Anime Discussion Thread - Page 644

70 started well with great intelligence warfare.

It ended in the worst possible fight I've ever seen... Seriously, I am very disappointed by this episode. I feel cheated by it. It's the second time they capture Iserhorln with a cheap trick. Once was good, twice I can't accept it...

I guess I'll just ignore this episode and accept what happened, but I really did not enjoy it. I felt like I was watching Gundam Seed/00 again ><

So you wanted Yang to take back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight? That's impossible. Yang is heavily outnumbered to begin with - Lutz's fleet has at least ten times the number of ships he does. In addition, you're forgetting that Iserlohn is a fucking invulnerable fortress with a super powerful cannon. It's literally impossible to fight an enemy who has a numerical and positional advantage and still win.

Also, the Alliance has tried to take Iserlohn by force many times in the past. They failed every time. Tricks are cheap, but they work, and in combat, results are everything. Even if capturing Iserlohn through normal combat was possible, there would be a huge number of unnecessary losses. Yang's not the kind of guy who would ignore that.

It is true that there is no way Yang could have gotten back Iserlohn in a straightforward fight. But my point is that there should be no way he could have gotten it back even by tricks. I agree that it's better to use tricks than huge losses, but I did not think those were realistic at all. There are so many things that could have gone wrong with this plan... but I don't want to get into an argument about it. Imo, they should have just lost the battle, or taking it while Lutz fleet was ordered to leave the fortress by some surround strategy, or use some clever tactics to neutralize the cannon. I was satisfied with the intelligence warfare and it could have been enough to convince me, but not the deactivation of the cannon/no scouting ship from the fortress/the hidden command center to use the cannon/Rosenritters being imbalanced all over again/a very poor defense plan.

lmao couldnt stop laughing when the dog tried to drink tea.
too bad they killed that chick in the hospital
was the whale wearing a suit?

It's the little details that make this show so funny.
I'm still convinced that she's the killer. Nothing else makes sense.
I couldn't really tell, but I think so. Otherwise, there's no reason to have buttons.

In Golden Wings (the movie which pissed me off to no end), the Alliance tried to take Iserlohn. Except in the movie it wasn't Iserlohn, it was the Death Star. Anyway, the Alliance attacked it with 40k ships, and Yang was present. The idea was to lure the station fleet out, attack and force a retreat, and then follow the station fleet back to Iserlohn, using the Imperial ships as a shield against the Thor Hammer. It was working (and actually damaged Iserlohn because it was actually the Death Star), but then the Empire decided to just shoot through their own fleet, and decimated the Alliance forces. IDK how canon this is, since Iserlohn getting damaged directly contradicts the main series, but take that for what you will.

Point being, even if you do something to take out the Station Fleet, they still have the Thor Hammer, and you can't do anything about that unless you can somehow neutralize the gun. The only possible strategies would be to take it from the inside (basically what was used both times), or to try and beseige and starve them out... And lets be honest, since its been said that Iserlohn can be entirely self-sufficient, the Yang-fleet had neither the resources nor time to try this.

Yang planted that trick before they abandoned it the first time, so I don't know why its so hard to accept. The bombs they placed where there to disguise the REAL trick he left.