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On July 29 2011 04:59 Kaiwa wrote: Fuck man. I got to stop reading fan accounts of SNSD Seoul concert. I'm getting depressed here... Pretty much my entire day has been FML
Joint suicide? It seems like pretty much the best SNSD performance there ever will be.........WHY CAN I NOT HAVE BEEN THERE?
Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
After reading the first sentence i was going to agree somewhat, but after reading the hold thing...yeah thats abit too much man
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
Alright so here I go: I got introduced with Korean culture (SNSD, dúh!) by SC2 (more specifically: TheGunRun). I heard Gee on GLHF.tv stream right? First few times I was like okay thats cool I suppose... Few streams more and hearing it more and more. The clip was entertaining and I found more and more songs. Creating a playlist of SNSD. Then I found After School, T-ara and KARA...
Right now, I don't know exactly how many months later, I'm obsessed man. FOR REAL! My wallpaper is an SNSD rotation of (~240+ wallpapers), I bought a 8 part (A3) poster of SNSD from Ebay. Like 1.5 by 1 meter or something, and I LOVE it.
I used to listen to like hardstyle/hardcore types of music a lot. I'm a programmer, so naturally I get stressed a lot if I've had a horrible day of coding (shit not working). And i'd use that music to just calm down and relax (strange I know...). Now however, my playlist consists of 500+ K-pop songs and I only listen to that.
I'm obsessed with Korea, I'm paying monthly for Korean Classes and I love every minute of it. Like 6 years ago I got German and French in school as any other Dutch student in high school and it was the worst. I hate learning languages, I can't do it, I'm horrible at it. Why is Korean different for me?!
At the moment I'm working my ass of in my holiday to get enough money to go to Korea next year, and it is my goal to go see an SNSD concert live. Who knows, I might even go to their concert in the 2nd Asia tour Singapore and visit Seoul later.
Lastly, I'm making preparations and plans to setup a Internship plan for my school to consider. I want to Intern at NCSoft Korea (I heard they accept interns) and man. If that's possible, it'll rock my world.
tl;dr. I'm obsessed, I feel like it's my guilty pleasure while shouting it out loud to whoever will listen.
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
After reading the first sentence i was going to agree somewhat, but after reading the hold thing...yeah thats abit too much man
Pretty normal if you ask me. Watching two hours of shows a night and donating to support something of interest is nothing out of the ordinary =\ The other stuff is also nothing out of the ordinary =p
Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
TBH it may be in your best interest to scale it back. I browsed over that long account and to me, it's nuts that any grown man or woman would go to those lengths to be entertained (I'm hesitant to use the word 'dupe' here) by entertainers. I mean, more power to you if that's how and where you want to invest yourself. I have no intention of patronizing anyone for their likes. I mean, obviously I follow the scene to a certain extent. I would just caution that you do not allow it to become this fantasy that manifests itself inside your head, because it will taint your view of reality and what a real woman is.
But hey, at least you're going to the gym more. That'll get you a girl like ones posted in here. Watching videos all day and going to a concert won't
Take it easy with the obsession/immersion. You can get burned out really easily. ----
Awesome writeup moonwrath ^^
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On July 28 2011 12:27 DystopiaX wrote: Yeah but can any of them actualy play instruments?
(*) Yuri got obsessed about playing acoustic guitar for ages. (*) Taeyeon promised to learn the guitar and play for the Chin Chin family when she finally returns to Taeyeon's Chin Chin radio show. (*) Jessica recently started learning piano intensively and played at concert.
(*) Tiffany's been a flautist for a long time. Pre-DC08, she was able to play the melody of ITNW in one take. Hope she's been practising. (*) Seohyun's the best instrument player, but it's still iffy. She was about Grade 6-8 standard a few years ago. Showed little emotion in her playing, too... although I blame the Korean methods of teaching instruments where they almost crush creativity in favour of mechanical accuracy. + Show Spoiler +
I almost punched my temporary violin teacher in the face when she told me to play through the crotchets in a Mozart.
