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207aicila
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Also it's pretty funny to see how some writers' favourites were others' least favourite. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 27 2017 22:00 Sentenal wrote: + Show Spoiler + Dat episode 82 Things like that is why LoGH is actually the saddest anime ever made. Things like Clannad are small-time in comparison yep agree or maybe even the episode after. + Show Spoiler + What was sad to me is that we never got the two to meet again. Despite not liking the fact that they made Yang too powerful of a tactician imo, from a humanity perspective, he was down to earth, humble and could see the big picture. He also strove for his ideals and was true to his word. It's something that I greatly appreciated and I was hoping that he'll manage to make peace by the end of the conflict. Reinhard himself was trying to be fair despite being in an autocracy so even though they don't agree on the principles, you can tell that they see on eye to eye on other things. Then of course, he gets assassinated by such a silly scheme by being shot the leg and bleeding to death, fuck... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 28 2017 01:08 207aicila wrote: Good to see someone give Tsurezure Children a little credit. Also it's pretty funny to see how some writers' favourites were others' least favourite. yeah I chuckled at that as well. Tsurezure Children is kind of odd for me as well though. It was amazing for a short anime no questions on that. But with it being a short I don't think I'd nominate it for top2 either. For me it would be New Game!! + Gamers as well, with Tsurezure Children comming 3rd and Owarimonogatari depending on wether we want to count it or not. I'm not even sure if ANN reviewed that? I guess I'll have to go ahead and watch Made in Abyss and Princess Principal now? Oh right we also had Koi to Uso this season... I still feel like that could have been good but I agree with pretty much everyone there that it was probably the biggest disappointment of this season. That series turned into a sneezefest in less time than what it takes you to get it loaded up in your media player. The characters, MC in particular, were absolutely awful. And the Hanazawa char was voiced by Hanazawa so that hit her even harder | ||
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207aicila
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I do kind of love the idea of substituting a traditional romance setup for a ton of different mostly independent stories and only showing the moneyshots and the payoffs, rather than boring you endlessly with "will they won't they" bullshit. Well at least for the most part. Nice variety too. I wish more shows did something like this. I also liked Amagami SS for similar reasons, although they're not perfectly comparable. Oh yeah this reminds me, has anyone here seen Seiren? I had an eye on that for a while but it seemed that the further it got the more people hated it. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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207aicila
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On September 28 2017 01:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: AotS goes to either Gamers! or Made in Abyss in my book. Everything else is shyte >:o I would recommend giving Tsurezure Children a shot before making such claims. :D | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
Oh yeah this reminds me, has anyone here seen Seiren? I had an eye on that for a while but it seemed that the further it got the more people hated it. Best girl tsuneki hikari got the worst arc so it's a shit show. Also the mc is about 100x worse than Junichi who was already bad enough. So I don't recommend watching it. Doesn't look like it will get a 2nd season either. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On September 28 2017 01:40 207aicila wrote: I would recommend giving Tsurezure Children a shot before making such claims. :D I will. 3 episodes. | ||
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207aicila
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On September 28 2017 01:46 IceHism wrote: Best girl tsuneki hikari got the worst arc so it's a shit show. Also the mc is about 100x worse than Junichi who was already bad enough. So I don't recommend watching it. Doesn't look like it will get a 2nd season either. Yikes. Thanks man, appreciate it. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On September 28 2017 01:08 BigFan wrote: yep agree or maybe even the episode after. + Show Spoiler + What was sad to me is that we never got the two to meet again. Despite not liking the fact that they made Yang too powerful of a tactician imo, from a humanity perspective, he was down to earth, humble and could see the big picture. He also strove for his ideals and was true to his word. It's something that I greatly appreciated and I was hoping that he'll manage to make peace by the end of the conflict. Reinhard himself was trying to be fair despite being in an autocracy so even though they don't agree on the principles, you can tell that they see on eye to eye on other things. Then of course, he gets assassinated by such a silly scheme by being shot the leg and bleeding to death, fuck... + Show Spoiler + the episode where yang and reinhard finally meet is probably one of my alltime favourite episodes out of all anime. