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On January 05 2018 10:46 Nagisama wrote: Kaze and I watched and talked a lot about tsuki ga kirei.
Recreators OPs were really good. (Gets you pumped for the show at least, too bad it couldn't deliver) Kobeni is waifu material. I completely understand Benio's obnoxiouness over her.
Koe no katachi was good too.
yep, very waifu material. Agree 100%.
edit: on that note, anyone else want to recommend me a similar romcom with waifu material? haha. I actually really enjoyed Kobeni's reaction and VA. Pretty cute all around.
I don't think I can think of anything else quite like it, in particular when it comes to the waifu.
Like, I could tell you to watch Hataraku Maou-sama once again (or for the first time if you haven't watched it yet) because there's some overlap between the comedy/romance in general I guess but the Hikasa Yoko char (whatever her name was) is completly different with her being a tsundere and all. It also doesn't have that "arranged marriage + end up falling in love with each other" element to it at all (it only has the "end up falling in love with each other" part going for it). But I'd say Hataraku Maou-sama is the better show overall aside from the ED
In that regard it's probably even closer to something like Nisekoi but with Nisekoi it's a) more on the harem side of things b) the gorilla is the "waifu" while Kobeni is probably closer to Onodera character-wise.
so yeah, I don't think I can think of something that really fits the bill of it being comedy/romance + waifu character that is a bit like Kobeni + possibly arranged marriage. Also Mashiro is super important to what the show ends up being, or at least was for me.
Fair points all around. I already watched Hataraku Maou-sama and yes, it feels almost like Nisekoi without the harem and with the winner being Onodera lol. Thanks regardless!
Started watching Aishiteruze Baby, a good watch so far. Reminds me of Usagi Drop though the story is a bit different.
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
yeah but I think there's still a difference between "great visuals" and Makoto Shinkai stuff in general or if we're talking about series, stuff like Ufo from KyoAni that just looks better than most other things you could compare it to.
So yeah, I expect it to look decent-good no matter the show but if it's clearly above that it's a plus for me as well. There also can be shows that are good while looking horrible but that's another thing.
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
The thing that sets Anime apart from other storytelling devices is its animation. Its like... the reason Anime is called Anime. If an anime has shitty animation, then why did they even make an anime for it (rhetorical btw, I know the actual answer)? Would have been better to do manga or novel in that case.
On December 28 2017 09:16 Sentenal wrote: This new Devilman anime looks like its some Shaft anime, not sure if I like:
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
On January 06 2018 02:09 Sentenal wrote: The thing that sets Anime apart from other storytelling devices is its animation. Its like... the reason Anime is called Anime. If an anime has shitty animation, then why did they even make an anime for it (rhetorical btw, I know the actual answer)? Would have been better to do manga or novel in that case.
I mean i agree fully, i'd be happy if the amount of weekly anime was reduced by 80% but the animation quality for the remaining were all high.
Even franchises as big as dragon ball can end up with something like Super which for the most part has laughably terrible animation. I'd love for good animation to be the norm, but it sadly isn't.
On January 05 2018 10:46 Nagisama wrote: Kaze and I watched and talked a lot about tsuki ga kirei.
Recreators OPs were really good. (Gets you pumped for the show at least, too bad it couldn't deliver) Kobeni is waifu material. I completely understand Benio's obnoxiouness over her.
Koe no katachi was good too.
yep, very waifu material. Agree 100%.
edit: on that note, anyone else want to recommend me a similar romcom with waifu material? haha. I actually really enjoyed Kobeni's reaction and VA. Pretty cute all around.
Seto no Hanayome is sort of similar. Masa is definitely waifu #1.
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
I guess it's like video games in the regard. Even "bad" games tend to get all right scores from reviewers because they at least look good, have decently fun gameplay, and most importantly: they're actually playable. Sometimes there are games that don't even work because they have so many glitches and bugs, so it's seen as a plus when you can actually play a game, rather than the bare minimum expectation.
