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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 10 2013 16:41 GMT
#65181
is captain harlock movie out yet? any link? cant see it.... thanks

big fan of gun frontier here, harlock and tochiro are amazing
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
November 10 2013 17:01 GMT
#65182
It's out but I don't know if there are subs yet.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
November 10 2013 17:31 GMT
#65183
I really enjoy all the explanation from log horizon. It,s like a beginner guide to mmo:-)
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
November 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#65184
On November 10 2013 18:10 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 16:27 Sterlymobile wrote:
Golden Time 6
+ Show Spoiler +
Linda looks so much better with long hair. Even though I didn't expect things to pick up so suddenly with Linda and Bahnri. I'm starting to like this show quite a bit. All the VA are doing an exceptional job imo, really getting each point across. Even though it looks like Koko will be main girl, from the OP and stuff, I'm still 100% team Linda. Well played Golden Time keeping up the tradition of best girl never main girl.

ya they are doing a good job with that. + Show Spoiler +
I'm also team Linda and hope he ends up with her but considering what the story is, he'll likely end up with koko. The show seems to have gotten better in the last two episodes or so compared to when it first started so let's hope it continues that way.


no favorite here! but i expect delicously heartrending drama.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1958 Posts
November 10 2013 19:13 GMT
#65185
I finished watching Xam'd Lost Memories, it was a pretty good show.
+ Show Spoiler +
The only things I didn't like were the episode where Furuichi goes crazy Xam'd mode, and they just casually killed Raigyo as if they just wanted to kill a character for dramatic effect. The ending was like a wtf ending, but I was expecting something like that so it was good. Also, I really liked the epilogue part after the ending battle and stuff, that part was really good. I'm not really disappointed that Akushiba didn't get the girl cause you could when he would have when he was talking on the radio with Nakiami. Also, Akushiba should have got more screen time, he was the #1 character in my opinion.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 10 2013 19:19 GMT
#65186
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

+ Show Spoiler [White Album 2] +
Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
+ Show Spoiler [White Album 2] +
Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
+ Show Spoiler +
TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
+ Show Spoiler +
I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 19:44:43
November 10 2013 19:29 GMT
#65187
On November 10 2013 23:16 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 14:30 BigFan wrote:
On November 10 2013 14:16 Spazer wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:56 BigFan wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:49 Ecael wrote:
To me Arpeggio combat just comes down to using bullshit powers in mysterious ways and ignoring how combat has ever worked because of magi...I mean highly advanced technologies. I had an easier time ignoring stuff like that in other works, but for some reason Arpeggio just ticks me off. The politics and subs are basically what's keeping me reading the manga.

As for Tokyo Ravens, if I put up with it for another like 8 episodes I might see a good fight at last. If I can keep up with it for even longer Sakura Ayane will be back to carry the show. Now how long can I endure the pain~

Well, the show is about the Fog having very powerful ships with advanced technology. I'm not sure what you expected from that lol. I mean, yes, that episode where + Show Spoiler +
they defeated Takao with the gun(or w/e its called) was a bit out of the blue(for anime at least)
but the fights seem well done. I made a mention to a friend of mine about it a while back. He ended up finding the show even though I only gave him some general description and watched it. He ended up loving it and watches it every week. Considering what the show is about, I think it's impressive that they are keeping us interested in it even if politics had to be involved. When was the last time we had an anime about ships fighting + Show Spoiler +
and submarines winning against heavy ships?
lol.

The point is that Arpeggio is much more than just the combat. One of the most interesting parts of the story involves the political wrangling with the Japanese government, and how the ground forces (ie. not the navy) are itching for a fight after being rendered useless for years by the Fog.

Also, Silent Service.

hmm I guess I see your point. I didn't realize the ground army is itching to get into a fight with the Fog since the anime doesn't touch on that. Either way, I plan to read the manga after the anime is done so I'll be able to get all the politics and such

just read the manga now. Much more Takao action in there anyways and I'm already scared they might scrap all that for the anime
+ Show Spoiler [pic] +
http://img.batoto.net/comics/2012/01/22/a/read4f1c21f02c59d/img000028.png

I want to but worried that if I get into the manga, I'll drop the anime. Once I got into Naruto's manga, I stopped watching completely and don't want that to happen yet lol. I might consider starting it sooner than later though.

