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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 22 2014 17:42 GMT
#18561
On September 23 2014 01:12 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 00:58 Forikorder wrote:
On September 23 2014 00:54 Incognoto wrote:
On September 23 2014 00:40 Forikorder wrote:
id say there the same stregnth but Luffy is capable of beating tougher guys then Zoro i dont think Zoro has the same strength of will that would pull Luffy through hell if need be


I'd say I disagree but I don't have the willpower to go through such an argument. I thought the Kuma incident would have been enough to dispel this, though.

im not saying hes at all weak willed, but i dont think he could have succeeded in taking down impel down getting to mariejoas and freeing ace

im just saying that luffy has a stronger will then he does

Being strong willed i think zoro also has it in him.

But he isn't charismatic as luffy. Which was needed to get the job done.

there was also the strength of will needed to survive the stuff iva pumped in him and finish days early

theres a reason that Zoro follows Luffy
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 22 2014 17:45 GMT
#18562
Strong or not, Zoro is the most boring and uninteresting Strawhat. EOD
you no take candle
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 22 2014 18:00 GMT
#18563
I don't see what your opinion have to do with Explosive Ordnance Disposal?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 22 2014 18:02 GMT
#18564
I expected Sabo to be alive because the 3 cups at whitebeards and Ace's grave was on the cover of the chapter right after Luffy's flashback ended. That + the panel at Zoro's village talking about treating someone injured were the biggest giveaways.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2014 18:06 GMT
#18565
On September 23 2014 02:45 sc2holar wrote:
Strong or not, Zoro is the most boring and uninteresting Strawhat. EOD


EOD?

I strongly disagree, though then again there isn't a single uninteresting Straw Hat.
maru lover forever
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 22 2014 19:20 GMT
#18566
On September 23 2014 03:06 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 02:45 sc2holar wrote:
Strong or not, Zoro is the most boring and uninteresting Strawhat. EOD


EOD?

I strongly disagree, though then again there isn't a single uninteresting Straw Hat.

Well each to his own, i guess some people are just into characters with absolutley zero personality/charisma? It doesnt surpsise me one bit since there is also a ton of mihawk fanboys out there...
you no take candle
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2014 19:28 GMT
#18567
On September 23 2014 04:20 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 03:06 Incognoto wrote:
On September 23 2014 02:45 sc2holar wrote:
Strong or not, Zoro is the most boring and uninteresting Strawhat. EOD


EOD?

I strongly disagree, though then again there isn't a single uninteresting Straw Hat.

Well each to his own, i guess some people are just into characters with absolutley zero personality/charisma? It doesnt surpsise me one bit since there is also a ton of mihawk fanboys out there...


Zoro just doesn't give a shit, that' sall lul
maru lover forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 19:59:04
September 22 2014 19:58 GMT
#18568
Nami pre-time skip was my favorite character.

She just wasn't the same after timeskip.
this is a quote
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18417 Posts
September 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#18569
On September 23 2014 04:58 goody153 wrote:
Nami pre-time skip was my favorite character.

She just wasn't the same after timeskip.


Give her some time
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44138 Posts
September 22 2014 20:23 GMT
#18570
On September 23 2014 05:06 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 04:58 goody153 wrote:
Nami pre-time skip was my favorite character.

She just wasn't the same after timeskip.


Give her some time

Idk man it's either Oda turned her into a generic walking boobs.

Or she is not getting enough screen time to be the same nami as she was pre-timeskip.
this is a quote
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 22 2014 21:39 GMT
#18571
Amongst the entire crew, Nami is probably the one who changed the least. The only difference now is that her hair is longer, and apparently is one of few female characters who looks bettrr with short hair vs long hair.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 22 2014 21:50 GMT
#18572
On September 23 2014 06:39 Sentenal wrote:
Amongst the entire crew, Nami is probably the one who changed the least. The only difference now is that her hair is longer, and apparently is one of few female characters who looks bettrr with short hair vs long hair.


Yeah I wish she still had short hair because long hair just makes her seem more generic. At least there Koala with short hair.

TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 22 2014 23:33 GMT
#18573
On September 23 2014 02:42 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 01:12 goody153 wrote:
On September 23 2014 00:58 Forikorder wrote:
On September 23 2014 00:54 Incognoto wrote:
On September 23 2014 00:40 Forikorder wrote:
id say there the same stregnth but Luffy is capable of beating tougher guys then Zoro i dont think Zoro has the same strength of will that would pull Luffy through hell if need be


I'd say I disagree but I don't have the willpower to go through such an argument. I thought the Kuma incident would have been enough to dispel this, though.

im not saying hes at all weak willed, but i dont think he could have succeeded in taking down impel down getting to mariejoas and freeing ace

im just saying that luffy has a stronger will then he does

Being strong willed i think zoro also has it in him.