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Sistar's so awesome. They've got some incredible pipes in Hyorin... and the single fastest idol in the entire country in Bora.
On July 28 2011 12:27 DystopiaX wrote: Yeah but can any of them actualy play instruments?
(*) Yuri got obsessed about playing acoustic guitar for ages. (*) Taeyeon promised to learn the guitar and play for the Chin Chin family when she finally returns to Taeyeon's Chin Chin radio show. (*) Jessica recently started learning piano intensively and played at concert.
(*) Tiffany's been a flautist for a long time. Pre-DC08, she was able to play the melody of ITNW in one take. Hope she's been practising. (*) Seohyun's the best instrument player, but it's still iffy. She was about Grade 6-8 standard a few years ago. Showed little emotion in her playing, too... although I blame the Korean methods of teaching instruments where they almost crush creativity in favour of mechanical accuracy. + Show Spoiler +
I almost punched my temporary violin teacher in the face when she told me to play through the crotchets in a Mozart.
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Sistar's so awesome. They've got some incredible pipes in Hyorin... and the single fastest idol in the entire country in Bora.
The dude I was quoting was talking about a rock/metal SNSD subgroup, and flutes/pianos don't really work with that. Also, obsessed with and being able to play a guitar are 2 different things...I'd be really surprised if they could take the time to learn given their schedules.
edit- also I believe Hara and Bora went head to head in a race once and Hara won. And yeah Hyorin is amazing. Looks weird from certain angles but she can legit sing. Surprised she wasn't debuted as a solo singer cause she's got the talent for it.
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
What is the connection between getting into kpop and going to the gym more and gaming less?
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
What is the connection between getting into kpop and going to the gym more and gaming less?
I imagine its like the connection between playing violent vidya games and going on real life shooting sprees.
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
What is the connection between getting into kpop and going to the gym more and gaming less?
Cause you ain't getting with Jessica, if you got a beer belly ^_^
or a bank account which does not have 6 digits after the first number for that matter.......
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
Tiffany's my fav too! I check this thread almost every day haha. I also have a kpop playlist that I listen to from time to time and keep updated whenever I hear a good song in this thread/on stream. I think obsession is tolerable as long as you are not harming anyone other than yourself. So as long as you are not grabbing the girls on stage and proposing to them, don't feel too bad!
On July 29 2011 08:13 oniontaker wrote: Take it easy with the obsession/immersion. You can get burned out really easily. ----
Awesome writeup moonwrath ^^
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On July 28 2011 12:27 DystopiaX wrote: Yeah but can any of them actualy play instruments?
(*) Yuri got obsessed about playing acoustic guitar for ages. (*) Taeyeon promised to learn the guitar and play for the Chin Chin family when she finally returns to Taeyeon's Chin Chin radio show. (*) Jessica recently started learning piano intensively and played at concert.
(*) Tiffany's been a flautist for a long time. Pre-DC08, she was able to play the melody of ITNW in one take. Hope she's been practising. (*) Seohyun's the best instrument player, but it's still iffy. She was about Grade 6-8 standard a few years ago. Showed little emotion in her playing, too... although I blame the Korean methods of teaching instruments where they almost crush creativity in favour of mechanical accuracy. + Show Spoiler +
I almost punched my temporary violin teacher in the face when she told me to play through the crotchets in a Mozart.
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Sistar's so awesome. They've got some incredible pipes in Hyorin... and the single fastest idol in the entire country in Bora.
The dude I was quoting was talking about a rock/metal SNSD subgroup, and flutes/pianos don't really work with that. Also, obsessed with and being able to play a guitar are 2 different things...I'd be really surprised if they could take the time to learn given their schedules.
edit- also I believe Hara and Bora went head to head in a race once and Hara won. And yeah Hyorin is amazing. Looks weird from certain angles but she can legit sing. Surprised she wasn't debuted as a solo singer cause she's got the talent for it.