On November 11 2013 03:22 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 18:10 BigFan wrote:
On November 10 2013 16:27 Sterlymobile wrote:
Golden Time 6
+ Show Spoiler +
Linda looks so much better with long hair. Even though I didn't expect things to pick up so suddenly with Linda and Bahnri. I'm starting to like this show quite a bit. All the VA are doing an exceptional job imo, really getting each point across. Even though it looks like Koko will be main girl, from the OP and stuff, I'm still 100% team Linda. Well played Golden Time keeping up the tradition of best girl never main girl.

ya they are doing a good job with that. + Show Spoiler +
I'm also team Linda and hope he ends up with her but considering what the story is, he'll likely end up with koko. The show seems to have gotten better in the last two episodes or so compared to when it first started so let's hope it continues that way.


no favorite here! but i expect delicously heartrending drama.

ya, same here. It's gonna happen sooner than later! lol.

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

+ Show Spoiler [White Album 2] +
Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
+ Show Spoiler [White Album 2] +
Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
+ Show Spoiler +
TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post
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TanKLoveR
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November 10 2013 19:59 GMT
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On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote:

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On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post

Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy.
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 10 2013 20:06 GMT
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Kyousuke!, chaban da!

They really did justice to my favorite scene in LB.

The anime has been a little rushed, but so far it's been pretty good. A lot better than first season. Part of it is probably because Refrain is pretty linear compared to the rest of the VN. But not only that, the animation and art is a lot better than the first season too.

And now on to Refrain. I wonder which ending they will choose. I think that they will most likely go with Rin End over the harem end. And obviously bad end is out of the question
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
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November 10 2013 20:33 GMT
#65190
On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote:
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On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote:

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post

Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy.

:O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
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On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well.

I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? I only said 2011 because of two things: Book cover was 2007 and he said it's been 3 years of hard work so 2010. Added 2011 since it depends on when it was in 2007. I missed the clock, what episode? time? Yes of course. I'm just comparing it to people I've known before who's dream was to become a doctor since they were kids, that kind of thing and when compared to this dream, it doesn't seem as long. I guess I see a dream as something hard to achieve but once achieved, it makes you happy then again, that's the way I was looking at it. Either way, ya, I guess it's a dream. ya, he said that was the reason to join the band as well. Well, I'm not saying it was their fault. She probably didn't like what was going on and how close they got. I think it's mostly that she's unstable and less so about being too faced. You take that back about Setsuna! D:

Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol.

Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after Lizuka gave it to Touma, maybe because he figured that she can do the music since she is talented. My guess at least. It was likely done offscreen, as in Lizuka told him offscreen. hehe ya, rumours are going around. I think it can only add to the show tbh. Will they silence the rumours or let them propagate? Toradora, they tried to silence them the hard way Well, come back when? they are in their final year, aren't they? no time to come back if she leaves I think. Festival is late Nov means graduation in June. Even if she does get jealous, her fault for leaving them lol. I would like to see a jealous Touma though XD

STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ya, backgrounds are good to look at for hints. Maybe, I'll rewatch some more episodes soon enough as well. I never said the clock lied. Just saying that the timeline is screwed up with the dates and what he said when he talks with Setsuna about it at the end. SETSUNA IS NOT LYING! :O I will have to reconsider our anime friendship IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SUCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS AT MY SETSUNA!
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On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote:
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On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote:

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post

Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy.

:O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^

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On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well.

I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? I only said 2011 because of two things: Book cover was 2007 and he said it's been 3 years of hard work so 2010. Added 2011 since it depends on when it was in 2007. I missed the clock, what episode? time? Yes of course. I'm just comparing it to people I've known before who's dream was to become a doctor since they were kids, that kind of thing and when compared to this dream, it doesn't seem as long. I guess I see a dream as something hard to achieve but once achieved, it makes you happy then again, that's the way I was looking at it. Either way, ya, I guess it's a dream. ya, he said that was the reason to join the band as well. Well, I'm not saying it was their fault. She probably didn't like what was going on and how close they got. I think it's mostly that she's unstable and less so about being too faced. You take that back about Setsuna! D:

Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol.

Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after Lizuka gave it to Touma, maybe because he figured that she can do the music since she is talented. My guess at least. It was likely done offscreen, as in Lizuka told him offscreen. hehe ya, rumours are going around. I think it can only add to the show tbh. Will they silence the rumours or let them propagate? Toradora, they tried to silence them the hard way Well, come back when? they are in their final year, aren't they? no time to come back if she leaves I think. Festival is late Nov means graduation in June. Even if she does get jealous, her fault for leaving them lol. I would like to see a jealous Touma though XD

STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ya, backgrounds are good to look at for hints. Maybe, I'll rewatch some more episodes soon enough as well. I never said the clock lied. Just saying that the timeline is screwed up with the dates and what he said when he talks with Setsuna about it at the end. SETSUNA IS NOT LYING! :O I will have to reconsider our anime friendship IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SUCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS AT MY SETSUNA!

