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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
November 14 2013 21:34 GMT
#11161
For some reason we never see Luffy squeeze through things like that elastic dude from Fantastic 4.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 21:49:43
November 14 2013 21:49 GMT
#11162
On November 15 2013 05:27 Incognoto wrote:
Biggest plot hole in One Piece is Luffy being unable to get out of a perfectly normal cage even though he's rubber when he faces Buggy for the first time.

Nah. His clothes stretching and the buttons on his shirt not getting torn off whenever he uses fusen techniques is more of a plot hole than that. He can choose not to bother escaping by squeezing through.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 22:43:03
November 14 2013 22:41 GMT
#11163
Speaking of a hypnotist isn't this Jango?
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/714/11

Nevermind that's Diamante.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 14 2013 23:57 GMT
#11164
On November 15 2013 06:49 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:27 Incognoto wrote:
Biggest plot hole in One Piece is Luffy being unable to get out of a perfectly normal cage even though he's rubber when he faces Buggy for the first time.

Nah. His clothes stretching and the buttons on his shirt not getting torn off whenever he uses fusen techniques is more of a plot hole than that. He can choose not to bother escaping by squeezing through.


That's not a plot hole. Its Oda not wanting to draw all the Logias naked during and after fights.
Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
November 15 2013 05:50 GMT
#11165
I found this quote in my Humanities book here while taking a quiz. It's about the novel Don Quixote.

"By the end of his life, Don Quixote has learned painfully that his noble aspirations cannot be reconciled with the realities of the world, and he dies disillusioned."

I wonder how much, if any, of Doflamingo's character is based on him?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 15 2013 11:45 GMT
#11166
On November 15 2013 14:50 lysergic wrote:
I found this quote in my Humanities book here while taking a quiz. It's about the novel Don Quixote.

"By the end of his life, Don Quixote has learned painfully that his noble aspirations cannot be reconciled with the realities of the world, and he dies disillusioned."

I wonder how much, if any, of Doflamingo's character is based on him?


I don't have the feeling Dofla will die. Oda likes to keep his villains around, or arrested.

As for the basis, well the poetic ending might suit. A lot of characters based on named fictional or real people do share some traits, but not a whole heap. However there's often a reason the name of the person has been tied to the character. Will definitely be interesting to see how Dofla ends up, just on the basis of his name alone =P
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 15:01:22
November 15 2013 15:01 GMT
#11167
On November 15 2013 14:50 lysergic wrote:
I found this quote in my Humanities book here while taking a quiz. It's about the novel Don Quixote.

"By the end of his life, Don Quixote has learned painfully that his noble aspirations cannot be reconciled with the realities of the world, and he dies disillusioned."

I wonder how much, if any, of Doflamingo's character is based on him?


The problem is that this Don Quixote doesn't have a single noble aspiration, he is a depraved and cruel bad guy..

So maybe that's the thing.. this Quixote deserves punishment for his crimes so maybe in the end instead of death he changes and becomes and righteous man..

doesn't seem like it tho
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 15 2013 16:19 GMT
#11168
On November 16 2013 00:01 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:50 lysergic wrote:
I found this quote in my Humanities book here while taking a quiz. It's about the novel Don Quixote.

"By the end of his life, Don Quixote has learned painfully that his noble aspirations cannot be reconciled with the realities of the world, and he dies disillusioned."

I wonder how much, if any, of Doflamingo's character is based on him?


The problem is that this Don Quixote doesn't have a single noble aspiration, he is a depraved and cruel bad guy..

So maybe that's the thing.. this Quixote deserves punishment for his crimes so maybe in the end instead of death he changes and becomes and righteous man..

doesn't seem like it tho

OR Doflamingo was naive and noble before and got kicked out out of Marie Joa for that.

