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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2014 09:18 GMT
#18581
I'm at Marineford now. I'm glad Coby's ass got rekt. I would have been mad if he had actually somewhat held his own vs Luffy
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 23 2014 09:36 GMT
#18582
On September 23 2014 16:10 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 13:00 TMG26 wrote:
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own



Luffy would do the same for Zoro.

Any member of the crew would do the same for other crew members tbh. Everysingle one of the showed that they are willing to die for each die from time to time.


yes, truly. OP world is beautiful (going to the path of best shounen universe) and there is no toxicity in SH crew so far.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 23 2014 10:09 GMT
#18583
On September 23 2014 18:36 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 16:10 goody153 wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:00 TMG26 wrote:
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own



Luffy would do the same for Zoro.

Any member of the crew would do the same for other crew members tbh. Everysingle one of the showed that they are willing to die for each die from time to time.


yes, truly. OP world is beautiful (going to the path of best shounen universe) and there is no toxicity in SH crew so far.


The Water 7 arc was as close as it's going to get, imo, to the crew breaking up.
maru lover forever
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 23 2014 10:55 GMT
#18584
On September 23 2014 19:09 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 18:36 BurningSera wrote:
On September 23 2014 16:10 goody153 wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:00 TMG26 wrote:
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own



Luffy would do the same for Zoro.

Any member of the crew would do the same for other crew members tbh. Everysingle one of the showed that they are willing to die for each die from time to time.


yes, truly. OP world is beautiful (going to the path of best shounen universe) and there is no toxicity in SH crew so far.


The Water 7 arc was as close as it's going to get, imo, to the crew breaking up.


ohya i forgot about that. now i think back of it it is like some couple fighting rofl
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 23 2014 11:31 GMT
#18585
It's not about one willing to risk his life for the others.

I think it's important that Luffy has a drive forward and endless enthusiasm that the other crew members don't have.
[spoiler]Zoro turned down the invitation of baroque works, and spent years just being a low bounty hunter in East Blue.
Sanji felt too responsible and indebted to leave his mentor and surrogate father Jeff.
Nami and Usopp have trouble dealing with resistance, both emotionally and physically.
Chopper thought he could never have friends.
Robin has become jaded over the years. Before meeting Luffy she was satisfied to just continue existing.
Franky has had bad experiences with his dreams before and put them on the backburner for years.
Brook's journey came to a halt when he got trapped by Gekko Moria.
Consider how old they all are. Luffy is actually the second youngest of the whole crew. Only chopper is 2 years younger.
Luffy was 17, Usopp was 17 as well, Nami was 18, Zoro and Sanji were 19.
Robin was 28, Franky was 34, Brook was trapped in the mist over 50 years.

If they had the same drive forward as Luffy, they would have been farther along to their goals, and not 6 of them would have still been close to their hometowns.

TL:DR: Luffy is actually an amazing leader. Not because he is the main character, but because Oda actually knows what makes a good leader. Oda is as smart as Sabo .[/u]
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44138 Posts
September 23 2014 12:19 GMT
#18586
@mataza yah i agree .. that's what i meant about luffy being charismatic and the reason why they are pumped to travel.
this is a quote
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
September 23 2014 13:52 GMT
#18587
Zoro is that young?...
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 23 2014 14:06 GMT
#18588
On September 23 2014 18:18 Shellshock wrote:
I'm at Marineford now. I'm glad Coby's ass got rekt. I would have been mad if he had actually somewhat held his own vs Luffy

Yeah, but at the time I had a double feeling about it anyway. I was glad, because it seemed he was really improving and doing quite well (compared to before). But he did some of those cp9 techniques, which made me worry about how far he was going to improve in the near future.

I'm really curious actually when he'll be appearing the manga again, i hope pretty soon.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 23 2014 15:04 GMT
#18589
On September 23 2014 20:31 Mataza wrote:
It's not about one willing to risk his life for the others.

I think it's important that Luffy has a drive forward and endless enthusiasm that the other crew members don't have.
[spoiler]Zoro turned down the invitation of baroque works, and spent years just being a low bounty hunter in East Blue.


I agree with the other, but where did you see that he spent years?


He tells Luffy right after he sees him that he will survive the full month and that he can't die because he has a dream to fulfill.

Luffy also "blackmails" him. After Zoro says that the swords are his treasures, he states that if he wants his swords back he would have to join.


