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On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits?
Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story.
Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say.
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On February 04 2014 03:23 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits? Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story. Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say.
And he got owned by a preskip Luffy kinda easily while the whole crew+others supernovas couldn't do a thing against Kizaru. Meh.
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On February 04 2014 03:23 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits? Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story. Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say.
Hahahaha, so you seriously think that the DF that couldnt kill Gan Fell or Pierre is stronger than the Mythical Zoan Fruit that grants the user virtually complete invulerability to anything while not affected by seastone (Marco could take a thousand of enels lightnings and remain unscratched) or the Logia wich can suck in people and completley negate their DF powers? Tell me pal, how usefull is the lightning fruit once the user is caught in the yami yami no mi users dark vortex? Care to explain what Enels fruit brings to the table that the light fruit doesnt do better and faster?
Either you are a top level troll or just super biased and delusional.
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On February 03 2014 17:47 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 17:12 Mataza wrote:
Isn't the arch maxim the third ancient weapon, uranus? (don't laugh, that's the actual name)
We know pluton and poseidon very closely by now. The warship franky had the plans to and the FI princess that can call a murder of seakings.
If you look at the names pluton, poseidon and uranus, you will notice with a google search that poseidon is the god of the sea, and the weapon poseidon is a person living under water, that pluton is the god of the underworld and by extension the god of the (deep) earth, and weapon pluton is a ship which sails on the surface of water.
Lastly uranus is the sky itself. The arch maxim is a flying ship that can produce thunderstorms. The flying doom arch being the ancient weapon named after the sky would be less of a stretch than pluton being a ship.
I seriously can't find out where I got this idea, or maybe it was my own. Enel and the old saint guard built Maxim, and nowhere it is implied that they used Uranus blueprints to do so. Also ,Maxim needs Enel power to work, it wouldn't make sense for an ancient weapon to need a specific user.
... Like Shirahoshi isn't a specific user? :p
This ancient weapon wouldn't need a specific user, if maxim is a weapon. It would need a specific devil fruit. Which is less specific than a mermaid princess, imo.
Edit; Mensol has finally done it. Sanji vs Franky doesn't work but apparently Enel > all is as reliable as always. As expected.
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If there is one person in the OP universe who seems to be able to completley control the power of the skies, Its Dragon and not fucking Enel. If anyone who has been introduced so far in the present storyline is/has the ancient weapon Uranus, its Monkey D. Dragon.
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On February 04 2014 03:52 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:23 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits? Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story. Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say. Hahahaha, so you seriously think that the DF that couldnt kill Gan Fell or Pierre is stronger than the Mythical Zoan Fruit that grants the user virtually complete invulerability to anything while not affected by seastone (Marco could take a thousand of enels lightnings and remain unscratched) or the Logia wich can suck in people and completley negate their DF powers? Tell me pal, how usefull is the lightning fruit once the user is caught in the yami yami no mi users dark vortex? C are to explain what Enels fruit brings to the table that the light fruit doesnt do better and faster? Either you are a top level troll or just super biased and delusional.
Enel can hear entire skypiea island with his goro goro no mi and observer haki. Can Kizaru do that? nope.
Enel can destroy an entire island with Raigo, Can Kizaru do something like that? Nope.
Also i'd like to hear how he is going to get caught by yami yami when he's nuking from 10km away.
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The observation haki doesn't have anything to do with the strength of his fruit....He is comparing fruits not characters.
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On February 04 2014 04:04 Slaughter wrote:
The observation haki doesn't have anything to do with the strength of his fruit....He is comparing fruits not characters.
It does. Goro Goro No mi allowed him to hear entire island, without it he can't do it.
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Pika pika no mi and yami yami no mi are superior than goro goro no mi based on real world physics. for one Lightning is millions times slower than light. (Kizaru can't convert his body instantly into light particles is what keep him from being a god, all his moves have a charge timer for a few seconds)
secondly yami yami no mi can create a black hole which even light can't escape not to mention lightning. if blackbeard is in range to do his blackhole to both enel and kizaru, he would no doubt win the duel.
