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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 19 2014 18:44 GMT
#18521
Law only used that move back on Punk Hazard when his oppenents were either beaten or unaware, so I imagine thats why he can't just do it to anyone.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 18:47:11
September 19 2014 18:46 GMT
#18522
On September 20 2014 03:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 02:13 BlackMagister wrote:
I had forgotten about the persona swap. It would have really been cheap if Law had taken a random DD goon with him and just swapped DD into the goon forcing DD to fight in a weak body with his own strong body having an incompetent user.

Or just swap DD with Trebol. They have completey different powers and would be unable to fight effectivley. Damn plot armor.

DD with bellamy. DD wouldn't even be able to move. After that, kill bellamy's body, so DD's soul is gone. Bellamy will join the crew with DD's body and all lived happily ever after. Or doesnt it work like that?

edit: what Sentenal and ZigguratOfUr say, is probably true.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 19 2014 23:51 GMT
#18523
Indeed, Law's fruit must have some limitations. If there was no way to resist his room ability, DD would lie on the floor in a reverse order stack. Or any other enemy.
I guess body strength helps, or for swapping personalities any form of meaningful struggling.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2014 03:42 GMT
#18524
since Vergo beat him before and thought a bull rush would work i think its safe to assume that Haki works on his "cut" ability

he gestured with his sword when he did the personswap so maybe it works on the same principle?
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 04:57:38
September 20 2014 04:46 GMT
#18525
I've figured that Law chopping people up or swapping their personalities are both things that haki can defend against, thus why Smoker told his crew (and Tashigi) to stay back when they were at Punk Hazard. And also why Law had to actually fight for awhile before finally getting the best of Smoker.

Swapping objects within his area seems to be a simpler technique/not as easily guarded. The anime just covered his fight with Doflamingo, and near the end he swapped Doflamingo with a piece of rubble to try and get a surprise slash in (could show that Haki isn't the super-duper-magic bullet, or maybe Doflamingo wasn't expecting it... seems like he'd be on guard in the middle of a fight, though). Also, I seem to recall during Punk Hazard when he was carrying Chopper around that he 'teleported' through a wall. Didn't see him swap with anything, though would have to double check to be sure whether or not it showed if he actually just moved to empty air rather than swapping with an object.

Found a youtube video that shows some of it:


Speaking of the anime episode though, it really showed how weak Law gets from prolonged usage of his Devil Fruit. He talks about it taking a lot of stamina in the manga, but I never really felt it portrayed as well it as was in the anime when he fought Doflamingo. Also an interesting point is how much it seems Law depends on his Devil Fruit. He's really strong when using it (Vergo, Smoker, most of the Straw Hats, etc.), but once he's tapped out he didn't have a whole lot else to fall back on. Kind of an interesting contrast against Luffy fighting in the coliseum where Luffy fought without using his devil fruit for awhile, though he eventually used it against some of the stronger opponents anyway.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 20 2014 04:49 GMT
#18526
On September 20 2014 13:46 Vortok wrote:
I've figured that Law chopping people up or swapping their personalities are both things that haki can defend against, thus why Smoker told his crew (and Tashigi) to stay back when they were at Punk Hazard. And also why Law had to actually fight for awhile before finally getting the best of Smoker.

Swapping objects within his area seems to be a simpler technique/not as easily guarded. The anime just covered his fight with Doflamingo, and near the end he swapped Doflamingo with a piece of rubble to try and get a surprise slash in (could show that Haki isn't the super-duper-magic bullet, or maybe Doflamingo wasn't expecting it... seems like he'd be on guard in the middle of a fight, though). Also, I seem to recall during Punk Hazard when he was carrying Chopper around that he 'teleported' through a wall. Didn't see him swap with anything, though would have to double check to be sure whether or not it showed if he actually just moved to empty air rather than swapping with an object.

