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On November 10 2013 11:20 XenOmega wrote: What are some of the great Opening this season? Looking to improve my ipod's collection!
Best standalone song in my opinion:
@BigFan: Tokyo Ravens is an action series atm that can be pretty funny. Doesn't really have mech and the CGI can be kind of bad but otherwise it's relatively enjoyable. Strike the Blood pretty similar in that vein except less CGI.
I actually watched a bit of Tokyo Ravens but after 3 episodes, I'm not finding it's to my liking :/ I'll take a look at Strike the blood, thanks.
On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .
Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.
Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".
They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.
I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .
Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.
NEW EPISODE? WHERE? :O I've been waiting for it but I only ever used the same anime site and forgot to check other ones XD The one I use doesn't have the newest episode of WA2 up even though I've been checking since yesterday
lol. I didn't read the wiki, just scrolled through it and caught something like 200x or so for the anime.
btw FIND ME YOUR TORADORA RANT! It's been like 15 pages or so since and I'm way too lazy to check each post you made. Would be faster if you can remind me of the date/time or something
The episode comes out today, I watched it an hour or two ago. These guys usually post it before anyone else so I spam f5 from like 3 till I see it's posted http://horriblesubs.info/. You can download the torrent from there. You're slow man, don't know where to get your anime torrents. I rewatch the UTW subs (google it) which comes out tomorrow, seems to have slightly better subs.
To be honest I don't think anything related to the anime came out in 2007, probably manga but then again I don't read manga. The anime stopped forever ago, though there are like 110 episodes of the regular show and probably 30 or so more episodes of Ova's and movies. Really complete series.
I really don't remember which rant you didn't reply to lol. I think it's fine probably no biggie if none of us can remember or find it lol.
oh I see. I just use an anime website that uploaded them with different settings and such so I just get the resolution I want but maybe I should go to the source since it's also horriblesubs lol.
oh I see, was just surprised that they were discussing an anime that wasn't recent is all. Thought they were watching an ongoing anime is what I'm trying to say. haha ya, I guess. Well, I'll try to take another look soon than later and if still no luck, just going to forget it. We did discuss toradora quite a bit so I think if we stopped, it won't be too bad since we hit on the main things I think
If you want to watch a show go to MAL, ignore everything on MAL about the show and head to the "fansubbers" part (scroll down a little after successfully searching for anime-title). You'll find a list of groups who are subbing it, anything without a language behind it in brackets is supposed to be english subtitles. You also get a rating on said groups but like I said, screw everything on MAL except for the bare information who is subbing what. Once you're there check out what fansubber group is the one you like the most or the fastest one, click their name and there should be a link to their homepage. Pro-tip: ctrl-leftclick every name under fansubbers if you don't know which one you like and check them out.
Go there and aquire animu. Probably the most simple way to go about it.
Some groups like horriblesubs and commie have a nice schedule on their homepage so you know when stuff is usually going to be out. These two have the most straightforward schedule for me at least and I really like the commie-schedule page to keep track of things without having to go through timezone bullshit and to have an idea how close a new episode is to getting released.
oh I see, didn't know about that. Thanks! Will take a look at that next time I need to find episodes
edit: Can anyone recommend anything like Log Horizon? What I mean is, an action anime that's ongoing atm(not completed yet) which has an interesting central theme but we still have some of the funny comedic moments(+ Show Spoiler +
Akatsuki kicking Naotsugu and her been in loving with Shiroe
). It doesn't have to be the same theme as Log Horizon, something like Naruto would do, just not as long >.> Mech would be nice and I think several were mentioned several pages back but it's hard to find posts around here lol. Doesn't have to be romcom or anything since I got some good recommendations earlier.
HxH.
wow, it's >100 episodes lol. I'm not sure I can watch that much with the time I have. thanks!
On November 10 2013 12:04 maru~ wrote: Trust me, it's worth it.
Not doubting that, just like I'm not doubting one piece is a good anime but 100 episode is way too many to watch when it's so close to exam season lol. I probably won't be done watching for 2-3 weeks even if it's 7-8 a day XD With an ongoing anime, it's usually 6-7 to catch up, then I just watch weekly so easier to manage imo
Tokyo Ravens is actually good versus Strike the Blood being another Index clone. Unfortunately the adaptation of the former thus far is pretty damned shit. So sad.
On November 10 2013 12:04 maru~ wrote: Trust me, it's worth it.
