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sharky246
1197 Posts
Omg omg omg im the pagetopper (ie im first post on page), by accident ofcourse. Too bad im posting from my phone, i cant post pics of some hot NATURAL BEAUTY idols that i had in mind. | ||
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Purpl3
United States1067 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:17 sharky246 wrote: "Call an emergency" is wrong grammar. Should be "the" instead of "an" Omg omg omg im the pagetopper, by accident ofcourse. Too bad im posting from my phone, i cant post pics of some hot NATURAL BEAUTY idols that i had in mind. "No 'pagetopping' in any form whatsoever, as it constitutes spam equal to posts similar to 'first'." | ||
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KroplaBeskidu
1093 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:25 Purpl3 wrote: "No 'pagetopping' in any form whatsoever, as it constitutes spam equal to posts similar to 'first'." I say we should just start banning whoever tops the page, that would solve the problem once and for all | ||
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IMHope
Korea (South)1241 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:31 KroplaBeskidu wrote: I say we should just start banning whoever tops the page, that would solve the problem once and for all I like the way you think lol | ||
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Purpl3
United States1067 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:31 KroplaBeskidu wrote: I say we should just start banning whoever tops the page, that would solve the problem once and for all Just ban everyone who posts in here. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
1. The Boys performance+ remix was ok I think, still not diggin the song though 2.More Importantly: NOOOOO Mong Ji Hyo why, at least don't get caught while secretly dating ^^ | ||
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TaeYuTiCaYoo
United States10 Posts
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/02/brown-eyed-girls-ga-in-poses-in-lingerie-for-yes | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On February 01 2012 16:57 Radioman wrote: I'm not trying to justify the lyrics by calling it American pop I'm just letting you know that it's American pop and song lyrics have been shit for a long long time. EDIT: Maybe I'm just tired of people complaining about things in general. "What you gon' do with all that junk? All that junk inside that trunk?/I'ma get, get, get, get, you drunk, Get you love drunk off my hump." EDIT2: One of my personal favorites from another lady trying to break into the American scene "Lucky that my lips not only mumble/ They spill kisses like a fountain/ Lucky that my breasts are small and humble/ So you don't confuse them with mountains" Even if those lyrics aren't shakespearean masterpieces they're still more coherent than: "We're born to win. Better tell all your friends. 'Cause we get it in" "I know life is a mystery. I'm gonna make history. I'm taking it from the start. Call an emergency. I'm watching the phone ring" | ||
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
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Demizzle
Australia397 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:03 DystopiaX wrote: The boys lyrics? No idea what they're trying to say. The Boys in English makes absolutely perfect sense when you give it a chance. It's essentially about the relation to the evolution of sex in Korean media, and the releasing of traditional roles, morals, ethics, and values as pre-determined by SK Culture. We can see this straight from the beginning of the MV wherein Jessica is seen releasing the white dove seen below ![[image loading]](http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt9x2isgL11qa69wso1_r1_500.gif) Here the white dove represents exactly that; them releasing themselves from the traditionalist [read: purist] ideas set out by the general culture. This is heavily contrasted with the Black backdrop as well as the falling red petals (red most often used to create either a sense of violence, rage and frustration, or passion and love in relation to the context at hand) Now the opening line I can tell you're looking at me I know what you see Any closer and you'll feel the heat. The heat in this line is suggestive of the negative media attention which will be garnered by an attempt at becoming more 'Westernised' and them stripping themselves of their traditional values which they know themselves will stir up controversy. Westernised because of the consistent and constant feminist movements which sees little exposure comparatively. How this actually happens is in relation to the very purist, negative look the media gives towards the use of sex. Porn is banned, people work incredibly long hours, and their morals look down on this idea of selling ones body, even expressing ones ideas and hopes if they don't meet the standard set by the hierarchical family trees. However, it has been becoming increasingly more popular in the past decades. This is fairly natural as they're a choked, restricted, prudish by nature; expressing ones natural human lust is looked down on. Breaking the rules becomes more popular and the more they're let to get away with, the more they want to break free from people's expectations of them. The following line You don't have to pretend that you didn't notice me Every look will make it hard to breathe gives us the impression that they know they're stirring up controversy, they want to stir up controversy, and they like the attention. The filler lines