But if you combine goro goro no mi with the maxim and his imba observation haki then neither kizaru nor black beard can touch him. And don't joke about Enel's lightning is so weak it wouldn't do any damage. It was strong enough to blown up the entire island if not for luffy's giant golden fist to discharge all the energy. Without maxim only chance enel have is to run away and keep his distance 10km with his observation haki, but with his maxim, he is god. Think about how he can instantly discharge his gigantic ball of lightning into the ocean, and wipe out the fishes and destroy the eco-system and have the food web broken to the point of no chance of recovery which will lead to many species going extinct. He doesn't even have to target anywhere near someone with the power to stop him. he can do this in a remote part of the world.
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On February 04 2014 04:04 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 04:04 Slaughter wrote:
The observation haki doesn't have anything to do with the strength of his fruit....He is comparing fruits not characters. It does. Goro Goro No mi allowed him to hear entire island, without it he can't do it.
His range in air is 10km, his range in water is even further. Water conducts electricity better than air.
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On February 04 2014 04:00 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 03:52 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:23 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits? Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story. Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say. Hahahaha, so you seriously think that the DF that couldnt kill Gan Fell or Pierre is stronger than the Mythical Zoan Fruit that grants the user virtually complete invulerability to anything while not affected by seastone (Marco could take a thousand of enels lightnings and remain unscratched) or the Logia wich can suck in people and completley negate their DF powers? Tell me pal, how usefull is the lightning fruit once the user is caught in the yami yami no mi users dark vortex? C are to explain what Enels fruit brings to the table that the light fruit doesnt do better and faster? Either you are a top level troll or just super biased and delusional. Enel can hear entire skypiea island with his goro goro no mi and observer haki. Can Kizaru do that? nope. Enel destroyed an entire island with Raigo, Can Kizaru do something like that? Nope. Also i'd like to hear how he is going to get caught by yami yami when he's nuking from 10km away.
Yes, Kizaru has actually shown to posses that level of destructive power. A single little beam from his finger is enough to blow up an entire battleship. Imagine how much damage his Yasakani no Magatama could do to a chunk of landmass if he channeled it for a couple of minutes or two?
Enel's Observation Haki has never been measured against any other character so that is a groundless statement. And even Pre-timeskip luffy found a way to counter it.
What makes you think the Lightning fruit has longer range than the dark vortex from the "INFINITE gravity" fruit?
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On February 04 2014 04:14 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 04:00 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 03:52 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:23 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 03:18 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 03:09 Mensol wrote:On February 04 2014 02:44 sc2holar wrote:On February 04 2014 02:36 Mensol wrote:
Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Oda going to kill main characters such as Usopp?
Also his fruit is better than pika pika or w/e. If Oda made Robin say something like invincible, you can't say that "his fruit is shit kekekekekekek" Its faaaaar from "shit". But there is no way you can argue that the lightning logia is more powerful than the Light logia based on logic, what we have seen in the manga and simple common sense. The lightning Logia has far to many natural weaknesses. Its useless against elements and matter that does not conduct electicity as shown in skypeia arc, and you could add like 70% of all logias to that list. Come on, use some common sense. What Robin said at THAT point in the manga is sort of irrelevant. No It wasnt. You know there is a book which includes all devil fruits right? Robin probably knew it from that book, you cant say "AT THAT POINT or shit". It's definitely the best fruit we've ever saw. If you honestly think the Lightning Logia is stronger than fruits such as Marco's Mythical Zoan fruit (Wich makes him virtually invulnarable to any attack), Borsalino's Pika Pika no Mi or BBs Yami Yami no Mi i think continuing this debate would would only serve to hurt my brain. It has never been stated that Robin owns a book wich includes a description of every devil fruit. And how can Enels logia fruit be the strongest we have seen when Mythical Zoans are said to be more rare and powerful than logia fruits? Then how she said that Goro Goro No Mi is invincible -____- Even people like Sanji and BlackBeard knew and read that book but Robin didnt? cool story. Yep It's stronger than w/e fruit you say. Enel can beat his own heart when it stopped. He's probably an Ancient Weapon which makes him stronger than anyone you say. Hahahaha, so you seriously think that the DF that couldnt kill Gan Fell or Pierre is stronger than the Mythical Zoan Fruit that grants the user virtually complete invulerability to anything while not affected by seastone (Marco could take a thousand of enels lightnings and remain unscratched) or the Logia wich can suck in people and completley negate their DF powers? Tell me pal, how usefull is the lightning fruit once the user is caught in the yami yami no mi users dark vortex? C are to explain what Enels fruit brings to the table that the light fruit doesnt do better and faster? Either you are a top level troll or just super biased and delusional. Enel can hear entire skypiea island with his goro goro no mi and observer haki. Can Kizaru do that? nope. Enel destroyed an entire island with Raigo, Can Kizaru do something like that? Nope. Also i'd like to hear how he is going to get caught by yami yami when he's nuking from 10km away. Yes, Kizaru has actually shown to posses that level of destructive power. A single little beam from his finger is enough to blow up an entire battleship. Imagine how much damage his Yasakani no Magatama could do to a chunk of landmass if he channeled it for a couple of minutes or two? Enel's Observation Haki has never been measured against any other character so that is a groundless statement. And even Pre-timeskip luffy found a way to counter it. What makes you think the Lightning fruit has longer range than the dark vortex from the "INFINITE gravity" fruit?
