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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1085 Posts
October 12 2021 01:56 GMT
#31741
On October 12 2021 09:35 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2021 08:24 Zambrah wrote:
Vegapunk is Franky's father! Powerful lineages all around!

Yes he time traveled back in time became a pirate and knocked up franky’s mom

No time travel necessary. Vegapunk was a member of MADS ( https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/MADS ) with Vinsmoke Judge, Caesar Clown, and Queen. So he was an outlaw before being absorbed into the World Government's science division. Not too far of a stretch to say he initially went out to sea as a pirate. Had to drop Franky off at some point... perhaps being chased by marines.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44258 Posts
October 12 2021 09:04 GMT
#31742
On October 12 2021 05:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2021 13:30 goody153 wrote:
On October 11 2021 01:57 herMan wrote:
Usopp's dad is a high-ranking Yonkou pirate, Zoro may very well have an ex-royalty of Wano and current admiral as a father. Of the five people that left East Blue, four have notable blood relatives. I thought it was way cooler and more relatable when these guys were just nobodies sailing out to the world (not counting Luffy who is the MC)

Well at least Nami and Franky are nobodies. Franky may be raised by Roger's shipwright but his lineage is at least random and so is Nami. Chopper too cause he's literally just a deer and Brook. Close enough

Nobodies… for now. Which can always be changed with the open ended orphan plot

Nami is probably the daughter of Enel and Crocodile when he was still a woman. She controls the weather and had a similar hairstyle to crocodile pre time skip. Boom your mind is blown

Well yeah Nami could be a secret princess for all we know lol

For all the jokes about Sanji being PRINCE-san that certainly came true
this is a quote
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
October 12 2021 15:19 GMT
#31743
On October 12 2021 10:56 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2021 09:35 Shellshock wrote:
On October 12 2021 08:24 Zambrah wrote:
Vegapunk is Franky's father! Powerful lineages all around!

Yes he time traveled back in time became a pirate and knocked up franky’s mom

No time travel necessary. Vegapunk was a member of MADS ( https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/MADS ) with Vinsmoke Judge, Caesar Clown, and Queen. So he was an outlaw before being absorbed into the World Government's science division. Not too far of a stretch to say he initially went out to sea as a pirate. Had to drop Franky off at some point... perhaps being chased by marines.

Oh god no, this makes too much Shonen sense. Please Oda, don't you dare do this.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4206 Posts
October 12 2021 19:05 GMT
#31744
Finally got to the timeskip!

I can't imagine that it'd have been like to read week to week for Marineford. 2 years of publication to have it end like that.

I also love how that played into the reunion of the Strawhats. Since for the reader, it felt like a 2 yr time skip since the reader wouldn't have seen those characters together for that amount of time too. Disappointed in luffy and chopper getting duped though >.<
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 22 2021 07:59 GMT
#31745
The puns on big mom's attack names were vicious this chapter
The heart's eternal vow
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
October 22 2021 10:07 GMT
#31746
Killer with that ass pull that we should have seen. Damn
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
October 22 2021 10:19 GMT
#31747
i quite liked the way the killer vs hawkins fight went down. doesnt seem like much of an ass pull and gets rid of a character that was definitely a huge nuisance
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 22 2021 11:47 GMT
#31748
Yeah, its a nice little payoff moment for Killer. Good chapter, Mama-raid is easily the most dangerous pun attack.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
October 22 2021 15:44 GMT
#31749
I hate to nitpick, but Kidd's arm is missing right above the elbow, while Killer chopped off Hawkin's arm right below the shoulder. Kidd should have still felt the hit and part of his arm should have been cut off. But besides that, it was a pretty good chapter.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
October 23 2021 08:16 GMT
#31750
On October 23 2021 00:44 Hyperbola wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but Kidd's arm is missing right above the elbow, while Killer chopped off Hawkin's arm right below the shoulder. Kidd should have still felt the hit and part of his arm should have been cut off. But besides that, it was a pretty good chapter.

There's a panel in the chapter that shows how much of Kid's arm is missing. It's cut off right below the shoulder. Here's a picture from the start of the raid, you can see the metal goes up to and under the shoulder pad. So Oda is consistent with that, but normally he has most of Kid's arm hidden by his shirt and his random feather coat.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
October 23 2021 17:37 GMT
#31751
Few notable plot holes:

1) Why did hawkins decide to include the doll in his left arm? It seems too convenient. I thought Hawkins may have seen kidd missing that arm?
2) We really about to see Law and Kidd defeat Big Meme? Law got destroyed by doflamingo and kid got destroyed by Kaido not too long ago? Both of them barely grew since dressrosa. I hate how luffy is about to defeat kaido but luffy at least got trained by all time legend for 2 years, almost died 2x (for his haki to blossom), got knowledge on internal destruction, is a grandson of Garp, and fought all kind of people. Kaido also took damage from everyone and is clearly weakened. Meanwhile, heavily injured kidd/law about to defeat uninjured big meme.
Life is just life
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
October 24 2021 09:31 GMT
#31752
I don't think you understand what a plot hole means...