bring the boys out will come into play later. The lines Soon as I step on the scene I know that they'll be watching me, watching me, I'mma be the hottest in this spot, There ain't no stopping me just goes to further this idea of sparking controversy, drawing attention, and breaking away from the traditional roles. The use of the slang imma and ain't are further suggestive of them dropping their SK morals and ethics in search of more westernised ideals. The follow-up of I know life is a mystery, I'm gonna make history, I'm taking it from the start is suggestive of the idea of breaking the traditional roles. This primarily ties in with the earlier line bring the boys out which is repeated. It's the main stick. The idea of bringing the boys out suggests that in their eyes, the boys are no longer the dominant force in society as traditional roles have so often kept it. No longer are the women coming second to the men; instead, they are mere boys. They're beneath the girls, the dominatrixes if you will as evidenced by their leather-clad outfits and now it's their time to shine. This is also enforced by the use of high angle lighting which gives them the actual look of being in the 'spotlight'. All attention is on them. They're making history by completely shifting the roles in society, they're taking it from the start. It's a mystery. This is a huge jump in lifestyle and no-one knows how it will be received, interpreted, or pan out. Now we break into what could be considered the chorus. Girls generation make you feel the heat. Heat. The fury, the passion in which they are asserting this new dominating role, message etc. And we're doin' it, we can't be beat, B-Bring the boys out This shows their continuous attitude throughout the MV. They've established an assertive nature, they're aggressive and confident, both in their message and in themselves. They think they're the anything and everything and they're not gonna be held back by the 'men' of society any more. This leads up to the rap segment beginning with I wanna dance right now, We can show 'em how the girls get down Rapping is used rather than singing because it partners well with the idea that the girls are breaking the boundaries and it ain't no boys club any more; It's their turf now as rap has always been a predominantly male dominated scene. This goes to give an idea of how serious the girls are about their message. Males have always been the traditional warriors and protectors in society and in a very animalistic way, as the alpha males must be defeated in combat before a new alpha male can claim the thrones, the girls are again suggesting that they will take the fight to the boys, and beat them. At their own game. Yes we go for more than zero, Number 1 everyone should know is again a suggestive line relating to the woman's place in a families hierarchy. Who came first? The dad. Then after him, the kids (always sons before daughters), and lastly the mothers. This has been the established idea for centuries at least. However, they're sick and tired of it. No longer are they going to stand by and be mistreated. They're the pants-wearers in the relationships, they sit at the head of the dinner table now. Following this up is the line All the boys all the boys want my heart, Better know how to rock 'n' don't stop, Gee, We make you so hot, Girls' Generation we won't stop. This again suggests that the girls are now taking the dominant position in society. It's theirs, and we can either keep up with them and meet their requirements better know how to rock 'n' don't stop on their terms, under their conditions. They make us hot with fear, anxiety, rage, whatever irrational, male emotions they can associate and pretty much say' you can't stop us now' It's not a fantasy, This is right for me, Livin' it like a star, Can't get the rest of me, I'mma be what I wanna be, This is deep in my heart This line is suggestive of it being real. This ain't no joke, the girls are here and they're taking over. They're the stars, it's their spotlight now. They'll do what they want, whether we like it or not. It's deep in their hearts, these are their believes. We may not agree with them but they will fight to the death to defend them. Additionally a lot of the dancing in this sequence uses lots of sharp motions and thrusts, suggesting violent tendencies. After this is just a follow up, repetition of their main views and goals. Sort of like the conclusion to an essay/speech/document. tl;dr Ain't that hard. Just gotta look at the context. Sex is looked down on, we're breaking that barrier and reversing the roles of women and men in society. It's a feminist movement taken to extreme levels. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
It's obvious they wrote the song with rhythm and phrasing of the Korean lyrics in mind. Then they had to write English lyrics that fit into the same rhythm and phrasing, which is why it's choppy and has no overarching theme. The song was written to be easily converted into an English song (well, at least the chorus was), which makes it bad on both sides (Kpop and American pop) of the spectrum. It's neither K or A pop, it's floating in the grey area in between. Just like those pants that had the zip off part to become shorts. You could have pants, or you could zip off the end of it to make shorts, but it was shitty at both jobs. | ||
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Purpl3
United States1067 Posts
On February 01 2012 17:43 TaeYuTiCaYoo wrote: AMG need bigger res/HD versions of these pics http://www.allkpop.com/2012/02/brown-eyed-girls-ga-in-poses-in-lingerie-for-yes wtb these | ||
