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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Kaidos doesnt look soft or weak at all, to the contrary hes making everyone he fought minus Big Mom look like a chump, and Luffy has had to go up against him multiple times after healing while Kaido has basically been fighting non stop. No matter how you look at Kaido hes been shown to be an utter beast. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 01 2022 17:30 Shinokuki wrote: dude this is all head cannon. WB pirate's will power decreased? You telling me wb pirates did not have the will power to overwhelm akainu when WB himself told marco and others to defend luffy at all cost? Isn't this your own head cannon? Entire marine force? Where the hell did you get that info? Also, who the hell cares about fodder marines? We see literally Akainu and fodder marines by his side. We don't even see any vice admirals. Akainu didn't get ANY help unlike luffy/zoro. He climbed out of that abyss out of his own will which means he was not sidelined. Luffy and Zoro got ass pull medicine and were saved by various people because they were sidelined and out for good UNTIL someone saved them. There's a difference here man. They were literally running away. This is a classic RPG lowering of status. Its also straight cannon in the OP Marineford arc. Almost all the instances of major Whitebeard officers losing an encounter (Jozu and Marco come to mind immediately) are in response to them experiencing extreme negative emotions. On January 01 2022 17:30 Shinokuki wrote: Also, marineford was just a mess of a power scaling arc. There's a data book (backed by oda's official words) that Mihawk is waiting for someone who can surpass his rival Shanks to eventually challenge him again for the throne. Mihawk alone would've faced against shanks no problem. One admiral alone could solo entire red hair pirates as seen by akainu easily brushing off vista/marco attack and also soling entire wb pirates. Idk what makes you think shanks could handle marines. There were also legends like garp who was probably stronger than WB at the time since WB was sick. Marines were well equipped to deal with anything. Hence, the reason why goroseis talk about the great cleansing. Marineford's purpose is to show us all that Luffy is weak, yes. It might be an unreliable narrator on the details. If it is reliable, it means Whitebeard was, at best, 25% his peak, because of the confidence of the Red Hair Pirates. If it isn't, the narrator has opted to show the person who has injured Luffy and killed Ace in the most powerful possible light to show what the protagonist (in this world, a historian writing a Luffy biography) overcame. The reality is the Red Hair Pirates ended the war, even though the situation they stepped into seemed approximately the same as the one the Whitebeard Pirates went into. Why? The answer is that prime Shanks >>> Almost Dead Whitebeard, even if prime WB > Shanks. I'm just waiting until admirals show their power. It's getting more obvious and one piece fans still deny this. I honestly dont understand it. I remember when people like you said doffy = admiral or luffy is now equal to admiral after time skip. And then it was katakuri = admiral. Now people are backtracking to say admiral is slightly below yonko level. It's just waiting game now until people see the obvious truth to all of this. On January 01 2022 17:30 Shinokuki wrote: Also, plot is everything in one piece. Oda isn't a consistent writer. He's pretty bad at it. pre gear 2/haki less luffy beat crocodile who then got locked up in marineford only to stalemate Doffy who would eventually beat law and overwhelm G4 less luffy. It just doesn't make sense man. From story perspective, it's obvious Akainu is gonna be on par with kaido. I give you that kaido is strongest right now but oda is doing everything he can to soften and weaken kaido so Luffy doesn't go all the way to top. Modern Akainu? Almost certainly has climbed to Kaido levels after his two haki boosts of fighting Whitebeard and Aokiji. That is pretty irrelevant. Its like saying Kaoikenx4 Goku = Frieza because SSJ Goku = Frieza. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 01 2022 14:56 Shinokuki wrote: Shouldn't he have been sidelined and out for good? (hint: just like how villians like jack/king/queen are out for good once they take massive damage) What happened after he took that? He came back and faced ENTIRE WB PIRATES. Few days later, he went on to chase the ENTIRE BB pirates. What must it be like to live in a world where the only two levels of damage one can take is "It didn't affect him!" or "It defeated him!" | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 02 2022 04:09 Sentenal wrote: What must it be like to live in a world where the only two levels of damage one can take is "It didn't affect him!" or "It defeated him!" As we know, Kaido did no damage to the scabbards on the roof, b/c Inu and Neko got up and beat Jack and Pero | ||