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On September 28 2017 01:35 207aicila wrote: I don't know if it having shorter episodes should inherently have any impact on its reception. There've been a number of great, shortform anime over the last few years, especially in the comedy genre. That said it does seem like there have been some interesting anime this season, so I can understand why it wouldn't make top 2 for most people regardless of its format. I do kind of love the idea of substituting a traditional romance setup for a ton of different mostly independent stories and only showing the moneyshots and the payoffs, rather than boring you endlessly with "will they won't they" bullshit. Well at least for the most part. Nice variety too. I wish more shows did something like this. I also liked Amagami SS for similar reasons, although they're not perfectly comparable. Oh yeah this reminds me, has anyone here seen Seiren? I had an eye on that for a while but it seemed that the further it got the more people hated it. i don't think people do it on purpose but I find myself wanting to give credit to longer shows in general since they had more time to put a compelling story together and usually deliver more of a punch. As such I'd assume 2cour shows end up being above average for me as an example. So yeah I get your point that people shouldn't do that and I'm not trying to do it on purpose but find myself doing it nontheless unconsciously and admitted that in the previous post. If that makes sense? | ||
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BigFan
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On September 28 2017 02:04 Unleashing wrote: + Show Spoiler + the episode where yang and reinhard finally meet is probably one of my alltime favourite episodes out of all anime. yes, one of my favourites as well + Show Spoiler + which is why I wanted more!  | ||
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Miragee
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On September 27 2017 14:54 BigFan wrote: Holy Shit, I'm so pissed... + Show Spoiler + Why the hell did he kill Yang? Fuck, I was looking forward to their meeting This author... + Show Spoiler + Did you cry? I hope you cried. I cried for 2 episodes straight. That was some of the strongest emotional impact on me in all of anime. On September 27 2017 20:56 Numy wrote: There are still good gems coming through every year Except 2016, which was absolutely terrible as a year. On September 28 2017 00:46 Numy wrote: I'm not a fan of manga as a medium so I don't go read source after they don't adapt it. Telling people to read the source is awful. I feel the same, thank you Numy. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 28 2017 01:23 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I chuckled at that as well. Tsurezure Children is kind of odd for me as well though. It was amazing for a short anime no questions on that. But with it being a short I don't think I'd nominate it for top2 either. For me it would be New Game!! + Gamers as well, with Tsurezure Children comming 3rd and Owarimonogatari depending on wether we want to count it or not. I'm not even sure if ANN reviewed that? I guess I'll have to go ahead and watch Made in Abyss and Princess Principal now? Oh right we also had Koi to Uso this season... I still feel like that could have been good but I agree with pretty much everyone there that it was probably the biggest disappointment of this season. That series turned into a sneezefest in less time than what it takes you to get it loaded up in your media player. The characters, MC in particular, were absolutely awful. And the Hanazawa char was voiced by Hanazawa so that hit her even harder Princess Principal was at the top of my list this season while Koi to Uso was near the bot, possibly even the worst. Made in Abyss had prob the most acclaim by viewers/reviews but I found it extremely underwhelming until the last couple episodes. Will still prob end on a decent note, so no complaints. and manga are gud. smh. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
If people wanted to read the source, they'd read the source. Sometimes an anime may facilitate discovery of the source, but for the most part I'd rather watch the anime. (Monogatari is an exception; I want both the anime and the LNs. Then again, Monogatari didn't pull the BS "Here's a cour leading into something and suddenly the rest of the story is in the LNs! Go buy now!") At least some anime that are also advertising for the source material doesn't pull off the "end on a ridiculous cliff-hanger" or "in the middle of the story" BS as a final episode. And some anime change the story from the source to avoid that kind of issue - I think that's why with Fuuka + Show Spoiler + truck-san missed I mean, I went looking for the LNs to read more after the end of the Suka anime, mostly because I wanted to see if that was actually where the story ends. (It doesn't.) But you don't have to; Suka pretty much, as weird as it was, told a complete story in the anime that could end right there and be fine. A lot of frustration comes from Western fans of anime I think because of the advertising usage in anime adaptations - because we may never see the source material translated officially. (This is getting better.) So people get upset that there aren't more seasons of an anime when the story stops on episode 12 or 13 without any resolution or without even a hint of where the story was going. And "Go read the the source" doesn't help because that's not what the consumer wants. I mean, that'd be right up there with people that read Game of Thrones getting told "Oh, GRRM writes too slowly? Just watch the show, it's past the books." If they aren't watching the show already, it's because they'd rather read the books. Still... OreGairu new season when? | ||
