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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18626 Posts
October 30 2021 05:56 GMT
#31761
On October 30 2021 07:42 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter


Welcome to fiction where the main characters dont die!
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
October 30 2021 14:15 GMT
#31762
On October 30 2021 14:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 07:42 Shinokuki wrote:
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter


Welcome to fiction where the main characters dont die!


They aren't main chracters though. Also, the fake-out deaths are what I'm criticizing.
Life is just life
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
October 30 2021 16:37 GMT
#31763
Yeah the Kinemon case was a pretty cheap cop-out. Yet, it was expected because Pell Lives
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-31 12:26:37
October 31 2021 12:18 GMT
#31764
On October 30 2021 07:42 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter

I don't think Kid needs to hurt her, he can just trap her in a giant iron prison, depending on how long the magnetism lasts. Honestly I think it's a great way of taking her out of the picture without taking the spotlight away from Kaido. This was meant to be Kaido's arc after all. Big Mom is not the main event, he is. If both Big Mom and Kaido go down then it kind of cheapens Luffy's victory.

As for Law's power being OP... his fruit was always OP. It is called the OP OP no mi after all
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44258 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-01 07:04:10
November 01 2021 07:03 GMT
#31765
Curious how long Law+Kidd will last vs Big Mom with the awakening. It looks like they can do damage but how far much damage (Doffy had awakening too and he kinda shitted by better haki easily)

On October 30 2021 23:15 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 14:56 sharkie wrote:
On October 30 2021 07:42 Shinokuki wrote:
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter


Welcome to fiction where the main characters dont die!


They aren't main chracters though. Also, the fake-out deaths are what I'm criticizing.

Remember Pell literally tanking a bomb ? Yeah it is kinda a thing at this point we just accept it cause he's clearly not changing the formula (Oda that is)

I've watched/read one piece long enough to know that characters rarely die and even Oda expressed that. Their dreams just die as a way for them to lose.
this is a quote
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-02 23:39:49
November 02 2021 23:18 GMT
#31766
On November 01 2021 16:03 goody153 wrote:
Curious how long Law+Kidd will last vs Big Mom with the awakening. It looks like they can do damage but how far much damage (Doffy had awakening too and he kinda shitted by better haki easily)

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2021 23:15 Shinokuki wrote:
On October 30 2021 14:56 sharkie wrote:
On October 30 2021 07:42 Shinokuki wrote:
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter


Welcome to fiction where the main characters dont die!


They aren't main chracters though. Also, the fake-out deaths are what I'm criticizing.

Remember Pell literally tanking a bomb ? Yeah it is kinda a thing at this point we just accept it cause he's clearly not changing the formula (Oda that is)

I've watched/read one piece long enough to know that characters rarely die and even Oda expressed that. Their dreams just die as a way for them to lose.

I mean Pell did it once and I'm not sure if anyone else did in that arc. And imo that's still the only weak point of the arc. Feels like Kinemon dies every 5 minutes and still somehow isn't dead.

Like I think the number of fake deaths this arc surpasses the number of actual deaths by a lot. I'm not bothered by characters getting knocked out instead of killed, that kinda always was the case in OP. But there are imo too many fake deaths this arc.
low gravity, yes-yes!
charlesdavid7
Profile Joined November 2021
1 Post
November 04 2021 17:18 GMT
#31767
--- Nuked ---
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 05 2021 11:23 GMT
#31768
Why would Big Mom waste a year of her own lifespan? She's 68 years old. Whitebeard was 72 when he died and he was already suffering from bad health.
Can she collect other people's lifespans and give it to herself? If so, then that's fine. But I don't think that's the case because then she wouldn't look so old.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
November 05 2021 14:23 GMT
#31769
Imagine her trying to power herself up by eating her own lifespan and then she just keels over and dies from old age.