Speaking of the anime episode though, it really showed how weak Law gets from prolonged usage of his Devil Fruit. He talks about it taking a lot of stamina in the manga, but I never really felt it portrayed as well it as was in the anime. Also an interesting point is how much it seems Law depends on his Devil Fruit. He's really strong when using it (Vergo, Smoker, most of the Straw Hats, etc.), but once he's tapped out he didn't have a whole lot else to fall back on. Kind of an interesting contrast against Luffy fighting in the coliseum where Luffy fought without using his devil fruit for awhile, though he eventually used it against some of the stronger opponents anyway.

well if hes tapped out on his DF then hes too tired to actually fight normally so seems like your not taking that into account

DD says that Law was trained pretty extensively in convential combat techniques so i doubt that no DF = no battle ability for Law
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 20 2014 07:01 GMT
#18527
i feel that its just leading up to the declarative luffy saying "i dont care about that" or something with that effect and then the actual fight starting

also this last chapter was translated quite badly on mangapanda
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 20 2014 07:35 GMT
#18528
On September 20 2014 16:01 rabidch wrote:
i feel that its just leading up to the declarative luffy saying "i dont care about that" or something with that effect and then the actual fight starting

also this last chapter was translated quite badly on mangapanda

Tell me about it:
[image loading]
(one of tons of examples this chapter)
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 20 2014 11:03 GMT
#18529
On September 20 2014 16:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 16:01 rabidch wrote:
i feel that its just leading up to the declarative luffy saying "i dont care about that" or something with that effect and then the actual fight starting

also this last chapter was translated quite badly on mangapanda

Tell me about it:
[image loading]
(one of tons of examples this chapter)

Yeah, better re-read this chapter in a few days when real translations will be available.
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
September 21 2014 02:17 GMT
#18530
On September 20 2014 16:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 16:01 rabidch wrote:
i feel that its just leading up to the declarative luffy saying "i dont care about that" or something with that effect and then the actual fight starting

also this last chapter was translated quite badly on mangapanda

Tell me about it:
[image loading]
(one of tons of examples this chapter)

This is my personal favorite:

[image loading]
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
September 21 2014 02:53 GMT
#18531
What the hell was my response when reading their translation too...
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terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 21 2014 03:07 GMT
#18532
I make a random prediction. I'd be amused if it went something like this.
after the dad was killed by mingo the brother thought it was the govt that killed him and that is the event that makes him go mute. Then he eventually learns that mingo was the one who killed him. Then mingo kills cora.
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Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
September 21 2014 06:14 GMT
#18533
On September 21 2014 12:07 terranghost wrote:
I make a random prediction. I'd be amused if it went something like this.
after the dad was killed by mingo the brother thought it was the govt that killed him and that is the event that makes him go mute. Then he eventually learns that mingo was the one who killed him. Then mingo kills cora.


Why would Law survive then?
It's probably Corazon who took a shine to the young boy, since everyone was laughing at him for being clumsy but Law wasn't. So in the end to save Law he gives him his life.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
September 21 2014 07:46 GMT
#18534
On September 21 2014 15:14 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 12:07 terranghost wrote:
I make a random prediction. I'd be amused if it went something like this.
after the dad was killed by mingo the brother thought it was the govt that killed him and that is the event that makes him go mute. Then he eventually learns that mingo was the one who killed him. Then mingo kills cora.


Why would Law survive then?
It's probably Corazon who took a shine to the young boy, since everyone was laughing at him for being clumsy but Law wasn't. So in the end to save Law he gives him his life.

But why would law want to kill doflamingo then?
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
September 21 2014 10:50 GMT
#18535
On September 21 2014 11:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 16:35 Sentenal wrote:
On September 20 2014 16:01 rabidch wrote:
i feel that its just leading up to the declarative luffy saying "i dont care about that" or something with that effect and then the actual fight starting

also this last chapter was translated quite badly on mangapanda

Tell me about it:
[image loading]
(one of tons of examples this chapter)

This is my personal favorite:

[image loading]


Just went and read the manga stream version and everything actually makes so much sense. Guess I'm switching to that now.

I never knew the translations I was reading before were so off (mangareader), you kinda just take it for granted.
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 21 2014 10:57 GMT
#18536
they are usually ok, just sometimes (like this week) they are totally off. Most likely because they got their hands on the chinese version first and translated from that. But seriously changing "let's keep the chaos in check" to "let's keep spreading chaos across the island) is unacceptable.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 21 2014 15:33 GMT
#18537
Yeah, usually all sites have workable translations. Just sometimes it turns into babelfish on the fast working sites("gotta be first at any cost!")
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 21 2014 17:54 GMT
#18538
Sabo finally appears in the anime! (not counting that tv special)

[image loading]
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 21 2014 19:09 GMT
#18539
WTF SPOILERS
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 19:27:44
September 21 2014 19:26 GMT
#18540
I guess the anime couldn't wait till next week and had to spoil it for those who didn't get spoiled by the TV special. Heck some manga readers weren't even sure it was Sabo in the reveal chapter since we never saw Sabo's face.
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