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On February 01 2011 08:19 tonight wrote:
Man, I have no idea what you guys have been talking about the last pages ~
Haha, you can thank me for derailing around 6/7 pages ago ;D. Was kinda getting tired of LoGH talk, and was wondering if my posts were even being read at that point D: so I jumped on the VN/Oreimo LN talk wagon that was in town and got it on the road ^_^;
Anyway, I'll give those Super Robo animes a shot. I'm just about ready to vomit from the excess of crappy male leads in 95% of the anime I watch.
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On February 01 2011 08:26 Latham wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 08:19 tonight wrote:
Man, I have no idea what you guys have been talking about the last pages ~ Haha, you can thank me for derailing around 6/7 pages ago ;D. Was kinda getting tired of LoGH talk, and was wondering if my posts were even being read at that point D: so I jumped on the VN/Oreimo LN talk wagon that was in town and got it on the road ^_^; Anyway, I'll give those Super Robo animes a shot. I'm just about ready to vomit from the excess of crappy male leads in 95% of the anime I watch.
Start out with New Getter Robo. If you watched Gurren Lagann, then you will have a good idea of what the mecha combat will be like.
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I actually really enjoy Kore Wa Zombie for what it is. It has it's serious moments and it's ridiculous moments, but for what it is it keeps me entertained every week. I also like Sera calling him a piece of shit all the time.
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Sera is awesome.
For some reason can't get into Dragon crisis.
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Next episode Yuu talks. I feel it, though... now that I think about it it would most likely be a last episode or two thing.
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On February 01 2011 07:56 Blobskillz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 07:32 Ecael wrote:
Manami, the character whose sole purpose is to contact Ayase in vol 7. Why cheer for someone as useless as that. I think the guy who made the summaries writes it pretty good Show nested quote +
Some have argued, and we’ll see this in the future once the anime airs, that Oreimo is somewhat realistic. It’s not (not being realistic doesn’t mean it’s bad), and Manami serves to illustrate this point. She’s a normal girl, her life is somewhat realistic, while Kirino isn’t. Kirino is a character not built based on what we perceive as reality, but based on moe parameters (who wouldn’t love an imouto—not a sister, imouto and sister have different meanings— who plays eroge, who is a tsundere?) I will write a post in the future about realism in oreimo, because many people have said and probably will say that it’s realistic, and that means marring precisely its greatness.
Now, Manami represents everything Kirino isn’t. And precisely because we must distinguish between reality and idealism, I can say that, in real life, I’d want Manami to be my wife. I mean, she is nice, faithful, kind even if a little innocent and would be a very good wife. I’d have three children with her. What a nice life! Boring? Well, seriously, that’s the difference between 2D and 3D, because in our more ideal world, the 2D world, she’s just plain and uninteresting, and clearly contrasts with Kirino—the tsundere, probably a brocon, and an otaku who likes lolis and eroge. The one living all these adventures. 3D vs 2D in a 2D world (that’s why I say it’s not realist, it’s 2D!)
See, I like realism, I have even cheered for plain characters like Manami in the past (For Southlight, Nanoha in Baldr Sky), but realism needs to do something. Like I said, her role in vol 7 is literally to call Ayase on the phone. That's it. At that point, you are no longer a plain 'realistic' character, you are just useless.
If my interpretation of Kirino's inability to express her feelings is optimism, then that guy's view is downright Panglossian. If the author's intent was to do make a foil for Kirino (as he probably did originally), it is a pathetic failure by this point. This kind of falls under the part in my conversation with Southlight where we both just noted how one of the original themes of the otaku vs mainstream culture in this LN just disappeared. There is supposed to be kind of conflicts with Kirino and jimiko, but the interest of the readers as well as the direction of the author pretty much just ignored that and moved onto other things. You are not a foil if people can't care about you, and if there are no conflicts of any kind revolving around you, you are dead weight. That's the status of jimiko.