Not doubting that, just like I'm not doubting one piece is a good anime but 100 episode is way too many to watch when it's so close to exam season lol. I probably won't be done watching for 2-3 weeks even if it's 7-8 a day XD With an ongoing anime, it's usually 6-7 to catch up, then I just watch weekly so easier to manage imo
You can watch it after exams. Actually, 100 eps isn't even that much, you can watch this in a week or so.
Well if he is afraid of length which is why he wants a currently airing anime then I suggest Kill la Kill. A crazy anime that doesn't make sense with good fights and comedy.
On November 10 2013 12:17 BlackMagister wrote: Well if he is afraid of length which is why he wants a currently airing anime then I suggest Kill la Kill. A crazy anime that doesn't make sense with good fights and comedy.
I watched two episodes of Kill la Kill, it had over the top comedy and wasn't too bad but haven't watched since. May give it another try if I can't find anything else.
On November 10 2013 12:06 Ecael wrote: Tokyo Ravens is actually good versus Strike the Blood being another Index clone. Unfortunately the adaptation of the former thus far is pretty damned shit. So sad.
hmm maybe that's why but it just I dunno, felt so bizzare. I was enjoying the first episode but then I watched the 2nd and 3rd and felt it was showing me all it had to offer and the main character felt really out of place?
On November 10 2013 12:04 maru~ wrote: Trust me, it's worth it.
Not doubting that, just like I'm not doubting one piece is a good anime but 100 episode is way too many to watch when it's so close to exam season lol. I probably won't be done watching for 2-3 weeks even if it's 7-8 a day XD With an ongoing anime, it's usually 6-7 to catch up, then I just watch weekly so easier to manage imo
You can watch it after exams. Actually, 100 eps isn't even that much, you can watch this in a week or so.
well, ya, after exams I can. Wanted one prior to exams lol.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
Watching Arpeggio, Log Horizon and Valvrave atm. Tokyo ravens, I'm on the fence and haven't watched since episode 3.
A friend of mine recommended Strike the blood as well, hmm. Thanks for the input everyone! If you guys have another more animes in mind, please do tell. Obviously, an ongoing is better for time constraints but if it's done but maybe 15 episodes or so, I can probably watch that in several days time and should be ok
On November 10 2013 12:49 BigFan wrote: btw, how is Kyoukai no Kanata? I was interested in it a while back and it's ongoing atm.
Shit and sleep aid with random moments of awesome. I suspect kyoani attempts to relieve the pain temporarily every so often so it hurts more when they start applying it again.
hmm maybe that's why but it just I dunno, felt so bizzare. I was enjoying the first episode but then I watched the 2nd and 3rd and felt it was showing me all it had to offer and the main character felt really out of place?
No Harutora is actually like that, the author is just slow with the start of his series in general. It took like 5 vols before the story got real, and that's in a 9 vol part 1 of series.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
Not sure what's left in Arpeggio after they remove politics, just bullshit combat and mental models? I am not [particularly unhappy with it I guess, but not really satisfied either.
Tokyo Ravens' CGI isn't the primary offender imo, it is the laziness that they are approaching the series with. The most recent episode's fight was fairly exciting in writing. The lazy animation and lack of actually doing anything just makes it feel tepid at best. They are also showing some bad signs with axing main story parts to make room for silly sol short story portions. Sigh why they do this to me ;;
On November 10 2013 12:48 BigFan wrote: Obviously, an ongoing is better for time constraints but if it's done but maybe 15 episodes or so, I can probably watch that in several days time and should be ok
Magi? First season has 25 eps and is kinda bad towards the end, but second season is looking a lot better so far.
On November 10 2013 12:49 BigFan wrote: btw, how is Kyoukai no Kanata? I was interested in it a while back and it's ongoing atm.
Shit and sleep aid with random moments of awesome. I suspect kyoani attempts to relieve the pain temporarily every so often so it hurts more when they start applying it again.
hmm maybe that's why but it just I dunno, felt so bizzare. I was enjoying the first episode but then I watched the 2nd and 3rd and felt it was showing me all it had to offer and the main character felt really out of place?
No Harutora is actually like that, the author is just slow with the start of his series in general. It took like 5 vols before the story got real, and that's in a 9 vol part 1 of series.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
Not sure what's left in Arpeggio after they remove politics, just bullshit combat and mental models? I am not [particularly unhappy with it I guess, but not really satisfied either.