That would put the connection to the original Don Qixote in there. Also that would explain his tragic past he hinted at while talking to Law.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 15 2013 17:11 GMT
#11169
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul
maru lover forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18538 Posts
November 15 2013 18:32 GMT
#11170
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
November 15 2013 18:39 GMT
#11171
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

Well at least he apologized to her about it.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 15 2013 18:46 GMT
#11172
On November 16 2013 01:19 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 00:01 shell wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:50 lysergic wrote:
I found this quote in my Humanities book here while taking a quiz. It's about the novel Don Quixote.

"By the end of his life, Don Quixote has learned painfully that his noble aspirations cannot be reconciled with the realities of the world, and he dies disillusioned."

I wonder how much, if any, of Doflamingo's character is based on him?


The problem is that this Don Quixote doesn't have a single noble aspiration, he is a depraved and cruel bad guy..

So maybe that's the thing.. this Quixote deserves punishment for his crimes so maybe in the end instead of death he changes and becomes and righteous man..

doesn't seem like it tho

OR Doflamingo was naive and noble before and got kicked out out of Marie Joa for that.

That would put the connection to the original Don Qixote in there. Also that would explain his tragic past he hinted at while talking to Law.


wow never tought of that. That could make some sense..
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 15 2013 18:53 GMT
#11173
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 19:12:46
November 15 2013 19:10 GMT
#11174
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#11175
On November 16 2013 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.

ah that's right. but wasnt she her who decided to hit the switch ?
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 16 2013 00:31 GMT
#11176
On November 16 2013 09:21 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.

ah that's right. but wasnt she her who decided to hit the switch ?


Yeah, she would have done it anyway for him, but he did ask her to do it.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 16 2013 04:59 GMT
#11177
On November 16 2013 09:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 09:21 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.

ah that's right. but wasnt she her who decided to hit the switch ?


Yeah, she would have done it anyway for him, but he did ask her to do it.

that just shows how close he and his subordinates are that there on the same wavelength
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18538 Posts
November 16 2013 08:36 GMT
#11178
On November 16 2013 13:59 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 09:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 16 2013 09:21 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.

ah that's right. but wasnt she her who decided to hit the switch ?


Yeah, she would have done it anyway for him, but he did ask her to do it.

that just shows how close he and his subordinates are that there on the same wavelength


still doesn't make him a decent guy, he is the type of person who Luffy hates
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 12:41:18
November 16 2013 12:40 GMT
#11179
On November 16 2013 09:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 09:21 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:10 sumsaR wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:53 Yhamm wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:32 sharkie wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:11 Incognoto wrote:
Doflamingo respects his Nakama which makes him half a good guy already lul


Nah, he sacrificed monet. He isnt a good guy

he didn't, she just lost her heart and was dying. he couldnt do anything anymore for her

Incorrect. She wasn't dying. He could have said "come home", "I'll come and help" or something. Instead he asked her to blow the place and herself up. Though she was already planning to do just that.

She had been missing her heart since Law joined them (Law gave Ceasar his heart as an insurance he'd not betray them, and he got Monet's heart in exchange). She was dying when Ceasar stabbed her heart which he thought was Smoker's, though. That's what stopped her from pressing the button to blow the place up.

ah that's right. but wasnt she her who decided to hit the switch ?


Yeah, she would have done it anyway for him, but he did ask her to do it.


exactly. monet, and clearly the rest of the donquixote family, all love dofla. this clearly shows that dofla genuinely cares for his crew. if you have a crew which has that much respect for the captain, without fearing him (look at trebol rofl), then that means the captain is good to his crew.

we're far from captain kuro or crocodile, even ceasar. far from that
maru lover forever
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 16 2013 12:58 GMT
#11180
That's the thing though, his subordinates are willing to give their lives up for his, but he's not willing to do the same (going by the information we've gotten so far). And he readily accepts/asks his crew to give their lives up at his whim. Those are not qualities Luffy would appreciate. Especially the 'please die for our cause even though it makes me a little sad that you have to die' thing.
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