I wasn't arguing with the instrument thing. I was just telling you the limits of what they can do. Yuri probably won't. She likes starting things but never manages to finish them lol.
Bora and Hara have never raced head-to-head, as far as I know. The only time they were running the same distance was during IY but they were in two separate heats, both at least ten meters ahead of the people coming in at second place. You can't compare times in two separate races like that ._.
On July 29 2011 06:07 Waterhaak wrote: Today I started wondering wether I might be a little too obsessed or not, so I think it would be fun to ask you guys/girls if you feel like you are obsessed about any group and do you think it's a really bad thing or if it's okay. I'll start; I started thinking about it after reading the fanaccount, reading it felt really weird. Lately I have changed everything to something SNSD-related I could. I jailbroke my iphone so I can use a videowallpaper from the daum screensavers, I downloaded custom ps3 SNSD theme's, my desktop is SNSD, 70% of the music I listen to is SNSD. I'm a donor over at SSF wich is the first thing I ever donated to, I wrote a birthday message for Tiffany's birthday because she's my fav. Every night I watch about 2 hours of shows that either have SNSD in them or sometimes T-ara. Most of my time I spend searching websites that are related to kpop. This all makes me feel somewhat awkward with myself, but it isn't all bad. Since I got really into kpop I've started going to the gym alot more, atleast 8 hours a week. Instead of spending ~70hours a week gaming I hardly play 10 hours a week now. I really want to do a good job with my studies when college starts in september. So how do you guys feel about this and please share your own story so I feel less awkward.
I think obsession is tolerable as long as you are not harming anyone other than yourself.
ROFL
As for me, I watch some performances/concerts from time to time, mostly the big singles. Tho I watch all performances by KARA (fav. group). I also download some of the albums but I don't listen to KPop munch, just when I play poker or something and want background music but nothing too distracting like rap for example. I watch every TV show/ad or anything that Nicole is on and I collect pictures.
I guess I fair fairly well on the obsession chart.
On July 29 2011 08:13 oniontaker wrote: Take it easy with the obsession/immersion. You can get burned out really easily. ----
Awesome writeup moonwrath ^^
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On July 28 2011 12:27 DystopiaX wrote: Yeah but can any of them actualy play instruments?
(*) Yuri got obsessed about playing acoustic guitar for ages. (*) Taeyeon promised to learn the guitar and play for the Chin Chin family when she finally returns to Taeyeon's Chin Chin radio show. (*) Jessica recently started learning piano intensively and played at concert.
(*) Tiffany's been a flautist for a long time. Pre-DC08, she was able to play the melody of ITNW in one take. Hope she's been practising. (*) Seohyun's the best instrument player, but it's still iffy. She was about Grade 6-8 standard a few years ago. Showed little emotion in her playing, too... although I blame the Korean methods of teaching instruments where they almost crush creativity in favour of mechanical accuracy. + Show Spoiler +
I almost punched my temporary violin teacher in the face when she told me to play through the crotchets in a Mozart.
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Sistar's so awesome. They've got some incredible pipes in Hyorin... and the single fastest idol in the entire country in Bora.
The dude I was quoting was talking about a rock/metal SNSD subgroup, and flutes/pianos don't really work with that. Also, obsessed with and being able to play a guitar are 2 different things...I'd be really surprised if they could take the time to learn given their schedules.
edit- also I believe Hara and Bora went head to head in a race once and Hara won. And yeah Hyorin is amazing. Looks weird from certain angles but she can legit sing. Surprised she wasn't debuted as a solo singer cause she's got the talent for it.
I wasn't arguing with the instrument thing. I was just telling you the limits of what they can do. Yuri probably won't. She likes starting things but never manages to finish them lol.
Bora and Hara have never raced head-to-head, as far as I know. The only time they were running the same distance was during IY but they were in two separate heats, both at least ten meters ahead of the people coming in at second place. You can't compare times in two separate races like that ._.