Maybe anime is like that too, but I wish it wasn't. We should be able to hold things to a higher standard. Though I unironically enjoy stuff like Blend-S so maybe I don't have a right to talk about standards in anime lol.
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
I don't see how that is applicable in this situation.
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
I guess it's like video games in the regard. Even "bad" games tend to get all right scores from reviewers because they at least look good, have decently fun gameplay, and most importantly: they're actually playable. Sometimes there are games that don't even work because they have so many glitches and bugs, so it's seen as a plus when you can actually play a game, rather than the bare minimum expectation.
Maybe anime is like that too, but I wish it wasn't. We should be able to hold things to a higher standard. Though I unironically enjoy stuff like Blend-S so maybe I don't have a right to talk about standards in anime lol.
I get your example, but I don't see why you are apparently only applying it to visuals. Why not apply it to literally everything else too? Like if good animation should be a bare minimum, then shouldn't things like having a good story also be a bare minimum?
On January 05 2018 10:46 Nagisama wrote: Kaze and I watched and talked a lot about tsuki ga kirei.
Recreators OPs were really good. (Gets you pumped for the show at least, too bad it couldn't deliver) Kobeni is waifu material. I completely understand Benio's obnoxiouness over her.
Koe no katachi was good too.
yep, very waifu material. Agree 100%.
edit: on that note, anyone else want to recommend me a similar romcom with waifu material? haha. I actually really enjoyed Kobeni's reaction and VA. Pretty cute all around.
Try Haiyore! Nyaruko. More focus on comedy than romance though. I think Sent also added Nyaruko as waifu material.
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
I don't see how that is applicable in this situation.
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
I guess it's like video games in the regard. Even "bad" games tend to get all right scores from reviewers because they at least look good, have decently fun gameplay, and most importantly: they're actually playable. Sometimes there are games that don't even work because they have so many glitches and bugs, so it's seen as a plus when you can actually play a game, rather than the bare minimum expectation.
Maybe anime is like that too, but I wish it wasn't. We should be able to hold things to a higher standard. Though I unironically enjoy stuff like Blend-S so maybe I don't have a right to talk about standards in anime lol.
I get your example, but I don't see why you are apparently only applying it to visuals. Why not apply it to literally everything else too? Like if good animation should be a bare minimum, then shouldn't things like having a good story also be a bare minimum?
I see animation (and sound) as the bare minimum for expressing the medium and story, like the paper that a book is printed on (or the screen I guess, if you read e-books and aren't a luddite like me). If I'm noticing the animation, there's something wrong.
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
I don't see how that is applicable in this situation.
On January 06 2018 03:19 Ferrose wrote:
On January 06 2018 02:02 Unleashing wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:21 Ferrose wrote:
On January 05 2018 09:18 Unleashing wrote:
On January 05 2018 09:14 Miragee wrote:
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
I guess it's like video games in the regard. Even "bad" games tend to get all right scores from reviewers because they at least look good, have decently fun gameplay, and most importantly: they're actually playable. Sometimes there are games that don't even work because they have so many glitches and bugs, so it's seen as a plus when you can actually play a game, rather than the bare minimum expectation.
Maybe anime is like that too, but I wish it wasn't. We should be able to hold things to a higher standard. Though I unironically enjoy stuff like Blend-S so maybe I don't have a right to talk about standards in anime lol.
I get your example, but I don't see why you are apparently only applying it to visuals. Why not apply it to literally everything else too? Like if good animation should be a bare minimum, then shouldn't things like having a good story also be a bare minimum?
I see animation (and sound) as the bare minimum for expressing the medium and story, like the paper that a book is printed on (or the screen I guess, if you read e-books and aren't a luddite like me). If I'm noticing the animation, there's something wrong.
Thats incredibly reductive. I guess I just don't understand the mindset of literally not giving a fuck about art unless its bad lol
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
I don't see how that is applicable in this situation.
