Anime Discussion Thread - Page 6283

I know he doesn't like it...

The thing that doesn't sit well with me when people argue that it was just a cheap pull for drama is that it did make sense given the situation.
02 is literally a monster who tried to kill Hiro. They don't know about all the parts we saw during the episode and if I ever ran into a supernatural being that tries to kill me I'd hope my friends would hold me back as well if I decided that I wanted to talk with her.
I mean we've seen what she did to the group of kids when hiro wasn't there

them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process

Ichigo did the only reasonable thing she could. Zero2 had already put Mitsuri in the hospital before, this is the second time she hurt Hiro and she was getting increasingly unstable/unreliable. Any squad leader would give such a person the boot.

Keeping Hiro from seeing Zero2 makes perfect sense. Zero2 is an alien that has tried to kill two of Ichigo's subordinants and Hiro has a completely irrational desire to see such a being. Keeping him isolated from her and safe is the only reasonable option she has in this situation.

Ichigo in desperation blurting out her feelings to Hiro is honestly the natural response when she sees his irrational obsession with Zero2.

Zero2 and Hiro missing eachother is sort of whatever in this episode. There'd be no difference if they haven't seen eachother as Hiro should eventually have seen the whole situation in it's entirety while Zero2 would still carry her grudge and rage over her treatment. It's just a device to accelerate the show.

Not only did 02 and Hiro miss each other while going for the other's location, the rest of the team was somehow absolutely clueless that this was going on. From Ichigo's "I'll just leave this knife with you for no reason at all", to Hiro escaping with his bed sheets and said knife, to each party missing each other on their way... everything about that whole situation felt like an attempt to cramp as many bad cliches in there as possible.
For me, that is the definition of terrible and lazy writing.

That aside, the core conflict there is absolutely silly as well and it cannot be called logical or reasonable at all. The two partners voiced the need to talk to each other multiple times and it's very clear that this was a thing that needed talking about. None of the rest of the team had any idea what was going on inside the cockpit, so they should have had a need to understand that situation as well. But I guess this is another one of those absolutely obnoxious anime cliches; a conflict easily resolved if only the characters involved would talk to each other.

What makes this worse is the fact that everything that was happening in the show up until that moment was pointing to this plot development. Finally the mystery is resolved, the characters can talk to each other and set off on their shared journey... and then episode 14 happens. I'll be honest here: I was incredibly frustrated and mad as well, especially because I knew that this shitty drama is going to be resolved in a few episodes anyway. It's a waste of time and absolutely transparent, coming at the worst time possible. Episode 13 gets people excited and in the "here we go" mood and then the writers essentially punch them in the face for no reason at all.

The core conflict was pretty realistic imo. The rest of the crew don't know 02 well and have only neutral at best impressions of her from previous rumors of her plus her attitude towards them. Then they see Hiro put in the hospital with strangulation marks around his neck. Yea I wouldn't want to let them see each other either for a while. Going from 13 to 15 would be silly, the only thing you could argue is that they could have extended the disconnect between Hiro and 02 and not have it resolved in 15.