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Kamatari
165 Posts
:/ Did the lyricist actually say that or is that what you imagine it to be? | ||
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Demizzle
Australia397 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:17 Purpl3 wrote: How long did it take you to write that? IDK, 15 minutes? Either way, no-one's gonna read it but I'm pretty bored atm with the US LOL server down for maintenance and all my friends playing BF3 while I wait for my new computer so w/e heh On February 01 2012 18:18 Kamatari wrote: You're putting too much context/meaning on a crappy song from last year. :/ Did the lyricist actually say that or is that what you imagine it to be? Unless and until the writers and composers begin telling us their exact thought processes when writing music, we will never truly understand what any song is really about. This is part of why I think girl band rappers suck [extending from the earlier topics]. Music, especially rap, is often about ones experiences, sending a message, or telling a story. And when a singer such as Eunjung or Zinger is handed a page of pre-determined lyrics from a pre-determined writer, set to a pre-determined BPM and rhythm, girl band rappers will never be able to express their true meanings with any emotion which is why girl rappers in k-pop bands always come off as weak and uninteresting. This is also true for male rappers, but they've got the more masculine voices which fits the style better anyway. With the exception of GD and TOP who actually have some input into their own damn music. I listen to kpop because I don't give 2 toss what they're saying which is why I can't stand Western pop. It makes me feel like my brain is melting. | ||
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Pulselol
Canada1628 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:20 Demizzle wrote: IDK, 15 minutes? Either way, no-one's gonna read it but I'm pretty bored atm with the US LOL server down for maintenance and all my friends playing BF3 while I wait for my new computer so w/e heh Unless and until the writers and composers begin telling us their exact thought processes when writing music, we will never truly understand what any song is really about. This is part of why I think girl band rappers suck [extending from the earlier topics]. Music, especially rap, is often about ones experiences, sending a message, or telling a story. And when a singer such as Eunjung or Zinger is handed a page of pre-determined lyrics from a pre-determined writer, set to a pre-determined BPM and rhythm, girl band rappers will never be able to express their true meanings with any emotion which is why girl rappers in k-pop bands always come off as weak and uninteresting. This is also true for male rappers, but they've got the more masculine voices which fits the style better anyway. With the exception of GD and TOP who actually have some input into their own damn music. I listen to kpop because I don't give 2 toss what they're saying which is why I can't stand Western pop. It makes me feel like my brain is melting. I read it all because of the same reason as well (was in the middle of a fucking game, fuck you riot). | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Demizzle
Australia397 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:25 Pulselol wrote: I read it all because of the same reason as well (was in the middle of a fucking game, fuck you riot). Lewl ranked or normal? And does the song make sense to you now? It still doesn't stop the song from being shit, but does it at least make sense? :D (Admittedly I enjoy the song now after seeing it performed at the Sydney kpop music fest but that's mainly more because of the atmosphere and the attitude of the performance than the merit of the song itself) | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:16 seiferoth10 wrote: This thread went to shit pretty fast. The thread started in 2009 so if you think it went to shit now it's not really that fast. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:29 Demizzle wrote: Lewl ranked or normal? And does the song make sense to you now? It still doesn't stop the song from being shit, but does it at least make sense? :D (Admittedly I enjoy the song now after seeing it performed at the Sydney kpop music fest but that's mainly more because of the atmosphere and the attitude of the performance than the merit of the song itself) For a second I saw this and thought that I was wrong about that previous post being a joke, then I realized that you were continuing to fuck with me here, and as I'm typing this am wondering if this is true or if you're really being sincere all along. | ||
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Pulselol
Canada1628 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:29 Demizzle wrote: Lewl ranked or normal? And does the song make sense to you now? It still doesn't stop the song from being shit, but does it at least make sense? :D (Admittedly I enjoy the song now after seeing it performed at the Sydney kpop music fest but that's mainly more because of the atmosphere and the attitude of the performance than the merit of the song itself) The song always made sense to me, it wasn't like I was mentally deficient enough to claim that it doesn't make sense at all, just that the poor grammar and all around bad translation irked me slightly - not going to lie, I don't like it too much. Was playing normal (still grinding account up but I'm maintaining like a 75% win/loss so it shouldn't be too bad). | ||
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