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OMG Nanoha that BITCH, one of the most painful routes ever.
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On February 01 2011 09:17 Southlight wrote:
OMG Nanoha that BITCH, one of the most painful routes ever.
See, I cheered for someone like that and even I can't stand jimiko.
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You CHEERED for her? I wanted her to die. Die a horrible, deserved death. That's not normal that's just wussy.
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On February 01 2011 09:21 Southlight wrote:
You CHEERED for her? I wanted her to die. Die a horrible, deserved death. That's not normal that's just wussy.
That was better than Rain and Chinatsu route in Baldr Sky 1 imoimoimoimo, dive 2 so much better.
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Hmm, I was fine with Chinatsu's route; Rain's one was bland though but still less RAGE INDUCING than Nanoha O M G.
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Woot zombie desu ka is epic lol
Kuudere is best <3
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LoGH 69-70
+ Show Spoiler +70 started well with great intelligence warfare.
It ended in the worst possible fight I've ever seen... Seriously, I am very disappointed by this episode. I feel cheated by it. It's the second time they capture Iserhorln with a cheap trick. Once was good, twice I can't accept it...
I guess I'll just ignore this episode and accept what happened, but I really did not enjoy it. I felt like I was watching Gundam Seed/00 again ><
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On February 01 2011 09:53 Thratur wrote:LoGH 69-70 + Show Spoiler +70 started well with great intelligence warfare.
It ended in the worst possible fight I've ever seen... Seriously, I am very disappointed by this episode. I feel cheated by it. It's the second time they capture Iserhorln with a cheap trick. Once was good, twice I can't accept it...
I guess I'll just ignore this episode and accept what happened, but I really did not enjoy it. I felt like I was watching Gundam Seed/00 again ><
+ Show Spoiler +So you wanted Yang to take back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight? That's impossible. Yang is heavily outnumbered to begin with - Lutz's fleet has at least ten times the number of ships he does. In addition, you're forgetting that Iserlohn is a fucking invulnerable fortress with a super powerful cannon. It's literally impossible to fight an enemy who has a numerical and positional advantage and still win.
Also, the Alliance has tried to take Iserlohn by force many times in the past. They failed every time. Tricks are cheap, but they work, and in combat, results are everything. Even if capturing Iserlohn through normal combat was possible, there would be a huge number of unnecessary losses. Yang's not the kind of guy who would ignore that.
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On February 01 2011 10:06 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 09:53 Thratur wrote:LoGH 69-70 + Show Spoiler +70 started well with great intelligence warfare.
It ended in the worst possible fight I've ever seen... Seriously, I am very disappointed by this episode. I feel cheated by it. It's the second time they capture Iserhorln with a cheap trick. Once was good, twice I can't accept it...
I guess I'll just ignore this episode and accept what happened, but I really did not enjoy it. I felt like I was watching Gundam Seed/00 again >< + Show Spoiler +So you wanted Yang to take back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight? That's impossible. Yang is heavily outnumbered to begin with - Lutz's fleet has at least ten times the number of ships he does. In addition, you're forgetting that Iserlohn is a fucking invulnerable fortress with a super powerful cannon. It's literally impossible to fight an enemy who has a numerical and positional advantage and still win.
Also, the Alliance has tried to take Iserlohn by force many times in the past. They failed every time. Tricks are cheap, but they work, and in combat, results are everything. Even if capturing Iserlohn through normal combat was possible, there would be a huge number of unnecessary losses. Yang's not the kind of guy who would ignore that.
+ Show Spoiler +It is true that there is no way Yang could have gotten back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight. But my point is that there should be no way he could have gotten it back even by tricks. I agree that it's better to use tricks than huge losses, but I did not think those were realistic at all. There are so many things that could have gone wrong with this plan... but I don't want to get into an argument about it. Imo, they should have just lost the battle, or taking it while Lutz fleet was ordered to leave the fortress by some surround strategy, or use some clever tactics to neutralize the cannon. I was satisfied with the intelligence warfare and it could have been enough to convince me, but not the deactivation of the cannon/no scouting ship from the fortress/the hidden command center to use the cannon/Rosenritters being imbalanced all over again/a very poor defense plan.
