're intentionally added in whether you like it or not, so don't disregard them as "backups" out of ignorance. That's disrepectful to kpop, and the groups.
On July 02 2012 07:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 07:22 TuElite wrote:
Hey demigod, who do you like the most in females idols "rappers" ?

Unfortunately I'm not very good with names, and my kpop experience isn't the best. I usually just follow the popular singles and hits, and what I hear Slayers_Dragon play on his stream.

KMD is ignorant about kpop but he's watched some sc2 streams so he knows things man.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 03:40:48
July 02 2012 03:40 GMT
#61078
On July 02 2012 12:22 ChoiSulli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 10:40 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 09:38 sgxmitchy wrote:
On July 02 2012 09:35 ChoiSulli wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:22 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:19 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:16 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 02 2012 08:08 DemigodcelpH wrote:
[quote]

Do you know the definition of MC? Gilme (popular female korean rapper) is an MC, just as the rappers in popular kpop groups are.

[quote]

No you're missing the point. This is false. If any of that were true then many female korean MCs would not go solo.

[quote]

Popular also =! bad.

With that said I value the opinion of S. Korea more than you. <3


The fuck? Which idol rapper has gone solo?


Lee Chae-rin rapped a lot in 2NE1 and has had many solo projects now.

That's 1. out of how many?

HyunA's gotten a solo as well but I wouldn't say she has talent.

Look, it's not the people with the most talent that get solos all the time but the most popular. CL got a solo because YG knew she was popular and so gave her a solo. Not to mention that YG is known to be an exception in the industry by recruiting those with talent as well as looks (see GD doing the same thing)


Lee Chae-rin
Ha Joo Yeon
Miryo
Zinger (free-styled rapped BEFORE she even joined any kpop group)
Bekah

Are all female rappers from popular kpop groups that have had solo projects. And that's just off the top of my head.

Any questions? Discredit all you want, but hiphop's influence in modern kpop is here to stay, amazing, and what defines it (coincidentally when this all started showing up kpop started getting extremely popular). And even despite any female rappers in kpop groups modern kpop is still influenced by hiphop (or R&B) in many other ways such as attire, singing style, and dancing.



Wait I'ma let you 2 finish but HyunA is one of the most talented girls in all of kpop. Ya maybe she cant sing but neither can 90% + Show Spoiler +
yes that statistic was made up on the spot
of the other girls in the industry. When its comes to performing though she is easily top 5 on everyone's list. So you gotta be a bit more specific dystopia if you are talking about singing then im in agreement but thats not what makes an idol. If you throw HyunA on stage with your choice of idols her stage presence is guaranteed to capture the most eyes.


I would like to respectfully disagree that she is a top 5 performer. Her dancing is great, sure, but her vocals live aren't. In fact I think she is the worst live in all of 4Minute.

*edit* Also, I wouldn't say she is one of the most talented girls in kpop. Her success and skill in dancing seems to come from her work ethic, not natural talent (which I admire actually).


Maybe it depends on what you look for in a performance. All I know is she captures my attention like no other girl and its not like she has the greatest proportions out there or is the most beautiful both of course entirely subjective opinions that probably vary amongst all of us depending on our personal preferences but whatever it is she just stands out.

I seriously thought though I was making a post that would get unanimously approved, Iam super shocked that so few people agree. Only reasonable explanation I can come up with is soshified 2.0 xD


So now whenever someone disagrees with you it's cause we're like soshified? I admit to using that line but it's becoming overused, especially how you used it here. Liking or not liking snsd would have nothing to do with it, and disagreeing with you does not make the quality of posts so shitty that they can be compared to ssf.


I havent followed this thread that closely the last thousand pages or so, so I might be missing something here but I purely ment it as a harmless joke. I have never read anything on soshified, so I wouldnt even know what comparisons there are to be made. Comparing KMD to soshified has been a running gag. Posters sometimes reference those things to fit in, to show they are part of the community. I guess if your new and unaware of the threads history you would you get offended by it, which occasionally happens since its always someones first time reading this thread. You've been here a while so I dont know why you would assume that its anything other then a harmless jab.

So to answer your question, no you are not like soshified just because you disagree with me, I was just trying to make a joke that I assumed would be understood by those who frequent this thread. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Sorry it was an overreaction from me. Although it was weird to use in that context because the SSF joke is more used when there's blind SNSD fanboyism going around (see "no one hotter"/"goddess") or blatant shitposting (ex: "OMG HYUNA IS SUCH A SLUT") and not just when people disagree with you.

also xeno is right, no barb at SNSD goes unpunished here lol.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#61079
It wasn't a jab at snsd was it? He was comparing kmd to soshified, which is I imagine one of the worst places on the internet.

The reason we should be angry is he was implying that because we aren't all aboard the Hyuna train that we are all rabid sones. People have died for less.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#61080
Miryo best female idol rapper, no contest. Also, this entire discussion the last few pages seemed to pop up really randomly, kind of like this

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