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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
November 11 2021 00:22 GMT
#31781
I'll hold my breath and opinion until I see how they do with Cowboy Bebop. That'll be there first american full live action series and not just a movie. If they do good there, I'll have hope for One Piece. I do appreciate the casting choices for One Piece, alot of them look like the characters they are playing, without any makeup/clothing/special effects etc.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
November 11 2021 01:53 GMT
#31782
On November 11 2021 09:22 Zooper31 wrote:
I'll hold my breath and opinion until I see how they do with Cowboy Bebop. That'll be there first american full live action series and not just a movie. If they do good there, I'll have hope for One Piece. I do appreciate the casting choices for One Piece, alot of them look like the characters they are playing, without any makeup/clothing/special effects etc.

I don't think CB is a good benchmark because CB doesn't really have super powers and is strongly influenced by English media anyways. To boot CB is originally one season and there arguably is already a live action series with strong similarities in firefly.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-11 03:10:25
November 11 2021 03:08 GMT
#31783
On November 11 2021 10:53 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2021 09:22 Zooper31 wrote:
I'll hold my breath and opinion until I see how they do with Cowboy Bebop. That'll be there first american full live action series and not just a movie. If they do good there, I'll have hope for One Piece. I do appreciate the casting choices for One Piece, alot of them look like the characters they are playing, without any makeup/clothing/special effects etc.

I don't think CB is a good benchmark because CB doesn't really have super powers and is strongly influenced by English media anyways. To boot CB is originally one season and there arguably is already a live action series with strong similarities in firefly.


I mean the base of One Piece is just a young boy wanting to be a pirate, it doesn't get super heavy with powers until later on. They could more easily do OP than CB imo, space and all the futuristic cities are alot more CGI intensive than some devil fruit powers. They don't have to even go very far with the first season of OP, however long it takes to get Luffy to meet Sanji realistically which is only like 20 episodes of the anime.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 11 2021 03:58 GMT
#31784
On November 11 2021 12:08 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2021 10:53 Archeon wrote:
On November 11 2021 09:22 Zooper31 wrote:
I'll hold my breath and opinion until I see how they do with Cowboy Bebop. That'll be there first american full live action series and not just a movie. If they do good there, I'll have hope for One Piece. I do appreciate the casting choices for One Piece, alot of them look like the characters they are playing, without any makeup/clothing/special effects etc.

I don't think CB is a good benchmark because CB doesn't really have super powers and is strongly influenced by English media anyways. To boot CB is originally one season and there arguably is already a live action series with strong similarities in firefly.


I mean the base of One Piece is just a young boy wanting to be a pirate, it doesn't get super heavy with powers until later on. They could more easily do OP than CB imo, space and all the futuristic cities are alot more CGI intensive than some devil fruit powers. They don't have to even go very far with the first season of OP, however long it takes to get Luffy to meet Sanji realistically which is only like 20 episodes of the anime.


Practical effects and sets (which would IMO make the Merry look much better) don't have a great track record with netflix though.

The thing about OP is a live action is its a combination of realism and over the topness. Like, the first episode of the series would be just a bunch of guys in a bar drinking, a boy eating a nasty rubber fruit. Then those pirates just murdering some bandits and then a fucking sea dragon appears.
Freeeeeeedom
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
November 11 2021 06:03 GMT
#31785
yeah for me the effects is my 2nd concern. how do you capture the mood of one piece in a live action? a lot of the humour in one piece is just something that cant be replicated by a real life person. can you imagine the actor for sanji trying to say "NAMI SWANNNNNNN"? the thought of an actual human being doing that makes me cringe
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18625 Posts
November 11 2021 06:08 GMT
#31786
On November 11 2021 05:46 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2021 18:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On November 10 2021 15:39 LennX wrote:
https://deadline.com/2021/11/one-piece-netflix-cast-live-action-series-inaki-godoy-mackenyu-emily-rudd-jacob-romero-gibson-taz-skylar-1234870853/

‘One Piece’ - Netflix Live-Action Series announced. 10 episodes

i dont have to see anymore to know already that this is going to be an absolute disaster. i dont understand why producers continue to embarrass themselves with live action adaptations of animes. nothing they do will appease fans or be considered good

I thought the Japanese Deathnote live action was good and the Phoenix Wright one was at least funny. But I get your point and these are much much easier to do than OP. Also both were Japanese productions, I've heard only bad things about netflix anime live action adaptions.


Really? I really loved kakegurui
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-11 09:22:06
November 11 2021 08:54 GMT
#31787
On November 11 2021 15:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2021 05:46 Archeon wrote:
On November 10 2021 18:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On November 10 2021 15:39 LennX wrote:
https://deadline.com/2021/11/one-piece-netflix-cast-live-action-series-inaki-godoy-mackenyu-emily-rudd-jacob-romero-gibson-taz-skylar-1234870853/

‘One Piece’ - Netflix Live-Action Series announced. 10 episodes

i dont have to see anymore to know already that this is going to be an absolute disaster. i dont understand why producers continue to embarrass themselves with live action adaptations of animes. nothing they do will appease fans or be considered good

I thought the Japanese Deathnote live action was good and the Phoenix Wright one was at least funny. But I get your point and these are much much easier to do than OP. Also both were Japanese productions, I've heard only bad things about netflix anime live action adaptions.


Really? I really loved kakegurui

There is a live action kakegurui? All I could find was an anime.