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lmao couldnt stop laughing when the dog tried to drink tea.
too bad they killed that chick in the hospital
was the whale wearing a suit?
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On February 01 2011 10:17 Gao Xi wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Zombie] +
lmao couldnt stop laughing when the dog tried to drink tea.
too bad they killed that chick in the hospital
was the whale wearing a suit?
+ Show Spoiler +It's the little details that make this show so funny. I'm still convinced that she's the killer. Nothing else makes sense. I couldn't really tell, but I think so. Otherwise, there's no reason to have buttons. 
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On February 01 2011 10:12 Thratur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 10:06 Spazer wrote:On February 01 2011 09:53 Thratur wrote:LoGH 69-70 + Show Spoiler +70 started well with great intelligence warfare.
It ended in the worst possible fight I've ever seen... Seriously, I am very disappointed by this episode. I feel cheated by it. It's the second time they capture Iserhorln with a cheap trick. Once was good, twice I can't accept it...
I guess I'll just ignore this episode and accept what happened, but I really did not enjoy it. I felt like I was watching Gundam Seed/00 again >< + Show Spoiler +So you wanted Yang to take back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight? That's impossible. Yang is heavily outnumbered to begin with - Lutz's fleet has at least ten times the number of ships he does. In addition, you're forgetting that Iserlohn is a fucking invulnerable fortress with a super powerful cannon. It's literally impossible to fight an enemy who has a numerical and positional advantage and still win.
Also, the Alliance has tried to take Iserlohn by force many times in the past. They failed every time. Tricks are cheap, but they work, and in combat, results are everything. Even if capturing Iserlohn through normal combat was possible, there would be a huge number of unnecessary losses. Yang's not the kind of guy who would ignore that. + Show Spoiler +It is true that there is no way Yang could have gotten back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight. But my point is that there should be no way he could have gotten it back even by tricks. I agree that it's better to use tricks than huge losses, but I did not think those were realistic at all. There are so many things that could have gone wrong with this plan... but I don't want to get into an argument about it. Imo, they should have just lost the battle, or taking it while Lutz fleet was ordered to leave the fortress by some surround strategy, or use some clever tactics to neutralize the cannon. I was satisfied with the intelligence warfare and it could have been enough to convince me, but not the deactivation of the cannon/no scouting ship from the fortress/the hidden command center to use the cannon/Rosenritters being imbalanced all over again/a very poor defense plan.
+ Show Spoiler +In Golden Wings (the movie which pissed me off to no end), the Alliance tried to take Iserlohn. Except in the movie it wasn't Iserlohn, it was the Death Star. Anyway, the Alliance attacked it with 40k ships, and Yang was present. The idea was to lure the station fleet out, attack and force a retreat, and then follow the station fleet back to Iserlohn, using the Imperial ships as a shield against the Thor Hammer. It was working (and actually damaged Iserlohn because it was actually the Death Star), but then the Empire decided to just shoot through their own fleet, and decimated the Alliance forces. IDK how canon this is, since Iserlohn getting damaged directly contradicts the main series, but take that for what you will.
Point being, even if you do something to take out the Station Fleet, they still have the Thor Hammer, and you can't do anything about that unless you can somehow neutralize the gun. The only possible strategies would be to take it from the inside (basically what was used both times), or to try and beseige and starve them out... And lets be honest, since its been said that Iserlohn can be entirely self-sufficient, the Yang-fleet had neither the resources nor time to try this.
Yang planted that trick before they abandoned it the first time, so I don't know why its so hard to accept. The bombs they placed where there to disguise the REAL trick he left.
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