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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
December 16 2021 02:28 GMT
#31841
On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


World Government = past and present British Commonwealth (incl. America, UK, etc.) + their Allies (i.e. European union) representing the "Colonial Powers" (i.e. Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) and the collective "Western Society"

The rest of the world = people who got colonised/repressed, i.e. most of South America (luffy is some kind of 'south american' race right? Brazilian I think...), Japan (Zoro is japanese) etc. etc.

Yes my friend one piece very much applies to real life.


I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 16 2021 03:53 GMT
#31842
Oh god, that stuff is now spreading to this thread... Good job guys!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
December 17 2021 13:04 GMT
#31843
today's chapter was pretty amazing <3
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 17 2021 17:13 GMT
#31844
The Zoro is racist fan theory getting more ammo
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 17 2021 22:18 GMT
#31845
I thought the face reveal and clash were both too quick and short and that made me think it was anticlimactic
The heart's eternal vow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 17 2021 22:25 GMT
#31846
I like the accelerated fights. OP is about the adventure even more than it is about battling strong people. That is why I love the new cover story! Show me things happening outside of the Straw Hats!
Freeeeeeedom
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
December 18 2021 10:48 GMT
#31847
Really cool chapter. Zoro's ability to cut fire really paying dividends in this arc. About him being racist, isn't it King in the panel saying that I can't lose to a being like you?

I was surprised the fight vs. King concluded so fast, yet I don't feel there was much to go on since his "trick" was revealed. Interesting to see how Kaido used to have the exact same getup his underlings wear now.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
December 18 2021 11:16 GMT
#31848
On December 18 2021 19:48 herMan wrote:
About him being racist, isn't it King in the panel saying that I can't lose to a being like you?

Racist Zoro is a meme that came to life because many of his main opponents are tanned/dark-skinned. Mr. 1, Ohm, Pica and now King.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 18 2021 17:01 GMT
#31849
On December 18 2021 20:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2021 19:48 herMan wrote:
About him being racist, isn't it King in the panel saying that I can't lose to a being like you?

Racist Zoro is a meme that came to life because many of his main opponents are tanned/dark-skinned. Mr. 1, Ohm, Pica and now King.

Yea here’s the joke thread on it https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/pz6fk7/zoro_is_racist/
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 20 2021 12:30 GMT
#31850
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-20 15:01:07
December 20 2021 15:00 GMT
#31851
LOOOOL i only read that link now and i fking lost it at the police officer point
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 20 2021 16:56 GMT
#31852
On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Ha never looked at it that closely before. Also Robin as a flight attendant instead of idk… an archaeologist??
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
December 20 2021 18:38 GMT
#31853
On December 05 2021 22:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I think the problem isn't that Queen has a bunch of crazy powers that is essentially several devil fruit powers that is normally a person has one of each of, but that he does it through the power of science, not fantasy magic. It's like the problem of machine guns, rockets, and walking laser robots in One Piece. They exist, but where is the rest of the technology? Where are the armies of soldiers with machine guns, rockets and laser robots and why are they coexisting beside Napoleonic era guns?

When seastone is introduced, we can see it is widespread and has lots of uses, from simply sticking it to the end of weapons, forming handcuffs and cages and coating ships with it. The power of science as we know in the real world is that it is transferable to all people. It isn't magic available to a few select people who happened to eat a magic fruit. It's the problem of disruption the suspension of disbelief. Oda tried by slowly introducing ridiculous powers of science, like cyborg Franky but Queen is just too much, too bizarre all at once. It's like Tite Kubo and One Piece had a love child and named it Queen.


On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


Well, ye, now I got it, you're just trolling. Enjoy yourself then.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
December 20 2021 21:22 GMT
#31854
On December 16 2021 11:28 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


World Government = past and present British Commonwealth (incl. America, UK, etc.) + their Allies (i.e. European union) representing the "Colonial Powers" (i.e. Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) and the collective "Western Society"

The rest of the world = people who got colonised/repressed, i.e. most of South America (luffy is some kind of 'south american' race right? Brazilian I think...), Japan (Zoro is japanese) etc. etc.

Yes my friend one piece very much applies to real life.

WTF is this?

On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Pretty strange that the crew members who have jobs that have real life counterparts wouldn't have them. There's no reason why as well as Chopper not being a doctor, Sanji would not be a chef, Robin an archaeologist or historian, Franky as a cyborg scientist or engineer, and Brook as a musician.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-22 21:13:30
December 21 2021 11:14 GMT
#31855
On December 21 2021 06:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2021 11:28 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


World Government = past and present British Commonwealth (incl. America, UK, etc.) + their Allies (i.e. European union) representing the "Colonial Powers" (i.e. Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) and the collective "Western Society"

The rest of the world = people who got colonised/repressed, i.e. most of South America (luffy is some kind of 'south american' race right? Brazilian I think...), Japan (Zoro is japanese) etc. etc.

