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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 07:58:26
September 23 2016 07:56 GMT
#115281
On September 23 2016 15:42 lestye wrote:
Now that this season is coming to an end, what looks awesome for you guys next season? I'll throw out the super obvious answer and just say I am super pumped for the second season of Hibike Euphonium.


for me

https://goo.gl/73tz0T

green = watch
yellow = try

may add shows i've missed if people are saying good stuff about it or if it sells a lot of bds.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
September 23 2016 08:17 GMT
#115282
On September 23 2016 16:32 Unleashing wrote:
Just watch haikyuu, miragee

also did you ever end up watching TTGL


I don't know about that. I honestly don't see the appeal in full-blown sports anime and it's to seasons a 25 episodes just to watch the upcoming season. On top of that, I have already marked two sports anime, Yuri on Ice and All Out!, for fall which is already more than I have watched in year.

And no, I didn't. I watched the other show recommended to me at that time. Katanagatari? I swear I will start it next though! Actually, I'm going to watch ep1 now so I don't have any excuses anymore, lol.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 09:05:53
September 23 2016 09:05 GMT
#115283
btw i'll warn you now that episode 4 is pretty bad, worst episode of the show

also looked like shit compared to the rest of the show
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 14:54:37
September 23 2016 14:52 GMT
#115284
Next season seems rather mediocre from some of the synopsis I've read so far. Worst season ever?

On September 23 2016 13:17 Slaughter wrote:
To BigFan and Nezgar.

+ Show Spoiler +

I am more interested at what Subaru has to do with this. Why him and how does this kid from another world have a connection to the jealous witch? Seems like maybe he maybe was involved with this and just doesn't remember. There are some pretty interesting theories floating around about both Subaru and Satella but I won't spoil as they are based on knowledge from the LNs. However I will say that the whole thing seems pretty interesting and it will be awesome to see it all unravel to see how the threads connect. I am reading the lns slowly (Yen Press plz) but hopefully they animate more.

hmm good point. + Show Spoiler +
I personally wonder how he got dragged into this world in the first place as well. Maybe it's as you mentioned, that there is a connection with the witch.


On September 23 2016 13:52 Slaughter wrote:
That is a good idea Toad. To watch something from backlog. Problem for me has always been motivation lol. I have to build up a lot just to start things that don't immediately draw me in somehow so my backlog usually doesn't go down t.t Tho I did watch Steins Gate and both seasons of Log Horizon and 1 other show this season.

hmm well, so long as you are watching something that's interesting to you, motivation should never be an issue imo. As mentioned, you already know what kind of anime you like so why not line up your TWL with different types of anime and just watch what appeals to you at that moment in time?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 15:48:21
September 23 2016 15:48 GMT
#115285
Finished Space battleship Yamato. It was alright.

+ Show Spoiler [Yamato thoughts, light LoGH spoilers] +
Felt like they squandered a bit of potential with some rather unforgettable antagonist writing. There are two ways to really go about this kind of show. Have the exploration/unknown drive the peril of the journey or have a constant force of antagonism making tension in the journey. We know what the end result will be as ending on failure is just not really enjoyable for a viewer. So it's really important to get that right which I felt they just mucked up. There were some really solid episodes in there(AI one was really nice) marred by the really bad ones. It was as if they were torn between catering for a wider audience or making it more focused yet landed up doing neither.

I can't recall who it was but remember reading that a core principle in writing is that your protagonist is only as good as the forces of antagonism. It's an interesting perspective that anime too often disregards. Take LoGH as an example, the weakest parts of the story is when we no longer have the conflict between the major competent forces in the story. It's vitally important to keep both sides interesting and competent.

I'm kind of ranting a bit here since I really enjoyed parts of the show, just dislike how bad they made the antagonist. Hell it's the same reason the Marvel movies are so forgettable, just no antagonist driving the story in a compelling way. The whole Garmilian side were inept to the point of hilarity yet we are supposed to believe they subjugated a massive portion of multiple galaxies? Falling back on Desler continually was awful.