Yes you can, they set up the separate vids side by side, started at the same time, and Hara won.
About the obsession stuff, its not as much the obsession itself, its what you let it do to your life. If you can maintain a realistic perspective on the groups you like and the life you lead and it doesn't negatively impact yourself or others then I wouldn't even call it obsession. Everyone expresses themselves differently and surrounding oneself with things they care about is just one of many ways. (hell, just look at Tiffany and the colour pink lol) Just like people who spazz about their idols aren't bigger fans than those that don't. People who devote time to their passions are not necessarily obsessed.
In some other somewhat interesting news
Lee Soo-man, chairman of S.M. Entertainment, said Wednesday (July 27) although K-pop is increasingly popular around the world, it needs a strong boost in the local market first, to further advance to the next level.
The local music market needs a new digital music distribution platform - an iTunes-like one or an entirely different one - not only to allow purchasing digital music and globally sharing music for free but to give profits to songwriters from corporate marketing and advertisement, he said.
His comments came during a conversation with Culture Minister Choung Byoung-gug, after receiving a plaque of appreciation from the Culture Ministry for accelerating the Korean Wave through K-pop promotions for the past 10 years.
S.M. Entertainment, founded by Lee, is the nation's largest entertainment agency to which K-pop idol groups like Super Junior and Girls' Generation belong.
Its concert "S.M. Town Live in Paris" in June boosted European youth's craze for K-pop.
"We're promoting idol groups through social networking sites such as YouTube and Facebook. It was important to hold concerts overseas, like the recent one in Paris. But now is the time to enhance the local market," Lee said to Choung at the minister's office in Seoul.
"The reason our singers like BoA and H.O.T. were successful in overseas markets was that we had accumulated capital in the local market before they went overseas," he said.
Lee was responding to Choung's comment that the Korean government plans to set up a space in the Korean Cultural Center in Paris to encourage European fans to enjoy K-pop.
Earlier on Friday(July 22), Lee said he would donate 1 million won (US$950) to the cultural center in appreciation for the center's cooperation in holding S.M.'s Paris concert.
To boost the local market and curb illegal downloads of music, Korea can make a new digital music platform which allows songwriters or producers to offer their new songs for free, on the condition that a corporate ad can be inserted, Lee said.
"Utilising advertisement and marketing, we can induce 100 million clicks, for example, on Girls' Generation's new song by offering it for free for two or three months after a release," Lee said.
"A high number of clicks will lead to a global exchange of K-pop, which will also lead to a virtuous circle of capital. Culture can lead the economy."
Choung noted that when he visited Paris and met with French fans of K-pop in June, he found that most of them had originally been interested in learning the Korean language.
"While they were trying to learn Korean language easily with K-pop, they fell in love with the music. Their friends, who heard K-pop was good, were starting to take Korean language lessons to know K-pop better," Choung said.
In response, Lee suggested Korea make an international hallyu school in Korea to invite and teach foreigners about Korean pop culture.
"What we have to be really careful about is that if the government organizations recklessly support poor quality hallyu concerts riding on the Korean Wave, it might give overseas fans a wrong first impression that there was nothing special about K-pop. Then, it will be very difficult to change their impression," Lee said.
Lee also hinted that S.M. Entertainment and one of Korea's leading conglomerates may team up for a new project.
"I think our company, as a leader (in the entertainment industry), should devise a new plan with a leader in business," he said.
On the obsession thing, I find that doing something you love can never be a bad thing. As long as you aren't harming yourself physically or emotionally, why not enjoy what you love? It really goes for anything. Since I found out about Kpop I have learned a lot about Korea, started to learn the language, met some amazing people, and had the time of my life on this trip. Loving an idol group and being a fan can be positive or negative, it really depends on how far you go. Me personally, being an SNSD fan has improved my life dramatically. They just give you a lot of positive energy. I don't see how anyone can knock on someone for being involved in something they care deeply about, especially when it legitimately is a positive influence.