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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 09 2017 03:18 GMT
#117501
thanks for the link and info, might check it out now ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
January 09 2017 05:21 GMT
#117502
Gintama is back! This upcoming arc is going to be one of the best.The fight scenes coming up are going to blow everything else out of the water.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
January 09 2017 06:40 GMT
#117503
On January 09 2017 14:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Gintama is back! This upcoming arc is going to be one of the best.The fight scenes coming up are going to blow everything else out of the water.


Very promising first ep. Can't fucking wait for rest of the season.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 09 2017 07:12 GMT
#117504
Even though it is Gintama with aliens, robots and OP humans, I don't like how they're making Shoyo so over the top. =/
Writer
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
January 09 2017 08:16 GMT
#117505
If you haven't read the manga, all will be explained in this arc.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 09 2017 08:51 GMT
#117506
I hope they do the flashback with Kagura's mom.
Never Knows Best.
Case123
Profile Joined April 2016
89 Posts
January 09 2017 09:06 GMT
#117507
Who gives a fuck about your complaints about harems being sexist? That's as stupid as saying hey the main character in Bleach is unfair because it shows that strong people will beat weak people! That's weakist!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 09 2017 09:15 GMT
#117508
On January 09 2017 18:06 Case123 wrote:
Who gives a fuck about your complaints about harems being sexist? That's as stupid as saying hey the main character in Bleach is unfair because it shows that strong people will beat weak people! That's weakist!


That comparison doesn't make sense o.O

Demi-chan had a pretty strong first episode. Good stuff.
Never Knows Best.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 09 2017 09:16 GMT
#117509
Students of critical theory ruin everything.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 09 2017 09:20 GMT
#117510
Didn't read the full discussion but I believe Miragee had a pretty good point. While there are some enjoyable harems, the majority seem to have girls swooning over an MC who is oblivious or has done nothing to even attract them in the first place lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 09:30:02
January 09 2017 09:25 GMT
#117511
On January 09 2017 18:20 BigFan wrote:
Didn't read the full discussion but I believe Miragee had a pretty good point. While there are some enjoyable harems, the majority seem to have girls swooning over an MC who is oblivious or has done nothing to even attract them in the first place lol.


Possibly. But I think if I wanted to watch fiction that had more realistic outcomes (one of the complaints) concerning polyamory, I'd be looking for nonfiction. Part of the point is that it is a fantasy, and that anyone with three brain cells knows it would never happen in reality. Well, highly unlikely - I've known one successful polyamorous group. But they were fairly atypical people.

(I'm reminded of someone that was talking about how the fight between Araragi and Karen was clearly allegorical, since highway overpasses were destroyed. To which I was wondering... Why? Why would that make it an animated exaggeration of a more mundane fight? Because vampires, monster cats, pyromaniac tigers, shikigami destroying a house with a finger, a girl with a monkey arm, a ghostly middle schooler that's older than the MC, and a girl becoming a medusa-like enshrined goddess is all fine, but Karen (a noted martial artist) kicking Araragi through a concrete pillar is somehow entirely implausible?)
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
January 09 2017 09:42 GMT
#117512
On January 09 2017 11:27 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 11:25 SK.Testie wrote:
On January 09 2017 06:06 Miragee wrote:

The whole concept of a harem is incredible sexist. How can you even argue with that? Only because it's wish fulfilment doesn't mean it's not sexist. That's like arguing a rapist isn't a rapist because he just wanted to have sex. Harems reduce all women in those shows to cock-craving cardboard cutouts. The wish fulfilment here is "oh, you can have that, too. A dozen women falling only for you without you doing anything but being a dick to them. They don't care they only want your dick. Isn't that amazing?". How is that not sexist for god's sake? Even naming the genre "harem" says it all if you know what the word harem is used for historically.
I think the general mis-conception is that it's not sexism if it happens in both female and male focused shows. It still is. Reverse harems are just as sexist as harems. Anyways, I'm not the guy who cries "sexist" everytime something comes up. I just dislike when people openly pretent it isn't there when it is.

You are correct on the second topic. I just made the anime comment because we are in an anime thread. I don't think anime is necessarily any worse than other mediums. I can't prove it one way or the other, either, because I don't have the insight.


You've brought this regressive marxist nonsense to the anime thread twice. Cut that commie shit out. Signed, part of the patriarchy.