I'll update my response later since it's Dota 2 taim , I also have to make food and rewatch some stuff just to give a better response. I told you like a few days ago the date on the clock but on both episode 4 and 5 at the beginning it gives you the time and date. Ep 4 = 2007/11/12 Mon 23:32 and Ep 5 = 2007/11/18 Sun 15:12. And NOU Setsuna is a bi-polar bitch, I liked her at first but she's starting to show her true crazy colors lol. Remember first episode when Haruki asks Io if he knew Setsuna and then goes "Don't you think there's something off about her?", Haruki agrees with me. Man that's 2 references that went completely unnoticed the School days reference and the Kimi Nozo one, hurry up and watch Kimi Nozo! gtfo that IS crap lol.
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Gingitsune is just meh now, I haven't liked it since the guy and the other fox got there.

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On November 11 2013 07:37 TanKLoveR wrote:
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On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote:

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post

Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy.

:O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well.

I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? I only said 2011 because of two things: Book cover was 2007 and he said it's been 3 years of hard work so 2010. Added 2011 since it depends on when it was in 2007. I missed the clock, what episode? time? Yes of course. I'm just comparing it to people I've known before who's dream was to become a doctor since they were kids, that kind of thing and when compared to this dream, it doesn't seem as long. I guess I see a dream as something hard to achieve but once achieved, it makes you happy then again, that's the way I was looking at it. Either way, ya, I guess it's a dream. ya, he said that was the reason to join the band as well. Well, I'm not saying it was their fault. She probably didn't like what was going on and how close they got. I think it's mostly that she's unstable and less so about being too faced. You take that back about Setsuna! D:

Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol.

Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after Lizuka gave it to Touma, maybe because he figured that she can do the music since she is talented. My guess at least. It was likely done offscreen, as in Lizuka told him offscreen. hehe ya, rumours are going around. I think it can only add to the show tbh. Will they silence the rumours or let them propagate? Toradora, they tried to silence them the hard way Well, come back when? they are in their final year, aren't they? no time to come back if she leaves I think. Festival is late Nov means graduation in June. Even if she does get jealous, her fault for leaving them lol. I would like to see a jealous Touma though XD

STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ya, backgrounds are good to look at for hints. Maybe, I'll rewatch some more episodes soon enough as well. I never said the clock lied. Just saying that the timeline is screwed up with the dates and what he said when he talks with Setsuna about it at the end. SETSUNA IS NOT LYING! :O I will have to reconsider our anime friendship IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SUCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS AT MY SETSUNA!

I'll update my response later since it's Dota 2 taim , I also have to make food and rewatch some stuff just to give a better response. I told you like a few days ago the date on the clock but on both episode 4 and 5 at the beginning it gives you the time and date. Ep 4 = 2007/11/12 Mon 23:32 and Ep 5 = 2007/11/18 Sun 15:12. And NOU Setsuna is a bi-polar bitch, I liked her at first but she's starting to show her true crazy colors lol. Remember first episode when Haruki asks Io if he knew Setsuna and then goes "Don't you think there's something off about her?", Haruki agrees with me. Man that's 2 references that went completely unnoticed the School days reference and the Kimi Nozo one, hurry up and watch Kimi Nozo! gtfo that IS crap lol.

ya, that's fine. Necessities first. I have to clean some more and also make food as well XD Yes, you're right. I completely forgot about those two parts >< I guess I'm too excited to see what happens next and end up ignoring the clocks lol. NO she is not. Here's the thing: + Show Spoiler +
first episode, Haruki knew she was putting on a facade or something like that. I think he mentioned it to her when they were at the swings since I think most of the class doesn't talk to her because of how she looks or something. Have to check on that last part but point is, she isn't bipolar. She's just leading a double life (in a way). I think her two lives are starting to collide though since Haruki got involved.

No way she's bipolar rofl. If she was bipolar, she would be doing reckless things and have very risky behaviour. What's her most riskiest behaviour? Trying to get Touma to call her by her first name? XD
You my friend, are just bias towards Setsuna, just like you are bias towards Taiga. Believe it or not, the loudest or most dramatic characters can add a lot to the show I'll give Kimi Nozo another try soon. I think there was one more anime I wanted to try but can't remember the name.