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207aicila
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On September 28 2017 02:52 Miragee wrote: Except 2016, which was absolutely terrible as a year. Ehhh you must have very unrealistic standards I think... or maybe very specific taste? Sure it was no 2007 but between stuff like Konosuba, Mob Psycho 100, 3-gatsu no Lion (which admittedly did continue into the new year and will return soon), Diamond is not Crash etc. it was pretty good. And a slew of "lesser" but still pretty damn fun comedies and slice of life shows. Haven't watched the Rakugo show yet but it seems interesting and I know most of the people who watched it thought it was really good. Oh yeah ERASED was also a thing that happened, that was pretty good. Not every year can be full of 10/10s. But I'd be hard pressed to call it bad, let alone terrible. | ||
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207aicila
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On September 28 2017 03:21 felisconcolori wrote: If people wanted to read the source, they'd read the source. Sometimes an anime may facilitate discovery of the source, but for the most part I'd rather watch the anime. (Monogatari is an exception; I want both the anime and the LNs. Then again, Monogatari didn't pull the BS "Here's a cour leading into something and suddenly the rest of the story is in the LNs! Go buy now!") At least some anime that are also advertising for the source material doesn't pull off the "end on a ridiculous cliff-hanger" or "in the middle of the story" BS as a final episode. And some anime change the story from the source to avoid that kind of issue - I think that's why with Fuuka + Show Spoiler + truck-san missed I mean, I went looking for the LNs to read more after the end of the Suka anime, mostly because I wanted to see if that was actually where the story ends. (It doesn't.) But you don't have to; Suka pretty much, as weird as it was, told a complete story in the anime that could end right there and be fine. A lot of frustration comes from Western fans of anime I think because of the advertising usage in anime adaptations - because we may never see the source material translated officially. (This is getting better.) So people get upset that there aren't more seasons of an anime when the story stops on episode 12 or 13 without any resolution or without even a hint of where the story was going. And "Go read the the source" doesn't help because that's not what the consumer wants. I mean, that'd be right up there with people that read Game of Thrones getting told "Oh, GRRM writes too slowly? Just watch the show, it's past the books." If they aren't watching the show already, it's because they'd rather read the books. Still... OreGairu new season when? Agreed with a lot of what you're saying here. Lol another good example of the anime adaptation stopping right before things go to shit is Usagi Drop. Oregairu is a really cool idea for a show; the main problem I had with it is that the anime so far leaves you with a lot of questions, and depending on how those questions are answered it could either be incredibly good or a complete dumpster fire. As it is, it's just pretty good with a lot of potential. Who knows if/when we'll ever get to see the rest. Also the cliffhanger at the end of S2 was disgusting. One of the most frustrating I've ever seen. Like I thought KareKano had a bad cliffhanger ending by stopping right in the middle of a new story arc, but this is stopping literally in the middle of a crucial plot-sensitive conversation between the 3 main characters. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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207aicila
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On September 28 2017 03:41 NeoIllusions wrote: I didn't mind Usagi Drop source. zz + Show Spoiler [Usagi Drop manga spoilers] + Let's ruin one of the chillest most heartwarming stories by making her grow up into a troubled teenager who wants to fuck Daikichi and for some reason he's okay with that even though he's supposed to be a responsible level-headed adult. Don't get me wrong I'm not very socially conservative to think that the relationship is somehow inherently "wrong" or that wanting to portray such a relationship is wrong - I thought Koi Kaze was surprisingly good for instance - I just really fucking hated the tonal shift and resulting dissonance. Granted it's been almost 6 years since I've read it at this point, but I distinctly remember thinking that his decision to accept her advances in the end was very out of character, for a man that was not once shown as being able to see her that way, and was generally quite mature and responsible. Basically I didn't sign up for this shit. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I think KonoSuba is the only thing I read before having watched the anime? That being said, "go read the source"-endings are still horrible as they, more often than not, end the series with some huge cliffhanger with no season2 or anything else in sight so from an anime-pov it's awful. But there are certainly examples that were done decently, without massive cliffhangers while you're still aware that there's more out there if you want to read the source A bit unrelated but since I brought up what was good and what wasn't for me personally, I'll have to say that this season really ended up being one of the better ones for me. A lot of really good shows that all individually could have carried some weaker seasons all by themselves. | ||
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