Not sure if you know what any of those words mean :p


He probably doesn't or is joking (hoping for the latter). I had to check for a second if I wasn't in the YT comment section. That's usually the place where you can read comments like this.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 09:43:33
January 09 2017 09:42 GMT
#117513
On January 09 2017 17:51 Slaughter wrote:
I hope they do the flashback with Kagura's mom.


+ Show Spoiler +
Didn't they foreshadow it in the intro?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 09:44:06
January 09 2017 09:43 GMT
#117514
I dunno probably because Karen is just a human and all the previously mentioned characters are supernatural entities or were possessed by one. "normal" humans like Karen don't have any reason to be able to achieve that feat of strength.I don't know the argument they were going for or its context, just spitballing hue.


On January 09 2017 18:42 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 17:51 Slaughter wrote:
I hope they do the flashback with Kagura's mom.


+ Show Spoiler +
Didn't they foreshadow in the intro?


Yea I wrote that before I watched the episode. She is indeed in the OP.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 09:52:04
January 09 2017 09:48 GMT
#117515
On January 09 2017 18:25 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 18:20 BigFan wrote:
Didn't read the full discussion but I believe Miragee had a pretty good point. While there are some enjoyable harems, the majority seem to have girls swooning over an MC who is oblivious or has done nothing to even attract them in the first place lol.


Possibly. But I think if I wanted to watch fiction that had more realistic outcomes (one of the complaints) concerning polyamory, I'd be looking for nonfiction. Part of the point is that it is a fantasy, and that anyone with three brain cells knows it would never happen in reality. Well, highly unlikely - I've known one successful polyamorous group. But they were fairly atypical people.

(I'm reminded of someone that was talking about how the fight between Araragi and Karen was clearly allegorical, since highway overpasses were destroyed. To which I was wondering... Why? Why would that make it an animated exaggeration of a more mundane fight? Because vampires, monster cats, pyromaniac tigers, shikigami destroying a house with a finger, a girl with a monkey arm, a ghostly middle schooler that's older than the MC, and a girl becoming a medusa-like enshrined goddess is all fine, but Karen (a noted martial artist) kicking Araragi through a concrete pillar is somehow entirely implausible?)
On January 09 2017 18:43 Slaughter wrote:
I dunno probably because Karen is just a human and all the previously mentioned characters are supernatural entities or were possessed by one. "normal" humans like Karen don't have any reason to be able to achieve that feat of strength.I don't know the argument they were going for or its context, just spitballing hue.


Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 18:42 Grettin wrote:
On January 09 2017 17:51 Slaughter wrote:
I hope they do the flashback with Kagura's mom.


+ Show Spoiler +
Didn't they foreshadow in the intro?


Yea I wrote that before I watched the episode. She is indeed in the OP.


I've already mentioned this before and it's pretty besides your point but Monogatari gets portrayed in how the characters perceived a scene or want to a scene to be perceived and not really how it happened. So Karen didn't actually destroy buildings as she was fighting with him. it's just how one of them or both perceived it to be: an epic fight between sister and older brother.

As an example, Nadeko playing the game of life and twister with Koyomi has all these lewd angles because that's how Nadeko wants to be seen by Koyomi, she's trying to seduce him. While at the same time that's clearly not how Araragi sees her at all given his reaction during the scenes.
In contrast the bathing scene with Shinobu wasn't sexualized in the least despite it being about the two characters having a (naked) bath together since neither of them thought of it that way and it wasn't an issue.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 09 2017 10:03 GMT
#117516
Is it appropriate to make a Zoo poll yet?
Skol
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 10:08:23
January 09 2017 10:07 GMT
#117517
we had one just recently

also Demi-chan ED > Demi-chan OP Emnjay. I've listened to that shit a million times now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
January 09 2017 10:13 GMT
#117518
On January 09 2017 19:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
Is it appropriate to make a Zoo poll yet?


What about a Demi-chan poll?

We can't always be picking best zoo girl. (Cat, btw.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 09 2017 10:16 GMT
#117519
Demi poll incoming next week. You can hold me to that.
Skol
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 09 2017 12:18 GMT
#117520
On January 09 2017 07:36 Slaughter wrote:
Numy you should read the Yona manga. Pretty great. I'm just holding my breath for Hak x Yona to happen.


Sigh one day I'll try get into manga. Hak x Yona must happen. They so perfect for each other ;(
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