I have more thoughts but it's kind of getting into rambling now so I'll just leave it. At least this means I did enjoy the show to some degree as normally if it's just poor then I wouldn't have such opinions about it.


Plugsuits are still the best though. So 10/10 show.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
September 23 2016 17:45 GMT
#115286
Finally got around to watching the Mahoutsukai no Yome OVA. It was alright.

The biggest draw of the manga is getting neat stories that involve the world and its fairy-tale creatures. Stuff like this or this. Chise herself is a fairly boring character, and she's generally just used as a vehicle to explore the world. So really, I have no interest whatsoever in her past, which is unfortunately what this OVA series seems to be focused on. The way the story is presented here basically makes it into Natsume.

In other news, the Natsume PV looks like Natsume.
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Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 00:40:03
September 23 2016 17:52 GMT
#115287
I finished the first Getter Robo manga recently and the similarities between it and TTGL are very apparent. Wasn't the biggest fan of TTGL but after reading Getter Robo my opinion on it improved by quite a bit. I'll probably rewatch TTGL someday again and see what I think about it since it's been a while since I watched it.

As for my opinion on it, it was honestly pretty bad but it appealed to my inner child. It, along with Mazinger, were also some of the earliest mecha series and influenced so many shows besides TTGL so i'm not gonna give the writing too much shit.

Also 17 chapters my ass, they're all between 60 to 120 pages long.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
September 23 2016 18:09 GMT
#115288
Glad I decided to not drop 91 days. This shit is getting intense
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
September 23 2016 18:12 GMT
#115289
On September 23 2016 18:05 Unleashing wrote:
btw i'll warn you now that episode 4 is pretty bad, worst episode of the show

also looked like shit compared to the rest of the show


Ok but why is that? The show _looks_ pretty good so far. I don't dig the characters yet and I'm not a fan of this GAR shit but the animation carried it for the first two episodes.

On September 23 2016 23:52 BigFan wrote:
Next season seems rather mediocre from some of the synopsis I've read so far. Worst season ever?


Really? After summer just happened? lol And worst season ever was spring '15.

On September 24 2016 00:48 Numy wrote:
Finished Space battleship Yamato. It was alright.

+ Show Spoiler [Yamato thoughts, light LoGH spoilers] +
Felt like they squandered a bit of potential with some rather unforgettable antagonist writing. There are two ways to really go about this kind of show. Have the exploration/unknown drive the peril of the journey or have a constant force of antagonism making tension in the journey. We know what the end result will be as ending on failure is just not really enjoyable for a viewer. So it's really important to get that right which I felt they just mucked up. There were some really solid episodes in there(AI one was really nice) marred by the really bad ones. It was as if they were torn between catering for a wider audience or making it more focused yet landed up doing neither.

I can't recall who it was but remember reading that a core principle in writing is that your protagonist is only as good as the forces of antagonism. It's an interesting perspective that anime too often disregards. Take LoGH as an example, the weakest parts of the story is when we no longer have the conflict between the major competent forces in the story. It's vitally important to keep both sides interesting and competent.

I'm kind of ranting a bit here since I really enjoyed parts of the show, just dislike how bad they made the antagonist. Hell it's the same reason the Marvel movies are so forgettable, just no antagonist driving the story in a compelling way. The whole Garmilian side were inept to the point of hilarity yet we are supposed to believe they subjugated a massive portion of multiple galaxies? Falling back on Desler continually was awful.

I have more thoughts but it's kind of getting into rambling now so I'll just leave it. At least this means I did enjoy the show to some degree as normally if it's just poor then I wouldn't have such opinions about it.


Plugsuits are still the best though. So 10/10 show.