blackbeard's fruit is yami yami no mi. darkness != gravity his application of the fruit has the effect of gravity vs devil fruit users that he targets. If he had infinite range, when he did that move vs white beard, the rest of the ppl with devil fruit would get pulled in also, not just whitebeard.
and i would agree that Kizaru's destructive power is much better than Enel, he also is faster, and capable of traveling into space without a ship by just beaming himself into photon and travel into other galaxies.(although he have no way of stopping himself until he crash into another solid body) and if he's traveling at the speed of light, time stops for him,(when you travel at high speed, time progress differently the closer you are to speed of light the slower time moves) which also make him forever young.
about observation haki, it was shown that luffy mention zoro and sanji can use haki without seeing them use haki. Which means luffy did it with observation haki by sensing sanji and zoro's haki when they reunited. Enel can easily tell ppl who process high level of haki apart from people who don't from a much greater distance.
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I think an interesting way of thinking about BB's DF is that it is essentially the anti-logia in every way.
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On February 04 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think an interesting way of thinking about BB's DF is that it is essentially the anti-logia in every way.
it is like that. That's why he had been waiting for so damn long when he could have eaten some other fruit.
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On February 04 2014 04:05 rei wrote:
Think about how he can instantly discharge his gigantic ball of lightning into the ocean, and wipe out the fishes and destroy the eco-system and have the food web broken to the point of no chance of recovery which will lead to many species going extinct. He doesn't even have to target anywhere near someone with the power to stop him. he can do this in a remote part of the world.
rei you seem to like discussing "real world logic" in this thread, so I'll remind you that lightning bolts actually have virtually zero impact on marine ecosystems in real life. Real life lightning bolts are also far stronger than Enel's discharges, which go up to a paltry 200 million volts, whereas actual tall stormclouds can provide voltages of 1 billion. When such bolts are dispersed completely over a few tens of meters of ocean at most, they do little in the grand scheme of the ocean, which has thousands of meters of depth left in it.
Of course there's also the fact that the world of One Piece is substantially different from ours. The manga repeatedly reminds us of this fact, almost as if to preclude pointless comparisons or assumptions based on the real world.
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On February 04 2014 05:34 EchOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 04:05 rei wrote:
Think about how he can instantly discharge his gigantic ball of lightning into the ocean, and wipe out the fishes and destroy the eco-system and have the food web broken to the point of no chance of recovery which will lead to many species going extinct. He doesn't even have to target anywhere near someone with the power to stop him. he can do this in a remote part of the world. rei you seem to like discussing "real world logic" in this thread, so I'll remind you that lightning bolts actually have virtually zero impact on marine ecosystems in real life. Real life lightning bolts are also far stronger than Enel's discharges, which go up to a paltry 200 million volts, whereas actual tall stormclouds can provide voltages of 1 billion. When such bolts are dispersed completely over a few tens of meters of ocean at most, they do little in the grand scheme of the ocean, which has thousands of meters of depth left in it. Of course there's also the fact that the world of One Piece is substantially different from ours. The manga repeatedly reminds us of this fact, almost as if to preclude pointless comparisons or assumptions based on the real world.
Also voltage is meaningless without discussion of amperage.
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On February 04 2014 02:03 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 01:50 Mataza wrote:
I am sorry, but you are not the entity who decides the tier system for devil fruits.