But he isn't charismatic as luffy. Which was needed to get the job done.

there was also the strength of will needed to survive the stuff iva pumped in him and finish days early

theres a reason that Zoro follows Luffy


Luffy's charisma, and because by following him he will meet stronger swordsman. Zoro warned Luffy to not get in his way when he accepted to join the crew. Zoro also said that he will leave if he accepted Usopp without getting an apology.

Iva showed Luffy resistance, Kuma showed Zoro's.

But they think in pretty similar ways. Like the Hero's speech or when pasts are being discussed. Both of them fall asleep or just go for a walk.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 23 2014 00:46 GMT
#18574
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.

Without Luffy the best thing Zoro could do would travel around and fight strong people for the sake of it. Zoro alone doesn't go out of his way for things, he wouldn't antagonize many people and he wouldn't befriend many people.
Why is that bad for Zoro?
Because it's not only a bit dull, it would also be too peaceful and he might miss the opportunity to get stronger opponents because he doesn't start big scale conflicts.

Now, Luffy has a very vague goal. It's more like a dream, an adventure. Luffy maybe cherishes the journey itself more than his goal. His sense of what is right and wrong is very strong(a strong agenda) and he is very proactive about it. That makes his path quite clear in every new situation and leads to a lot of conflicts.
Luffy is quite literally a troublemaker. One who can potentially incite conflicts at a moment's notice and piss off big guys very quickly.
Not only is Zoro likely to get into more fights with stronger opponents when following Luffy, he will also be doing the right thing most of the time all the time.

Because let's be honest: Would Zoro traveling alone ever have attacked several bases of the Marine and encountered a buster call aimed at him?
Probably not.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 01:18:02
September 23 2014 01:16 GMT
#18575
On September 23 2014 09:46 Mataza wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.

Without Luffy the best thing Zoro could do would travel around and fight strong people for the sake of it. Zoro alone doesn't go out of his way for things, he wouldn't antagonize many people and he wouldn't befriend many people.
Why is that bad for Zoro?
Because it's not only a bit dull, it would also be too peaceful and he might miss the opportunity to get stronger opponents because he doesn't start big scale conflicts.

Now, Luffy has a very vague goal. It's more like a dream, an adventure. Luffy maybe cherishes the journey itself more than his goal. His sense of what is right and wrong is very strong(a strong agenda) and he is very proactive about it. That makes his path quite clear in every new situation and leads to a lot of conflicts.
Luffy is quite literally a troublemaker. One who can potentially incite conflicts at a moment's notice and piss off big guys very quickly.
Not only is Zoro likely to get into more fights with stronger opponents when following Luffy, he will also be doing the right thing most of the time all the time.

Because let's be honest: Would Zoro traveling alone ever have attacked several bases of the Marine and encountered a buster call aimed at him?
Probably not.


? Luffy met Zoro as he was about to get executed by the marines (a corrupt one). He did this while being nice to a girl and making a "friend" you could say. That and he was a pirate hunter who went around hunting pirates as his means of getting by. He would have wound up on the grand line sooner or later (Remember how he was recruited by Baroque Works?) He has plenty of potential to do crazy stuff on his own.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 23 2014 03:17 GMT
#18576
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 23 2014 03:27 GMT
#18577
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own

a better man? In what way?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 23 2014 03:29 GMT
#18578
On September 23 2014 12:27 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own

a better man? In what way?

i dont know the proper way to say it Luffy just has a stronger sense of self then Zoro, Luffy would never follow anyone and attracts people to follow him in a way Zoro couldnt mimic
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 23 2014 04:00 GMT
#18579
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own



Luffy would do the same for Zoro.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44138 Posts
September 23 2014 07:10 GMT
#18580
On September 23 2014 13:00 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 12:17 Forikorder wrote:
Zoro follows Luffy because Zoro may have a goal(be da stronkest swerdsmon), but it doesn't have a path or an agenda.


then he wouldnt be willing to die for him, zoro has accepted that Luffy is a better man then him and puts his dream above his own



Luffy would do the same for Zoro.

Any member of the crew would do the same for other crew members tbh. Everysingle one of the showed that they are willing to die for each die from time to time.
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