Also, after he joins Luffy he stated that if he got in the way of his dream, he will make him commit harakiri.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 23 2014 15:45 GMT
#18590
The simple fact is just that luffy is a professional harem builder and all crew members love him and fight with/for him just so they can see/help luffy to go as far as possible for his dreams (and also achieve their dreams along the way).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2014 20:21 GMT
#18591
On September 23 2014 23:06 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 18:18 Shellshock wrote:
I'm at Marineford now. I'm glad Coby's ass got rekt. I would have been mad if he had actually somewhat held his own vs Luffy

Yeah, but at the time I had a double feeling about it anyway. I was glad, because it seemed he was really improving and doing quite well (compared to before). But he did some of those cp9 techniques, which made me worry about how far he was going to improve in the near future.

I'm really curious actually when he'll be appearing the manga again, i hope pretty soon.

I wouldn't mind if he improved a lot during the timeskip or whatever but he started so far behind Luffy that putting him anywhere near Gear 2nd Luffy on a mission to save Ace would have just been befuddling to me.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 20:23:58
September 23 2014 20:23 GMT
#18592
There's an unknown admiral left. Coby hasn't appeared yet post-timeskip.

I dunno guys.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 23 2014 20:30 GMT
#18593
The unknown admiral I think is a purple bull? Coby is like a pink something. Won't do.
maru lover forever
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 20:37:15
September 23 2014 20:36 GMT
#18594
Green Bull. Fujitora is Purple.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 23 2014 20:37 GMT
#18595
What if he dyed his hair green
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2014 20:43 GMT
#18596
what if Zoro is secretly also an admiral double agent
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TL+ Member
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 23 2014 20:45 GMT
#18597
my bad my bad
maru lover forever
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 23 2014 20:56 GMT
#18598
On September 24 2014 05:21 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 23:06 Yorbon wrote:
On September 23 2014 18:18 Shellshock wrote:
I'm at Marineford now. I'm glad Coby's ass got rekt. I would have been mad if he had actually somewhat held his own vs Luffy

Yeah, but at the time I had a double feeling about it anyway. I was glad, because it seemed he was really improving and doing quite well (compared to before). But he did some of those cp9 techniques, which made me worry about how far he was going to improve in the near future.

I'm really curious actually when he'll be appearing the manga again, i hope pretty soon.

I wouldn't mind if he improved a lot during the timeskip or whatever but he started so far behind Luffy that putting him anywhere near Gear 2nd Luffy on a mission to save Ace would have just been befuddling to me.
Oh lol, i didnt understand this post and just now noticed you said marineford instead of water 7. I thought you were referring to the fight luffy and coby had after garp talked to the crew. Sorry about that.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 24 2014 02:28 GMT
#18599
On September 23 2014 09:46 Mataza wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.

Without Luffy the best thing Zoro could do would travel around and fight strong people for the sake of it. Zoro alone doesn't go out of his way for things, he wouldn't antagonize many people and he wouldn't befriend many people.
Why is that bad for Zoro?
Because it's not only a bit dull, it would also be too peaceful and he might miss the opportunity to get stronger opponents because he doesn't start big scale conflicts.

Now, Luffy has a very vague goal. It's more like a dream, an adventure. Luffy maybe cherishes the journey itself more than his goal. His sense of what is right and wrong is very strong(a strong agenda) and he is very proactive about it. That makes his path quite clear in every new situation and leads to a lot of conflicts.
Luffy is quite literally a troublemaker. One who can potentially incite conflicts at a moment's notice and piss off big guys very quickly.
Not only is Zoro likely to get into more fights with stronger opponents when following Luffy, he will also be doing the right thing most of the time all the time.

Because let's be honest: Would Zoro traveling alone ever have attacked several bases of the Marine and encountered a buster call aimed at him?
Probably not.



I'm sorry I read that bolded part and could help but think of this.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 21:52:40
September 24 2014 21:52 GMT
#18600
I really think Zoro would have a good chance to win against Luffy but that is not that important!

Like so many people said only Luffy would have had the will power to have gathered this group of people, for sure Zoro would always be strong and would improve if he joined another crew or the marines. But they had to be righteous. For instance i can see him work for Garp or maybe Smoker but never a guy like Akainu. He could work for Shanks but not Kidd or DD.

He always had the dream because of the promisse he made and i think he liked Luffy and knew that following him would put him closer to his dream.. they all did because Luffy makes people believe in themselves and in their group.
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