On November 11 2021 12:08 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2021 10:53 Archeon wrote:
On November 11 2021 09:22 Zooper31 wrote:
I'll hold my breath and opinion until I see how they do with Cowboy Bebop. That'll be there first american full live action series and not just a movie. If they do good there, I'll have hope for One Piece. I do appreciate the casting choices for One Piece, alot of them look like the characters they are playing, without any makeup/clothing/special effects etc.

I don't think CB is a good benchmark because CB doesn't really have super powers and is strongly influenced by English media anyways. To boot CB is originally one season and there arguably is already a live action series with strong similarities in firefly.


I mean the base of One Piece is just a young boy wanting to be a pirate, it doesn't get super heavy with powers until later on. They could more easily do OP than CB imo, space and all the futuristic cities are alot more CGI intensive than some devil fruit powers. They don't have to even go very far with the first season of OP, however long it takes to get Luffy to meet Sanji realistically which is only like 20 episodes of the anime.

Imo CB is pretty low on the futuristic elements and there was a lot of space based scifi in the past, including a lot of series without a ton of budget. You can do a lot with practical effects instead of CGI, especially in a series like CB which doesn't have a ton of space fights, exclusively humans and where buildings etc are mostly based on already existing ones.

CB's depiction of the future is mostly about introducing interstellar travel and else moving cultural elements into the future. A lot of planets have basically no scifi elements at all unless you count Spike flying around in his fighter.

Luffy without Gum Gum on the other hand sounds really odd to me and I really struggle to imagine how that's ever gonna look good in a live action movie. Or like others said how they're going to hit the over-the-top tongue in cheek humor of one piece. There's no doubt which project I'd rather direct between a ragtag family of misfits in space with film-noir elements and an over the top pirate adventure with superpowers. One of these two is way closer to normal mainstream US television and can lean on star trek and firefly.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 11 2021 19:27 GMT
#31788
Cowboy Bebop is a lot more well suited to a live action adaptation than One Piece. One Piece is hyper stylized beyond most other anime even, and thats a lot of it's charm, human beings can't even begin to approach fitting in normally in One Piece, and it ruins the aesthetic imo. Its also filled with weird body warping powers that make heavy CG important, anime is already really hit or miss with CG, mixing with live action is a recipe for failure imo.

I also think early OP is weaker, it doesnt really hit it's stride until Arlong Park, and even then the point I start watching One Piece from is Water 7. Theres so much content to get to before all of the pay off stuff... I don't see how One Piece can really be adapted successfully? It'd require a colossal amount of pruning and some Dennis Villeneuve level aesthetic adaptation intelligence.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
November 11 2021 20:16 GMT
#31789
On November 11 2021 17:54 Archeon wrote:
Luffy without Gum Gum on the other hand sounds really odd to me and I really struggle to imagine how that's ever gonna look good in a live action movie.


imo the biggest issue is Zorro, how should a human being cut someone with a sword between his teeth in a real live adaption?
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 12 2021 00:13 GMT
#31790
Live action anime adaptations aren't always terrible, but they usually are. The key is to make massive practical changes for the new medium.

Did you know that Keanu Reeves wanted to do a Cowboy Bebop movie a while ago? It never happened because of budgetary issues, but then we got John Wick instead. Now obviously they're not the same story, but they definitely rhyme in major ways.

I'm glad they're making major changes to the premise. It might still be shit, but it has a much higher chance of succeeding.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 19 2021 19:43 GMT
#31791
One Piece's version of what dinosaurs did when they were alive is what I wish they did in reality.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
November 19 2021 23:06 GMT
#31792
On November 20 2021 04:43 Zambrah wrote:
One Piece's version of what dinosaurs did when they were alive is what I wish they did in reality.

Best part of the chapter for me. Felt like else there didn't happen a lot.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 07:03:20
November 20 2021 07:00 GMT
#31793
Yeah it didn't feel super eventful. I'm dying to see what X Drake's bizarre ass Dinosaur behavior might be now though, lol

Maybe it'd be like, launching his teeth like bullets, or uh, somethin' to do with tiny T-rex arms?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 27 2021 04:03 GMT
#31794
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like Zoro isn’t gonna be descended from Wano after all. Nice.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
November 27 2021 07:33 GMT
#31795
finally we find official confirmation for zoro
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
November 27 2021 09:05 GMT
#31796
So the sword wants conqueror's haki in order to be used correctly or something.

I'm fairly certain Zoro is descendent from Wano. Did you already forget the Zoro looking dude from the flashbacks? He's also just the right age to be born outside of Wano after Kaido took over.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 27 2021 09:16 GMT
#31797
I think it'd be a bit weird for Zoro to be from the Shimotsuki clan with that whole family he trained with being of the Shimotsuki clan too. I think its safe to say its just a passing resemblance in the same way that Luffy looks like Roger.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1085 Posts
November 27 2021 09:49 GMT
#31798
I would assume different branches of the Shimotsuki clan. The old swordsmith left and created a village... one that's allied with the Revolutionary army. When Kaido took over, it wouldn't be surprising for the remaining Shimotsuki clan to send an heir to somewhere safe from Kaido. It just so happens that a family member started a village outside Kaido's reach and they've got the Revolutionaries to help get them there.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
November 27 2021 10:49 GMT
#31799
I would like nothing more if Zoro was just a random person from the village. I just feel that after revealing a significant resemblance to a former Wano samurai, there just isn't any way it would be a random coincidence.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-27 19:04:38
November 27 2021 19:04 GMT
#31800
He could be from Wano but not from that clan specifically. Otherwise why would he be a rando kid coming to the dojo of the son of the main guy? Seems like his dead friend is the one who is related by blood to them.
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