Tbf Whitebeard was basically a cancer patient on life support 24/7 outside of the Marineford war. Big Mom is comparetively healthy so she's still got a few years left.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
November 05 2021 14:56 GMT
#31770
Exactly, Whitebeard was on medical support due to his age and probably alcoholism. His reaction speed went to shit, allowing a nobody like Squadroo to stab him. Embarrassing. His heart also gave out in the middle of his fight with Akainu, causing him to plant a solid magma fist in his chest. And he was only 4 years older than Big Mom is right now. Well, 3 technically, since Big Mom just shaved a year off her life, which is quite awful since Big Mom really doesn't seem that healthy to me. She's probably right on the cusp of becoming a geriatric with awful eating habits. I'd be surprised if she didn't have diabetes already. Even if she wins this fight against Kid and Law, I don't think she'll remain an "Empress" for much longer.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 05 2021 21:18 GMT
#31771
On November 05 2021 20:23 Hyperbola wrote:
Why would Big Mom waste a year of her own lifespan? She's 68 years old. Whitebeard was 72 when he died and he was already suffering from bad health.
Can she collect other people's lifespans and give it to herself? If so, then that's fine. But I don't think that's the case because then she wouldn't look so old.



My mate, its this mentality the prevents you from becoming the pirate king!
Freeeeeeedom
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
November 06 2021 09:27 GMT
#31772
On November 05 2021 23:56 Hyperbola wrote:
Exactly, Whitebeard was on medical support due to his age and probably alcoholism. His reaction speed went to shit, allowing a nobody like Squadroo to stab him. Embarrassing. His heart also gave out in the middle of his fight with Akainu, causing him to plant a solid magma fist in his chest. And he was only 4 years older than Big Mom is right now. Well, 3 technically, since Big Mom just shaved a year off her life, which is quite awful since Big Mom really doesn't seem that healthy to me. She's probably right on the cusp of becoming a geriatric with awful eating habits. I'd be surprised if she didn't have diabetes already. Even if she wins this fight against Kid and Law, I don't think she'll remain an "Empress" for much longer.


Nitpicking all day long, aren't you ?

Big Mom could be half giant and giants could have longer lifespans than humans in OP, y'know ?
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
November 06 2021 09:47 GMT
#31773
Isn't it just the point that Big Mom could technically live forever since she feeds off others' souls? So doesn't really matter if she uses a bit of her own span in this situation where quality stuff is scarce.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 06 2021 12:06 GMT
#31774
I dont think she can put souls into other living things, including herself? I think the only case where she can is if soul is being put back into it's original owner
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 07 2021 00:43 GMT
#31775
We all know power scaling is not really relevant anymore in one piece. It's all about the progression within the series. I bet admirals are serious threats to our protagonists next time. I think BB/Akainu will be stronger than BM/KD
Life is just life
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
November 07 2021 04:16 GMT
#31776
when were the admirals not serious threats?
and its been obvious for a long time that the final bosses were going to be blackbeard and the admirals
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 07 2021 08:34 GMT
#31777
Choosing a final antagonist between Blackbeard and Akainu is hard, and I like that
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
November 10 2021 06:39 GMT
#31778
https://deadline.com/2021/11/one-piece-netflix-cast-live-action-series-inaki-godoy-mackenyu-emily-rudd-jacob-romero-gibson-taz-skylar-1234870853/

‘One Piece’ - Netflix Live-Action Series announced. 10 episodes
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
November 10 2021 09:36 GMT
#31779
On November 10 2021 15:39 LennX wrote:
https://deadline.com/2021/11/one-piece-netflix-cast-live-action-series-inaki-godoy-mackenyu-emily-rudd-jacob-romero-gibson-taz-skylar-1234870853/

‘One Piece’ - Netflix Live-Action Series announced. 10 episodes

i dont have to see anymore to know already that this is going to be an absolute disaster. i dont understand why producers continue to embarrass themselves with live action adaptations of animes. nothing they do will appease fans or be considered good
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-10 20:52:18
November 10 2021 20:46 GMT
#31780
On November 10 2021 18:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2021 15:39 LennX wrote:
https://deadline.com/2021/11/one-piece-netflix-cast-live-action-series-inaki-godoy-mackenyu-emily-rudd-jacob-romero-gibson-taz-skylar-1234870853/

‘One Piece’ - Netflix Live-Action Series announced. 10 episodes

i dont have to see anymore to know already that this is going to be an absolute disaster. i dont understand why producers continue to embarrass themselves with live action adaptations of animes. nothing they do will appease fans or be considered good

I thought the Japanese Deathnote live action was good and the Phoenix Wright one was at least funny. But I get your point and these are much much easier to do than OP. Also both were Japanese productions, I've heard only bad things about netflix anime live action adaptions.
low gravity, yes-yes!
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