+ Show Spoiler [some serious LoGH spoilers] +
Well, I think LoGH did well even after Reinhard basically had won the war. The church was quite mediocre as a villain to be honest and I even remember saying this when I was watching. However, Reuenthal later made a good "villain". The nice thing about LoGH was that there were very few characters I would call villains. Pretty much only the church and the fezzani. The other factions had a diverse spectrum of good, bad and arguable characters.
But yeah, I agree on what you say. That's one of the reasons I adore HxH so much because the villains here are real villains (except that bomber guy, he was terrible) and terrible OP compared to the main characters. Deus Ex Yamato had some decent Villains with Elk and Wolf but that's it. I think the show would have been much better if they focussed on exploration and sci-fi aspects as well as difficult situations, for example the technical difficulties they had. A show can be very enjoyable even if you know the outcome as long as the story and events unfold in an interesting way.


I guess they did right and made a certain character a woman for the sequel, right Numy?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:24:48
September 23 2016 18:16 GMT
#115290
^ This season is a great candidate for worst season ever.

That being said, I don't have much hope for this upcoming one :[ 0 shows stood out where I said "yes I definitely want to watch this". Its hard to beat a season where I ended up dropping all but 2 shows but next season doesn't look good just from reading over synopsis of a few shows. I think I picked like 7 to try and I am not exited about any of them. This can easily change of course.

Edit: I suppose I'll list the shows I am trying.
Bloodivores
Bungou Stray Dogs S2
3-gatsu no Lion
Luger Code 1951
Okusama ga Seitokaichou!+!
Occultic;Nine
Shuumatsu no Izetta
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:35:26
September 23 2016 18:23 GMT
#115291
no way can spring '15 be worst season ever. That had: Souma, OreGairu and DanMachi

So much more worse stuff

I guess I could try Bungou Stray Dogs s1 instead of DeathParade since that's on my mental to-try-out list as well and s2 is soonish.

Things I'll try out next season:
3-gatsu no Lion
Brave Witches (never watched the non-spinoff)
Girlish Number
Keijo!!!!! (into drop episode 2 but you just have to watch ep1)
Occultic;Nine
Stella no Mahou
Touken Ranbu: Hanamura (based Dogakobo being based. Can't remember something from them that I didn't like so going completly blind into it not even reading synopsis o/)
WORKING (probably together with Emnjay)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 23 2016 18:33 GMT
#115292
On September 24 2016 02:52 Lackbleeder wrote:
I finished the first Getter Robo manga recently and the similarities between it and TTGL are very apparent, wasn't the biggest fan of TTGL but after reading Getter Robo my opinion on it improved by quite a bit. I'll probably rewatch TTGL someday again and see what I think about it since it's been a while since I watched it.

As for my opinion on it, it was honestly pretty bad but it appealed to my inner child. It, along with Mazinger, were also some of the earliest mecha series and influenced so many shows besides TTGL so i'm not gonna give the writing too much shit.

Also 17 chapters my ass, they're all between 60 to 120 pages long.

You going to continue with the other series? Getter Robo G is fairly short and forgettable, but Getter Robo Go is some really good shit, its one of my favorite manga.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
September 23 2016 18:40 GMT
#115293
On September 24 2016 03:23 Toadesstern wrote:I guess I could try Bungou Stray Dogs s1 instead of DeathParade since that's on my mental to-try-out list as well and s2 is soonish.


lol, did you even read my post?^^ And Stray Dogs is genuinely terrible. Better go for Death Parade if it's between the two...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 23 2016 18:44 GMT
#115294
Stray Dogs was far from terrible. Its about the same level as Death Parade.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:46:01
September 23 2016 18:45 GMT
#115295
Stray Dogs was 50 % silly faces and not much else. How can you say it's on the same level as Death Parade. I don't even...
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:51:25
September 23 2016 18:50 GMT
#115296
Stray Dogs was reaally good in the last 3-4 episodes IMO. First few were average/bad, then it got better. If it keeps up how it ended, I'm sure it'll be one of my favs next season.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 19:06:04
September 23 2016 18:52 GMT
#115297
On September 24 2016 03:40 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2016 03:23 Toadesstern wrote:I guess I could try Bungou Stray Dogs s1 instead of DeathParade since that's on my mental to-try-out list as well and s2 is soonish.