Tried after it was suggested:
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Was very pleased with how the anime is so far. I haven't watched a vampire anime before although I have to say it feels weird that Kojo is attracted to Yukina and vice-versa. If they somehow end up together at the end, it's gonna feel so odd so I'm hoping that it's offscreen rofl. The idea of the show is interesting. I don't have other experience to compare it to unfortunately. I am interested to see what direction the show will move in. The first progenitor sounds like he's going to become trouble for Kojo and with his lack of experience, well, it's gonna be bad. Seeing his head get chopped off though, wow lol. My friend made a mention but I wasn't thinking about it when it happened. It was like wtf, the head is off and I know he's gonna live but how? So much for suspension of disbelief XD Aside from that though, it's good so far.

Thanks to anyone who recommended this

Kyoukai no Kanata: seems so bizzare. Watched bits of the first episode. It seems ok but nothing spectacular compared to some of the other shows I'm watching atm. Maybe the first episode was too lacking and I should try another?
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On November 11 2013 09:36 BigFan wrote:
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On November 11 2013 07:37 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote:

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.>

ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post

Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy.

:O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^

On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote:

On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote:
I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype .

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Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks.

Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O".

They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!.

I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show .


Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old.

YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD
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Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it.

Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist.

Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it.
Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to Think about it. When have you ever shared a personal story with someone?

I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it.

I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all.

edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details!


Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this:
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TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while

I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE!


hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR!

Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew.
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I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing.

Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away.

Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now.

I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!.

Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori . That would be interesting to see if something similar is on the way, would she even get jealous? She's so cold lol.

To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! lol.
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well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well.

I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? I only said 2011 because of two things: Book cover was 2007 and he said it's been 3 years of hard work so 2010. Added 2011 since it depends on when it was in 2007. I missed the clock, what episode? time? Yes of course. I'm just comparing it to people I've known before who's dream was to become a doctor since they were kids, that kind of thing and when compared to this dream, it doesn't seem as long. I guess I see a dream as something hard to achieve but once achieved, it makes you happy then again, that's the way I was looking at it. Either way, ya, I guess it's a dream. ya, he said that was the reason to join the band as well. Well, I'm not saying it was their fault. She probably didn't like what was going on and how close they got. I think it's mostly that she's unstable and less so about being too faced. You take that back about Setsuna! D:

Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol.

Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after Lizuka gave it to Touma, maybe because he figured that she can do the music since she is talented. My guess at least. It was likely done offscreen, as in Lizuka told him offscreen. hehe ya, rumours are going around. I think it can only add to the show tbh. Will they silence the rumours or let them propagate? Toradora, they tried to silence them the hard way Well, come back when? they are in their final year, aren't they? no time to come back if she leaves I think. Festival is late Nov means graduation in June. Even if she does get jealous, her fault for leaving them lol. I would like to see a jealous Touma though XD

STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ya, backgrounds are good to look at for hints. Maybe, I'll rewatch some more episodes soon enough as well. I never said the clock lied. Just saying that the timeline is screwed up with the dates and what he said when he talks with Setsuna about it at the end. SETSUNA IS NOT LYING! :O I will have to reconsider our anime friendship IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SUCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS AT MY SETSUNA!

I'll update my response later since it's Dota 2 taim , I also have to make food and rewatch some stuff just to give a better response. I told you like a few days ago the date on the clock but on both episode 4 and 5 at the beginning it gives you the time and date. Ep 4 = 2007/11/12 Mon 23:32 and Ep 5 = 2007/11/18 Sun 15:12. And NOU Setsuna is a bi-polar bitch, I liked her at first but she's starting to show her true crazy colors lol. Remember first episode when Haruki asks Io if he knew Setsuna and then goes "Don't you think there's something off about her?", Haruki agrees with me. Man that's 2 references that went completely unnoticed the School days reference and the Kimi Nozo one, hurry up and watch Kimi Nozo! gtfo that IS crap lol.

ya, that's fine. Necessities first. I have to clean some more and also make food as well XD Yes, you're right. I completely forgot about those two parts >< I guess I'm too excited to see what happens next and end up ignoring the clocks lol. NO she is not. Here's the thing: + Show Spoiler +
first episode, Haruki knew she was putting on a facade or something like that. I think he mentioned it to her when they were at the swings since I think most of the class doesn't talk to her because of how she looks or something. Have to check on that last part but point is, she isn't bipolar. She's just leading a double life (in a way). I think her two lives are starting to collide though since Haruki got involved.

No way she's bipolar rofl. If she was bipolar, she would be doing reckless things and have very risky behaviour. What's her most riskiest behaviour? Trying to get Touma to call her by her first name? XD
You my friend, are just bias towards Setsuna, just like you are bias towards Taiga. Believe it or not, the loudest or most dramatic characters can add a lot to the show I'll give Kimi Nozo another try soon. I think there was one more anime I wanted to try but can't remember the name.