About the doll, it makes sense when you consider that Hawkins has to hide a dozen dolls on his person so why not hide one in the arm. And, we don't know yet whether Big Mom will be defeated or not.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
October 24 2021 15:20 GMT
#31753
On October 23 2021 17:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2021 00:44 Hyperbola wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but Kidd's arm is missing right above the elbow, while Killer chopped off Hawkin's arm right below the shoulder. Kidd should have still felt the hit and part of his arm should have been cut off. But besides that, it was a pretty good chapter.

There's a panel in the chapter that shows how much of Kid's arm is missing. It's cut off right below the shoulder. Here's a picture from the start of the raid, you can see the metal goes up to and under the shoulder pad. So Oda is consistent with that, but normally he has most of Kid's arm hidden by his shirt and his random feather coat.

Nope, in that image his arm is obstructed by metal
Here's a better image:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


He clearly has a big chunk of his upper arm still remaining, right above the elbow.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
October 24 2021 17:06 GMT
#31754
On October 24 2021 02:37 Shinokuki wrote:
Few notable plot holes:

1) Why did hawkins decide to include the doll in his left arm? It seems too convenient. I thought Hawkins may have seen kidd missing that arm?
2) We really about to see Law and Kidd defeat Big Meme? Law got destroyed by doflamingo and kid got destroyed by Kaido not too long ago? Both of them barely grew since dressrosa. I hate how luffy is about to defeat kaido but luffy at least got trained by all time legend for 2 years, almost died 2x (for his haki to blossom), got knowledge on internal destruction, is a grandson of Garp, and fought all kind of people. Kaido also took damage from everyone and is clearly weakened. Meanwhile, heavily injured kidd/law about to defeat uninjured big meme.

1) I don't think people target the left arm much. It's not the sword arm and it's not lethal. To boot I don't think Hawkins is used to people just ignoring his power and probably was fairly self-confident that Killer wasn't going to attack him. If you want to criticize the fight Killer going from groveling to "lul, saw through you" and Hawkins admitting that the puppet was Kid's would be better points imo, but all of this is essentially nitpicking.
2) Didn't happen yet and Law is imo a much better fighter in a team match than solo. To boot BM is inside which works against her and she's supposed to be weaker than Kaido. I am still doubting we'll see her go down here, but we'll have to wait and see.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 24 2021 21:15 GMT
#31755
So, about Hawkins keeping Kidd's doll in his arm... Isn't that the most common place he keeps them? Obviously I don't remember ALL the scenes where Hawkins is damaged and 'ejects' used Dolls from his body, but in the ones that I do remember, he ejects them from his arm. In fact, most of the time when Hawkins is using his ability that isn't him going "full body mode" in some way, hes creating Strawmen and such from his arms. So the fact that Kidd's doll was located in Hawkin's arm is likely just how his ability works.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
October 25 2021 08:35 GMT
#31756
...or it's just convenient to draw? We don't want to see how many dolls Hawkins has stuffed in his boxer briefs.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 25 2021 22:17 GMT
#31757
If someone would eat the fruit again and find the Basil-series of dolls would they continue to work?
The heart's eternal vow
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 26 2021 08:50 GMT
#31758
Probably not, but it'd be cool if they did
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
October 29 2021 15:30 GMT
#31759
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
October 29 2021 22:42 GMT
#31760
On October 30 2021 00:30 Hyperbola wrote:
If Kidd traps Big Mom in a giant ball of steel then that's a great way of taking her out of the fight without killing her.

And Law's awakening is... he can make his sword phase through people to get past defenses? That's pretty cool, I guess.


I fail to see how kid can even damage her without ACOC unless he attracts all those explosives in underground basement to her body. Law's kroom is lame. I wish awakening was something like 3-4x expansion of his room or something like that. He can kill anyone he wants now since he's bypassing their defense and targeting their organs. Seems like haki is not even applicable here.

Who knew kinemon was alive!?? Another fake out death and no sense of tension. I don't care that entire island is falling down nor that ghost is putting fire on everything. Who cares? our people will be fine. it don't matter
Life is just life
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