lol, did you even read my post?^^ And Stray Dogs is genuinely terrible. Better go for Death Parade if it's between the two...

yeah I did but tatami galaxy sounds a bit too serious for me right now. Death Parade it is

also, since you asked, my MAL: https://myanimelist.net/profile/Toadesstern
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:54:22
September 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#115298
Vote for Death Parade. I never finished Stray Dogs because it seemed banal and what miragee said with the funny faces thing. If it actually got better later, dang. Dropped it too early. ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-23 18:59:47
September 23 2016 18:56 GMT
#115299
On September 24 2016 03:12 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [some serious LoGH spoilers] +
Well, I think LoGH did well even after Reinhard basically had won the war. The church was quite mediocre as a villain to be honest and I even remember saying this when I was watching. However, Reuenthal later made a good "villain". The nice thing about LoGH was that there were very few characters I would call villains. Pretty much only the church and the fezzani. The other factions had a diverse spectrum of good, bad and arguable characters.
But yeah, I agree on what you say. That's one of the reasons I adore HxH so much because the villains here are real villains (except that bomber guy, he was terrible) and terrible OP compared to the main characters. Deus Ex Yamato had some decent Villains with Elk and Wolf but that's it. I think the show would have been much better if they focussed on exploration and sci-fi aspects as well as difficult situations, for example the technical difficulties they had. A show can be very enjoyable even if you know the outcome as long as the story and events unfold in an interesting way.


I guess they did right and made a certain character a woman for the sequel, right Numy?

Villain and antagonist aren't quite the same thing. It's an important distinction to make. They are often the same characters but the one doesn't inherently mean the other.

+ Show Spoiler [LoGH,Yamato,HxH] +
Reuenthal wasn't a villain, he didn't really have any evil schemes or actions. In fact I'd say he was rather a good guy. He did oppose Reinhard but if you look at it from another angle Reinhard is a dictator that could turn into a despot. LoGH is tough to talk about like this because in a way there are multiple protagonists as the story is able to take it's time dealing with each person. While Reinhard is the major protagonist you could make a case for Yang being a secondary one and even Reuenthal/Wolfgang or maybe it's a case of each character taking turns at being antagonist/protagonist. That's kind of how you want to set up political epics/operas.

Yamato being a space voyage story shouldn't really have tried this I think. They kind of dabbled in it but never gave enough time to the characters or the plot point to make it work properly. The whole rebel faction of Garmilians could have been an interesting thread but instead it just got shoved in there quickly. They just needed to either be tighter in their focus or expand on the length of show. A traditional space voyage story has a lot of "dead time" that could be used in lots of interesting ways while instead Yamato rushed through this potential. It's weird since they even gave themselves a decent time period of "365 days till earth dies".

HxH does that pretty well with it's arc structure. Sure Gon is the "main" protagonists but you see often the story sidelines him for other characters to take the spotlight letting the story and world build itself up more. I'd even argue that Gon is the least interesting character in the story and merely serves as a method of driving us to the next interesting piece. Pity HiatusxHiatus won't really deliver more.


It would have been 11/10 if all the males were changed too. Can never have enough plugsuits on cute girls.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 23 2016 18:58 GMT
#115300
On September 24 2016 03:45 Miragee wrote:
Stray Dogs was 50 % silly faces and not much else. How can you say it's on the same level as Death Parade. I don't even...


Its become obvious (especially these last few days) that you and I have a radically different take on things. Death Parade had some very low and boring troughs and some stronger parts, very similar to Stray Dogs that had some pretty boring/silly episodes but some really good kick ass ones thrown in with it.
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