Yes my friend one piece very much applies to real life.

WTF is this?
People who see something that took something from RL and think that everything else in that universe needs to follow suit. Are the WG and especially the Marines inspired by the British Empire and does OP take inspiration from the colonial times? Yes. Does that mean that everything else needs to fit with that analogy? Definitely not.

We can see that pretty easily in the Wano arc where it's not the BE or the Netherlands who became the power behind the Japanese throne, but a bunch of pirates who are much harder to find a historical preset for. Also f.e. Sakazuki is 100% a Japanese stereotype and even his name is Japanese.

Also Luffy's inspiration is very likely DB's Son Goku whom he shares loads of traits with and who's inspired by Sun Wukong the monkey king, something Oda was apparently very aware of when he named him Monkey D. Luffy.
On December 21 2021 06:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Pretty strange that the crew members who have jobs that have real life counterparts wouldn't have them. There's no reason why as well as Chopper not being a doctor, Sanji would not be a chef, Robin an archaeologist or historian, Franky as a cyborg scientist or engineer, and Brook as a musician.

If I've learned anything about Oda's last page comments/letter responses (SAS iirc) it's that they are more often joking than serious. To boot who knows how the question was phrased.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-21 11:36:03
December 21 2021 11:35 GMT
#31856
On December 21 2021 06:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2021 11:28 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


World Government = past and present British Commonwealth (incl. America, UK, etc.) + their Allies (i.e. European union) representing the "Colonial Powers" (i.e. Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) and the collective "Western Society"

The rest of the world = people who got colonised/repressed, i.e. most of South America (luffy is some kind of 'south american' race right? Brazilian I think...), Japan (Zoro is japanese) etc. etc.

Yes my friend one piece very much applies to real life.

WTF is this?

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Pretty strange that the crew members who have jobs that have real life counterparts wouldn't have them. There's no reason why as well as Chopper not being a doctor, Sanji would not be a chef, Robin an archaeologist or historian, Franky as a cyborg scientist or engineer, and Brook as a musician.


Given the context Im assuming its all a joke, but even with that in mind something about Chopper not being a doctor triggers a little angry red light in my head, lol
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 22 2021 01:04 GMT
#31857
On December 21 2021 01:56 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Ha never looked at it that closely before. Also Robin as a flight attendant instead of idk… an archaeologist??

To give food for the people shipping her with Franky since he's listed as a pilot, duh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 23 2021 00:31 GMT
#31858
On December 21 2021 20:35 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2021 06:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On December 16 2021 11:28 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
On December 12 2021 04:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It is bizarre, but what I find strange is someone arguing that One Piece applies to real life.


World Government = past and present British Commonwealth (incl. America, UK, etc.) + their Allies (i.e. European union) representing the "Colonial Powers" (i.e. Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) and the collective "Western Society"

The rest of the world = people who got colonised/repressed, i.e. most of South America (luffy is some kind of 'south american' race right? Brazilian I think...), Japan (Zoro is japanese) etc. etc.

Yes my friend one piece very much applies to real life.

WTF is this?

On December 20 2021 21:30 Zambrah wrote:
Is it weird that what bothers me most in that thread is the picture of what the Straw Hats would do for professions irl and that it had Chopper as something other than fucking doctor?

Pretty strange that the crew members who have jobs that have real life counterparts wouldn't have them. There's no reason why as well as Chopper not being a doctor, Sanji would not be a chef, Robin an archaeologist or historian, Franky as a cyborg scientist or engineer, and Brook as a musician.


Given the context Im assuming its all a joke, but even with that in mind something about Chopper not being a doctor triggers a little angry red light in my head, lol


Its a commentary about personalities from what I can tell. The crew in OP all have dreams that are related to their role on the crew, all of which are the result of in-universe circumstances that would be unlikely to replicate in the real world.

Chopper for example is basically an orphan who was adopted by a doctor and Chopper inherited his will.
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
December 28 2021 20:25 GMT
#31859
King was kind of a letdown, imo. He didn't seem all that powerful like Katakuri or interesting like Queen. I wish he never took off his mask. Now the mystery is all gone and he looks like a femboy with fire powers. Boring.
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
December 28 2021 20:26 GMT
#31860
On December 29 2021 05:25 Hyperbola wrote:
King was kind of a letdown, imo. He didn't seem all that powerful like Katakuri or interesting like Queen. I wish he never took off his mask. Now the mystery is all gone and he looks like a femboy with fire powers. Boring.


its just shonen plot progression. Watch akainu make kaido/big mom look weak
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