Tokyo Ravens' CGI isn't the primary offender imo, it is the laziness that they are approaching the series with. The most recent episode's fight was fairly exciting in writing. The lazy animation and lack of actually doing anything just makes it feel tepid at best. They are also showing some bad signs with axing main story parts to make room for silly sol short story portions. Sigh why they do this to me ;;
On November 10 2013 12:49 BigFan wrote: btw, how is Kyoukai no Kanata? I was interested in it a while back and it's ongoing atm.
Shit and sleep aid with random moments of awesome. I suspect kyoani attempts to relieve the pain temporarily every so often so it hurts more when they start applying it again.
hmm maybe that's why but it just I dunno, felt so bizzare. I was enjoying the first episode but then I watched the 2nd and 3rd and felt it was showing me all it had to offer and the main character felt really out of place?
No Harutora is actually like that, the author is just slow with the start of his series in general. It took like 5 vols before the story got real, and that's in a 9 vol part 1 of series.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
Not sure what's left in Arpeggio after they remove politics, just bullshit combat and mental models? I am not [particularly unhappy with it I guess, but not really satisfied either.
Tokyo Ravens' CGI isn't the primary offender imo, it is the laziness that they are approaching the series with. The most recent episode's fight was fairly exciting in writing. The lazy animation and lack of actually doing anything just makes it feel tepid at best. They are also showing some bad signs with axing main story parts to make room for silly sol short story portions. Sigh why they do this to me ;;
ouch although I read that the last episode was pretty good. hmm, maybe I should watch the first episode to see what its like since I have different tastes to most people XD oh I see, ya, it's really slow and feels bizzare to watch. The first episode and what happened, felt like it came out of nowhere tbh although I was intrigued to see what happens next.
I dunno, I find I'm really excited to see Arpeggio's plot advance. The combat is intriguing and mental models are ok. Interesting to observe their change especially Haruka's recent one and Takao's too. Could it be better? I'm honestly not sure. It is about boats fighting so I just dunno how they can make it that much better lol. Well, whatever is causing the problem in Tokyo Raven, they better shape up because in general, I'm pretty open mind and watch most animes but it makes me cringe just thinking about it ><
On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .
Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.
Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".
They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.
I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .
Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.
Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.
Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.
Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?
I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.
I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.
edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!
Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler +
TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while
I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!
hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!
To me Arpeggio combat just comes down to using bullshit powers in mysterious ways and ignoring how combat has ever worked because of magi...I mean highly advanced technologies. I had an easier time ignoring stuff like that in other works, but for some reason Arpeggio just ticks me off. The politics and subs are basically what's keeping me reading the manga.
As for Tokyo Ravens, if I put up with it for another like 8 episodes I might see a good fight at last. If I can keep up with it for even longer Sakura Ayane will be back to carry the show. Now how long can I endure the pain~
On November 10 2013 13:49 Ecael wrote: To me Arpeggio combat just comes down to using bullshit powers in mysterious ways and ignoring how combat has ever worked because of magi...I mean highly advanced technologies. I had an easier time ignoring stuff like that in other works, but for some reason Arpeggio just ticks me off. The politics and subs are basically what's keeping me reading the manga.
As for Tokyo Ravens, if I put up with it for another like 8 episodes I might see a good fight at last. If I can keep up with it for even longer Sakura Ayane will be back to carry the show. Now how long can I endure the pain~
Well, the show is about the Fog having very powerful ships with advanced technology. I'm not sure what you expected from that lol. I mean, yes, that episode where + Show Spoiler +
they defeated Takao with the gun(or w/e its called) was a bit out of the blue(for anime at least)
but the fights seem well done. I made a mention to a friend of mine about it a while back. He ended up finding the show even though I only gave him some general description and watched it. He ended up loving it and watches it every week. Considering what the show is about, I think it's impressive that they are keeping us interested in it even if politics had to be involved. When was the last time we had an anime about ships fighting + Show Spoiler +
FMP, and that was infinitely better done. That was more just the sigma manga though, don't think anime itself covered anything except TDD-1 bullying subs. Incidentally it was also commonplace in WW2 from which Arpeggio ships originated from, so I am not sure what your point is. The show has no politics in comparison to the manga, that is making all the more annoying. As for combat, sure, you can just explain everything with magic. That's basically how it worked in the source too. But it just ticks me off a lot here for whatever reason. Let's be honest, when ships can split water and pull up a sub from underwater, wtf is the point of a sub being a sub anymore. The suspension of disbelief and the whole turn brain off and enjoy random shit simply not working very well for me with Arpeggio in general, idk why.