Sorry, but when it comes to logias there seems to be obvious tiers that anyone with half a brain can figure out. Magma>Fire (molten rock can smother flames) Ice>Snow (Both are cold-based logias and the former is simply colder) Poison Gas>Smoke (virtually the same shape of matter except the the former is practically a form of highly poisonius smoke) Light>Lightning ("Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger")
Uhh, Light and Lightning are two completely different things. Light isn't a "better" verison of lightning. You know what Lightning actually is, right? And the Goro Goro no Mi has a reputation of being "invincible". Look, I'm one to call Enel weak at every chance I get, but his fruit is anything but. Its asinine to simply dismiss how they described Enel's fruit just because "it was said early on".
Also, Mythical Zoan Fruits are said to be rarer than Logia fruits, but thats it. A fruit's strength isn't decided by its calls. Note that I'm not saying that Enel's fruit is better than Marco's.
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I think enel's observation Haki would be pointless since i from what i observed when two characters that both with observation engages in a duel pretty much makes observation haki useless. So in a close up fight enel's haki will be useless especially since if he is facing trained Haki users like the admirals or even the post-luffy's haki is incredible.
My Conclusion:
1. in a melee fight will never win against the post-characters with haki or against any admirals. Enel's fighting skills + haki is just too far against the the post-timeskip characters .. his intangebility won't even matter obviously against arnament haki
2. in a range fight.. idk depends on the enemy but if he couldn't dodge luffy which he just sucked during pre-time skip then he won't be able to dodge kizaru light attacks or BB's earthquakes or even the attack akainu does where he extends his arm so fast that even whitebeard couldn't dodge it and burned half his face (i couldn't remember which episode was it in the manga they didn't follow it on the anime) .But the majority can't win if he has flew really high maybe.
3. With the factor of maxim where he could fly. Idk since i remember a lot of characters who could chase enemies in the sky like doflamingo or Sanji
4. remember that the 3 admirals could also make a nuke in the scale of what enel could do. Just remember what happened in war arc.
EDIT : wait people are not discussing how invincible or unbeatable enel is in combat. Oh my bad.
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Did we have an entry ceremony for sc2holar to the exclusive One Piece thread club?
Forikorder, chairman,
Rei, vice president,
Afmug,
Sc2holar,
It's taking form. I would add their catch phrases, but I can't find good ones for Afmug and Sc2holar yet.
Btw, electricity can reach speeds of 0.97 c, which is almost the same as the speed of light.
Enel is the only Logia user shown to actually fuse his body with a solid object.
Also Enel has actually destroyed islands. Birka, his home island and the second highest level of the beanstalk on skypiea.
The only other known person which could destroy islands by himself was Whitebeard.
Two admirals, Kuzan and Sakazuki fought for ten days on Punk Hazard. But as far as we know they only did surface damage to the island.
By that fact alone, the Goro Goro No Mi is the second most destructive fruit known to us.
edit: The point that Borsalino can destroy battleships easily is not a sign of being stronger than the lightning fruit. Enel destroyed a small landmass without any preparation or even looking at his target.
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On February 04 2014 07:39 Mataza wrote:Did we have an entry ceremony for sc2holar to the exclusive One Piece thread club?
Forikorder, chairman, Rei, vice president, Afmug, Sc2holar, It's taking form. I would add their catch phrases, but I can't find good ones for Afmug and Sc2holar yet. Btw, electricity can reach speeds of 0.97 c, which is almost the same as the speed of light. Enel is the only Logia user shown to actually fuse his body with a solid object. Also Enel has actually destroyed islands. Birka, his home island and the second highest level of the beanstalk on skypiea. The only other known person which could destroy islands by himself was Whitebeard. Two admirals, Kuzan and Sakazuki fought for ten days on Punk Hazard. But as far as we know they only did surface damage to the island. By that fact alone, the Goro Goro No Mi is the second most destructive fruit known to us.
You forgot to factor out that Enel was aiming to destroy the terrain and the two admirals didn't at that time. If they would aim to destroy the terrain i don't think it's impossible for them. What happened to the island was just AOE of the two.
During the marineford battle i could remember all of the deadly fruit users (kuzan,akainu,whitebeard) was being very careful not blowing up everything in the island.
Not saying that Enel's fruit suck though it maybe even more destructive or versatile than the magma/ice/light/earthquake(possible) fruit but it's not better in a very huge margin. And enel sucks in combat. If the fruit would be used by other characters who are adept in combat now that's where things get crazy.
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