On January 06 2018 03:19 Ferrose wrote:
On January 06 2018 02:02 Unleashing wrote:
On January 06 2018 01:21 Ferrose wrote:
On January 05 2018 09:18 Unleashing wrote:
On January 05 2018 09:14 Miragee wrote:
On January 04 2018 23:03 Unleashing wrote: To me kimi no na wa is a 8/10 at the very best and that's mostly it being carried by visuals and sound, story and characters were mediocre.
6/10 for me. There was literally nothing besides the visuals that stood out. Definitely one of Shinkai's weaker works.
On January 05 2018 00:57 BrTarolg wrote: as much as i'd like to do one of those ranking things everyone else is doing
idk i'd just put maid dragon on the top for everything
and kujira no kora for "it was amazing and u guys didn't watch it"
I watched it and it was terrible.
Visuals and sound are very important to me as far as anime goes. Which is why i've rated it so 'high', the visual and audio design is just really super fucking good. Same reason redline has such a high rating for me despite its average plot (Almost want to give that one a 10/10.) While redline is close to 10/10 kimi no na wa is closer to 7/10.
Too bad as with everything i've watched by shinkai the characters and story are generally pretty bad. If not for the visuals of his works nothing he's made would get above 4/10 for me honestly.
I think great visuals and sound should be expected of anime, especially the higher budget ones. Having great visuals/sound doesn't really make something standout for me, because I expect it, so I don't usually give something a better rating for doing its job.
I mean that'd be great if 99% of anime airing each season didn't look like garbage compared to something like redline. Great visuals do stand out and should be praised because they're not the norm in the medium imo.
Still frames, speedlines, lazy animation in general, bad art and so on are more than common in most weekly airing stuff. I'd love to consider truly great animation the norm and just 'doing its job', but that's never been the case.
Even for anime movies you can't always expect consistently high quality animation.
I guess it's like video games in the regard. Even "bad" games tend to get all right scores from reviewers because they at least look good, have decently fun gameplay, and most importantly: they're actually playable. Sometimes there are games that don't even work because they have so many glitches and bugs, so it's seen as a plus when you can actually play a game, rather than the bare minimum expectation.
Maybe anime is like that too, but I wish it wasn't. We should be able to hold things to a higher standard. Though I unironically enjoy stuff like Blend-S so maybe I don't have a right to talk about standards in anime lol.
I get your example, but I don't see why you are apparently only applying it to visuals. Why not apply it to literally everything else too? Like if good animation should be a bare minimum, then shouldn't things like having a good story also be a bare minimum?
I see animation (and sound) as the bare minimum for expressing the medium and story, like the paper that a book is printed on (or the screen I guess, if you read e-books and aren't a luddite like me). If I'm noticing the animation, there's something wrong.
Thats incredibly reductive. I guess I just don't understand the mindset of literally not giving a fuck about art unless its bad lol
Reductive?! orz...Maybe I'm too harsh. There's definitely cases where I've noticed the animation and thought it was a good thing, Made in Abyss being a recent example. There's other animes where I think the art style and direction adds to my enjoyment, like Kuzu no Honkai. But usually I can live with subpar visuals if it means I'm getting a good story.
Its not actually being made by Shaft, but visually it has that uninteresting flat look to parts of it with all the artsy stuff crammed in between. Would rather have a style like whats in Devilman vs Cyborg 009 instead of.... this.
its by yuasa, 100% chance it will be good
Looking at the work history for the guy, he has actually directed just a few anime series so far, and done a ton of key animation for others. Basically nothing to go off of with his history, and the trailer is concerning.
Eh? I would rather go with a guy who directed a few series but every single one of them was good instead of going with a guy who directed a 100 series but is 50/50... Quality over quantity here.
I don't see how that is applicable in this situation.
I don't get you. Have you seen any of his works and just think they are shit or are you just pulling opinions out of thin air? I have watched a fair few of the shows/movies directed by him and haven't been disappointed once. He is one of the few directors who's style is actually instantly notable. Just like Satoshi Kon's for example.
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