FMP didn't have much submarine combat in the anime. Most submarine stuff in that were in LN volumes that haven't been animated yet, though granted if they were to be animated they would be glorious. IMO you are just too attached to cancerboats to like Arpeggio.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
The CG is fine for the ships themselves since they're mechanical, but the characters still look awfully stiff. I can understand why they chose to use full CG (juxtaposing drawn art with CG almost always looks awful, and half the scenes consist of mental models standing on ships), but it's still kinda annoying.
On November 10 2013 12:49 BigFan wrote: btw, how is Kyoukai no Kanata? I was interested in it a while back and it's ongoing atm.
Shit and sleep aid with random moments of awesome. I suspect kyoani attempts to relieve the pain temporarily every so often so it hurts more when they start applying it again.
hmm maybe that's why but it just I dunno, felt so bizzare. I was enjoying the first episode but then I watched the 2nd and 3rd and felt it was showing me all it had to offer and the main character felt really out of place?
No Harutora is actually like that, the author is just slow with the start of his series in general. It took like 5 vols before the story got real, and that's in a 9 vol part 1 of series.
On November 10 2013 12:40 Kipsate wrote: Tokyo ravens is ruined by bad CGI, Arpeggio uses it quite well and its OP is nice. Strike the blood is oke.
Log Horizon and Valvrave(with sum Nana) have nice OP's aswell.
Not sure what's left in Arpeggio after they remove politics, just bullshit combat and mental models? I am not [particularly unhappy with it I guess, but not really satisfied either.
Tokyo Ravens' CGI isn't the primary offender imo, it is the laziness that they are approaching the series with. The most recent episode's fight was fairly exciting in writing. The lazy animation and lack of actually doing anything just makes it feel tepid at best. They are also showing some bad signs with axing main story parts to make room for silly sol short story portions. Sigh why they do this to me ;;
Still tempted to pick Tokyo Ravens back up to deal with the lack of scans. ;;
On November 10 2013 13:49 Ecael wrote: To me Arpeggio combat just comes down to using bullshit powers in mysterious ways and ignoring how combat has ever worked because of magi...I mean highly advanced technologies. I had an easier time ignoring stuff like that in other works, but for some reason Arpeggio just ticks me off. The politics and subs are basically what's keeping me reading the manga.
As for Tokyo Ravens, if I put up with it for another like 8 episodes I might see a good fight at last. If I can keep up with it for even longer Sakura Ayane will be back to carry the show. Now how long can I endure the pain~
Well, the show is about the Fog having very powerful ships with advanced technology. I'm not sure what you expected from that lol. I mean, yes, that episode where + Show Spoiler +
they defeated Takao with the gun(or w/e its called) was a bit out of the blue(for anime at least)
but the fights seem well done. I made a mention to a friend of mine about it a while back. He ended up finding the show even though I only gave him some general description and watched it. He ended up loving it and watches it every week. Considering what the show is about, I think it's impressive that they are keeping us interested in it even if politics had to be involved. When was the last time we had an anime about ships fighting + Show Spoiler +
and submarines winning against heavy ships?
lol.
The point is that Arpeggio is much more than just the combat. One of the most interesting parts of the story involves the political wrangling with the Japanese government, and how the ground forces (ie. not the navy) are itching for a fight after being rendered useless for years by the Fog.
Also, Silent Service.
On November 10 2013 14:09 Ecael wrote: FMP, and that was infinitely better done. That was more just the sigma manga though, don't think anime itself covered anything except TDD-1 bullying subs. Incidentally it was also commonplace in WW2 from which Arpeggio ships originated from, so I am not sure what your point is. The show has no politics in comparison to the manga, that is making all the more annoying. As for combat, sure, you can just explain everything with magic. That's basically how it worked in the source too. But it just ticks me off a lot here for whatever reason. Let's be honest, when ships can split water and pull up a sub from underwater, wtf is the point of a sub being a sub anymore. The suspension of disbelief and the whole turn brain off and enjoy random shit simply not working very well for me with Arpeggio in general, idk why.
The point of being a sub is to not get detected. There's a good reason why 400 and 402 are largely relegated to information gathering~
On November 10 2013 14:14 Sentenal wrote: FMP didn't have much submarine combat in the anime. Most submarine stuff in that were in LN volumes that haven't been animated yet, though granted if they were to be animated they would be glorious. IMO you are just too attached to cancerboats to like Arpeggio.