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Farewellfire
Finland1 Post
Where do you guys watch the anime? Thanks in advance. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8846 Posts
thats where i used to watch it years ago https://www20.watchop.xyz/ seems like this is their site for now is op on break this week again? werent we on break 2 weeks ago too | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On January 07 2022 17:36 evilfatsh1t wrote: watchop? thats where i used to watch it years ago https://www20.watchop.xyz/ seems like this is their site for now is op on break this week again? werent we on break 2 weeks ago too Shonen Jump is on break this week yeah. I'm not sure we're even getting 3 chapters this month. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 07 2022 17:03 Farewellfire wrote: Sorry probably not the right thread to ask but I’ll give it a shot. Since animefreak got taken down I’ve had trouble finding a place to watch one piece online. I can’t use the only ”legal” source I know, crunchyroll, since OP is region restricted there and not available where I live. Where do you guys watch the anime? Thanks in advance. TBH I just torrent batches of them. You can find plenty of batches on Nyaa | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 07 2022 17:03 Farewellfire wrote: Sorry probably not the right thread to ask but I’ll give it a shot. Since animefreak got taken down I’ve had trouble finding a place to watch one piece online. I can’t use the only ”legal” source I know, crunchyroll, since OP is region restricted there and not available where I live. Where do you guys watch the anime? Thanks in advance. Funimation has worked for me recently. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On January 07 2022 21:54 Zambrah wrote: I watch anime on 9anime, last I checked they had plenty of OP They in fact have all of the OP lol. | ||
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herMan
Japan2056 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2551 Posts
Honestly, I'd much rather have Luffy's fruit remain some C rank paramecia that no one gives a shit about, but it seems like the story is pointing in the other direction, with it being some kind of chosen one fruit once you awaken it. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
If they are talking about the Gomu Gomu no Mi then Im going to be disappointed because ignoring the "protagonist must have uber specialness!!!" nature of it, it also just feels like very convenient storytelling, and I find it out of place in OP. I hope its something to do with Zou itself, or just almost anything that the World Government shouldn't have had colossal amounts of obvious intel on. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8846 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8846 Posts
the only character who is even close to awakening a fruit is luffy, and given that his fruit was specifically protected by the wg before, i dont see how theres any other candidate. im gonna guess that the power of luffys devil fruit isnt actually rubber or elasticism, but some other tangentially related power. ive been looking up as many theories as i could about luffys fruit though and havent been able to find a satisfactory answer, even from the hardcore one piece nerds | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Im honestly not even sure they mean awakening in the way that refers to Devil Fruits, possibly an issue with translation. Not to mention the issues with the statement, "That fruit is nothing but a legend for us, even now!" but they knew of and were in possession of the Gomu Gomu no Mi before Shanks stole it, they were in active possession of the fruit like what, a decade ago? The chapter is just constructed REALLY weirdly to be talking about the Gomu Gomu no Mi. I'm not saying its impossible or even improbable that they are talking about the Gomu Gomu no Mi, just that a lot of contextual clues indicate to me that its very possibly something else. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On January 15 2022 00:13 evilfatsh1t wrote: assuming there hasnt been a translation error, the gorosei just spoke about a certain fruit being awakened for the first time in centuries. the only character who is even close to awakening a fruit is luffy, and given that his fruit was specifically protected by the wg before, i dont see how theres any other candidate. im gonna guess that the power of luffys devil fruit isnt actually rubber or elasticism, but some other tangentially related power. ive been looking up as many theories as i could about luffys fruit though and havent been able to find a satisfactory answer, even from the hardcore one piece nerds law and kid both awaken theirs not long ago | ||
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