Tried after it was suggested:
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Was very pleased with how the anime is so far. I haven't watched a vampire anime before although I have to say it feels weird that Kojo is attracted to Yukina and vice-versa. If they somehow end up together at the end, it's gonna feel so odd so I'm hoping that it's offscreen rofl. The idea of the show is interesting. I don't have other experience to compare it to unfortunately. I am interested to see what direction the show will move in. The first progenitor sounds like he's going to become trouble for Kojo and with his lack of experience, well, it's gonna be bad. Seeing his head get chopped off though, wow lol. My friend made a mention but I wasn't thinking about it when it happened. It was like wtf, the head is off and I know he's gonna live but how? So much for suspension of disbelief XD Aside from that though, it's good so far.

Thanks to anyone who recommended this

Kyoukai no Kanata: seems so bizzare. Watched bits of the first episode. It seems ok but nothing spectacular compared to some of the other shows I'm watching atm. Maybe the first episode was too lacking and I should try another?

KnK: You should give it a shot, I honestly didn't watch episode 1 because I heard it was lacking but I started form episode 2 and it's been a good enough show. Episode 6 was the funniest thing I ever watched, so just for that it was worth it .

Well I don't mean she's mentally ill, but she's two faced and pretty nutty. Yeah I recognize that part of the swings but that is not what I mean and I don't think that's what Haruki was talking about. In the first episode someone mentioned I think it was him describing Setsuna, how everyone thought there was more to her that she wasn't really showing to people (not the job and blah blah crap). It's not me being biased AGAINST her and being all WOOO TOUMA BEST GIRL!, there is something seriously off about her, trust me.
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At one point this girl will blow up and cause some serious damage. To be honest I think she's meant to be that character, the crazy jealous and irrational one, I think she hates Touma she's just pretending not to for now... I really do think that. I mean didn't her friends stop talking to her because some guy confessed to her?, I can see her over reacting for much less if something were to happen with Touma and Haruki her reactions to pretty much any new developments that she wasn't into from the beginning she always has this like this bitch is stealing haruki isn't she? I HATE HER! look on her face. All those odd reactions we've discussed I think that's basically what that is, remember what Touma said that Setsuna would probably be her best friend or her worst enemy and I think we will go for the latter.

Not just because of the fact that we're dealing with a love triangle here so someone will most likely end up hurt and or alone, but because this girl is not stable, she is not honest about her feelings and her persona is fake as hell. I don't mean the pageant queen bs or the idol persona that she has to put up to keep appearances, which Haruki mentioned he sort of liked how she freaked out about it constantly trying to keep appearances, I think there is a very crazy person locked inside her. That moment when they told her about the song she just had this "Wow shocking I'm the last one to know, AGAIN...". I hope she's not crazy, I don't dislike her or think she's a bad character, or that she doesn't add anything to the show, quite the opposite. But that doesn't really erase the fact that there is something really odd about her, if I'm wrong I won't mind being so but I doubt it lol.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 11 2013 02:12 GMT
#65195
Arg, go away to a conference and come back way behind on anime
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 02:52:35
November 11 2013 02:46 GMT
#65196
On November 11 2013 11:12 Slaughter wrote:
Arg, go away to a conference and come back way behind on anime

you're watching like 5 right? that's less than 2 hours of watching. Back to back! :D

edit: Between Clannad and Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, which would you guys recommend? Both are finished animes and seem interesting. Pet seems more comedy, Clanned more serious. Also, if anyone else still has any other ongoing anime, do tell.

PS thanks to the posters who recommended Magi. Seems good, still deciding whether to watch it or not since it seems a bit odd when you consider the story.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 11 2013 02:59 GMT
#65197
Clannad is probably better, Sakarasou is meh although it does have its moments.

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Best girl loses again
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
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Last Edited: 2013-11-11 03:02:00
November 11 2013 03:01 GMT
#65198
On November 11 2013 11:59 Kipsate wrote:
Clannad is probably better, Sakarasou is meh although it does have its moments.

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Best girl loses again

Sakarasou seems more comedic which I like although Clannad sounds like it's worth watching as well. Read the spoiler, that could be subjective although I can guess who you thought it was since I saw a decent chunk of the first episode. thanks!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 11 2013 03:04 GMT
#65199
I liked them both a lot, but Clannad and Clannad After story are really good. Dem feels.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 11 2013 03:08 GMT
#65200
On November 11 2013 12:04 Slaughter wrote:
I liked them both a lot, but Clannad and Clannad After story are really good. Dem feels.

there's an after story? :O I just checked and dam, got spoiled hard XD Maybe I should wait on watching Pet then. btw, I think you recommended that right?
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