The main problem is that the anime is lopping off important chunks of the story.
On November 10 2013 14:09 Ecael wrote: FMP, and that was infinitely better done. Incidentally it was also commonplace in WW2 from which Arpeggio ships originated from, so I am not sure what your point is. The show has no politics in comparison to the manga, that is making all the more annoying. As for combat, sure, you can just explain everything with magic. That's basically how it worked in the source too. But it just ticks me off a lot here for whatever reason. Let's be honest, when ships can split water and pull up a sub from underwater, wtf is the point of a sub being a sub anymore. The suspension of disbelief and the whole turn brain off and enjoy random shit simply not working very well for me with Arpeggio in general, idk why.
sorry but what's FMP? I feel like I should know this or already do but I can't recall lol. Having said that, my point was that the show wouldn't or rather might not be as interesting without some magi. I mean cmon, would the show have even started if the fog didn't have magi and were just plain OP in head to head combat?
That one episode where Kirishima took out 4 boats using some overheard ball that she threw then it separated and easily destroyed them. If it was just usual ships without that, it would be harder to write a manga or have an anime since most battles would be similar tactics. With magi, they can at least use different ways which don't need an explanation. I guess I'm saying that it's not a real life war. I have a feeling that we both missed each other's point though XD
hmm ya, less politics is not something I like but who knows what the reasoning is. Maybe it can't be done as well on screen? I'm just thinking of excuses for not having it. Maybe there was some disagreement with the author? so ya, I'm not sure why they didn't have more politics in it since I would've liked to see it.
@bolded hehe ya I get your point and won't disagree. I guess the main idea is that you can still overpower a much stronger ship with a sub if you have strategy which as we have seen, it worked if you consider the explanations as normal. By yes, since I went off topic, you're right. There really isn't a point of being a sub although to be fair, subs are small and move much faster than a larger ship plus in the anime, we've only see that pull up a sub move once so far. Maybe there are more to come but it could've been a one timer as well. I'll wait to see how much more we see in combat next time. My guess is that since you are reading the manga and the lack of politics plus you're thinking about it which means that you don't enjoy it. I haven't read the manga so no expectations and watch the anime every week but I don't bother questioning anything aside from the general questions of what does this mean or that? I don't bother thinking about the combat and in general, I'm not bothered. Maybe you just watched too much anime/read manga which is causing you to dislike what you see?
edit: didn't realize I wrote so much lol. Hopefully, it's not confusing since I repeated myself ><
On November 10 2013 13:49 Ecael wrote: To me Arpeggio combat just comes down to using bullshit powers in mysterious ways and ignoring how combat has ever worked because of magi...I mean highly advanced technologies. I had an easier time ignoring stuff like that in other works, but for some reason Arpeggio just ticks me off. The politics and subs are basically what's keeping me reading the manga.
As for Tokyo Ravens, if I put up with it for another like 8 episodes I might see a good fight at last. If I can keep up with it for even longer Sakura Ayane will be back to carry the show. Now how long can I endure the pain~
Well, the show is about the Fog having very powerful ships with advanced technology. I'm not sure what you expected from that lol. I mean, yes, that episode where + Show Spoiler +
they defeated Takao with the gun(or w/e its called) was a bit out of the blue(for anime at least)
but the fights seem well done. I made a mention to a friend of mine about it a while back. He ended up finding the show even though I only gave him some general description and watched it. He ended up loving it and watches it every week. Considering what the show is about, I think it's impressive that they are keeping us interested in it even if politics had to be involved. When was the last time we had an anime about ships fighting + Show Spoiler +
and submarines winning against heavy ships?
lol.
The point is that Arpeggio is much more than just the combat. One of the most interesting parts of the story involves the political wrangling with the Japanese government, and how the ground forces (ie. not the navy) are itching for a fight after being rendered useless for years by the Fog.
Also, Silent Service.
hmm I guess I see your point. I didn't realize the ground army is itching to get into a fight with the Fog since the anime doesn't touch on that. Either way, I plan to read the manga after the anime is done so I'll be able to get all the politics and such
EPT
http://horriblesubs.info/. You can download the torrent from there. You're slow man, don't know where to get your anime torrents. I rewatch the UTW subs (google it) which comes out tomorrow, seems to have slightly better subs. 
Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone? 
