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evilfatsh1t
Australia8656 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2538 Posts
...Honestly this flashback is a bit dull. The story is really predictable, we haven't learned any new information, and the characters are really boring. Kuma is a mary sue, and the rest of the cast (Ginny, neighbors, the king) are just one note characters. Somehow, even Monkey D. Dragon, supposedly one of the most mysterious entities in the One Piece world, seems completely uninteresting. This might just be whiplash from last chapter which introduced all the Rocks pirates and then off-screened God Valley. It's like being served a steak and then having that taken away and replaced with a can of beans. | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria370 Posts
On November 02 2023 23:06 Hyperbola wrote: Kuma resisted all of her advances though, so who's her real father? More importantly, I think Kuma is officially the first cuckold of the series. ...Honestly this flashback is a bit dull. The story is really predictable, we haven't learned any new information, and the characters are really boring. Kuma is a mary sue, and the rest of the cast (Ginny, neighbors, the king) are just one note characters. Somehow, even Monkey D. Dragon, supposedly one of the most mysterious entities in the One Piece world, seems completely uninteresting. This might just be whiplash from last chapter which introduced all the Rocks pirates and then off-screened God Valley. It's like being served a steak and then having that taken away and replaced with a can of beans. Not only that but it seems like at least 2 more chapters of flashbacks, at least. With this pace, they'll be leaving Egghead after Christmas, so the arc would be nearly 1.5 years of real-life time. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7306 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7306 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Bonnie is the child of Ginny and a Celestial Dragon so, uh, y'know, thats quite dark | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2538 Posts
What a strange illness. Sapphire Scale? I suppose it's not that out of step with other One Piece illnesses like Amber Lead, Tree Fever, and the Ice Oni virus. Maybe just having Ginny develop syphilis is a little too gory for One Piece, eh? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18412 Posts
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RenSC2
United States1058 Posts
On November 09 2023 16:18 sharkie wrote: Is it really so dark and bad? Kuma loves her dearly and has enjoyed his life with her a lot. I actually thought it was a really sweet chapter and I was happy seeing Kuma smile so much. Also at least we now know why he has given himself to the world government Bonney is the rape baby of Ginny and a Celestial Dragon. Ginny was tossed out after getting a terminal illness and Bonney inherited or caught that same illness. Seems pretty dark. The sweet part is that Kuma loves her and treats her as his own daughter. Oda goes dark, but he never lingers there. It also looks likely that Kuma will volunteer to be experimented on in exchange for somehow curing Bonney. My guess is that Bonney will be cloned and her thoughts will be put into that clone by Kuma. There's a reason why Vegapunk keeps referring to her as a child even though she's not that young. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On November 09 2023 18:06 RenSC2 wrote: There's a reason why Vegapunk keeps referring to her as a child even though she's not that young. He refers to her as a child because Bonney is 12. Ginny got captured 14 years before Egghead (see last chapter) and released with baby Bonney 2 years later. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8656 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On November 10 2023 01:49 Shellshock wrote: Is her epithet Jewelry because of the sapphire scales? Man you're really smart! Nice catch! I don't know, personally I remember reading about genocides, dictators, necrophilia, slaves, torture. While the wrapping differs a lot to say Miura, Otomo or Urasawa drawing the same story I would say the spectrum of human behaviour displayed throughout these 25 years is quite realistic. It is well said here above that the good thing is it doesn't linger and hits a more positive tone. So this sad origin story is all sorts of cruel but will somehow wrap up channeling a belief in parental love, strength of science, importance of bonds. And for me, that's a good thing because I want to be reminded of it because generally I do not think this way. I was thinking it is the drawing style first but then I realised the oddness I felt comes from Kuma not having a robocop face. Now he is also going to have to become a king too, it is not so much tragic or sad but more like really tiring and busy. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2538 Posts
I find it amusing how Kuma calls himself a pacifist and yet he spent more than a decade fighting wars for the revolutionary army, overthrew his king single-handedly, and then set off to become a pirate and racked up a 300 million bounty. I'm not saying that I disagree with his actions, only that you can't really call yourself a pacifist if you have a body count if the quadruple digits. | ||
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Sd13
Vietnam186 Posts
For example, think about your claim about Kuma's quadruple digits body count, where does it come from when so far as we see in the chapter, the King that he overthrown/fought twice is still alive, the bounty hunters he fought are also still alive. If you consider body count not as those killed but injured, then all those who are attacked by others and have to defend themselves in the process also racking up body counts? We don't know who die off-screen and can only make assumption regarding casualties that are not shown but so far as what is presented on the page, Kuma has not been painted as an active killer/murderer but more of a protector that only participate in fight/war whence he sees the need to protect people. He is a pirate because he got labeled the Tyrant by the World Government (even though he is chosen as King by his nation's people) and have to flee so that his family and countrymen is not involved with the fight his labeling brought upon. And in the process of defending himself against all Marines and bounty hunters that are ignorance of his circumstances, he got the bounty. Personally, I wouldn't interpret Kuma's "pacifist" word here the same as you in this case, that's just my 2 cents. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
525 Posts
freedom fighters =/= terrorists ! | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2538 Posts
On November 24 2023 12:21 Sd13 wrote: I find it amusing that the way you perceive this might be exactly how the World Government propaganda work on the public. For example, think about your claim about Kuma's quadruple digits body count, where does it come from when so far as we see in the chapter, the King that he overthrown/fought twice is still alive, the bounty hunters he fought are also still alive. If you consider body count not as those killed but injured, then all those who are attacked by others and have to defend themselves in the process also racking up body counts? We don't know who die off-screen and can only make assumption regarding casualties that are not shown but so far as what is presented on the page, Kuma has not been painted as an active killer/murderer but more of a protector that only participate in fight/war whence he sees the need to protect people. He is a pirate because he got labeled the Tyrant by the World Government (even though he is chosen as King by his nation's people) and have to flee so that his family and countrymen is not involved with the fight his labeling brought upon. And in the process of defending himself against all Marines and bounty hunters that are ignorance of his circumstances, he got the bounty. Personally, I wouldn't interpret Kuma's "pacifist" word here the same as you in this case, that's just my 2 cents. Lol, you really don't understand what the term "pacifist" means, do you? If Kuma were a true pacifist then he would have practiced nonviolent resistance, kinda like Gandhi. A true pacifist would have fled from any violence, which is perfect for Kuma since he can fly with his fruit. Try to imagine Gandhi except instead of being a political activist he was part of the Indian equivalent of the Mujaheddin. After a decade of sailing around the former British Empire and starting revolts in the colonies, he returned to India and overthrew the government and placed an Indian nationalist in charge of the country. Then, after being branded a terrorist he was forced to flee and became an international fugitive. That doesn't sound like the Gandhi I remember, in fact, that sounds a whole lot more like Osama Bin Laden! | ||
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