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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 04 2021 05:46 GMT
#31701
Oda does need an editor. But its not because of what the anti-OP people are saying. He needs an editor because battles take too long in the post-timeskip and because he keeps inventing non-straw hat allies that he wants to focus on. Wano and Dressrosa being 3x the length of Alabasta is not because of a sub-antagonist, its because of mission creep.
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 04 2021 09:50 GMT
#31702
Well, it seems that most of us are debating about the lack of focus in the story and what details we didn't like as a reader. Please don't label guys as anti-OP, it's a bit condescending. If people were truly anti-OP, they wouldn't be posting in this thread.

You're right in that as the stakes get higher and the world keeps expanding towards the final arcs, it becomes key on how to manage the world properly so readers won't be frustrated. What pops into my mind is that if you introduce a character, he/she should serve at least a minor purpose instead of just being kooky/cute/whatever. For example, as someone pointed out earlier, I think story-wise five scabbards would have been just as impactful as nine.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18421 Posts
October 04 2021 09:57 GMT
#31703
On October 04 2021 18:50 herMan wrote:
Well, it seems that most of us are debating about the lack of focus in the story and what details we didn't like as a reader. Please don't label guys as anti-OP, it's a bit condescending. If people were truly anti-OP, they wouldn't be posting in this thread.

You're right in that as the stakes get higher and the world keeps expanding towards the final arcs, it becomes key on how to manage the world properly so readers won't be frustrated. What pops into my mind is that if you introduce a character, he/she should serve at least a minor purpose instead of just being kooky/cute/whatever. For example, as someone pointed out earlier, I think story-wise five scabbards would have been just as impactful as nine.


Some in this thread are really anti-OP though - all they do is post how bad OP/Oda is. I dont think it was meant as condescending.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 04 2021 16:01 GMT
#31704
This is like the 3rd year of wano right?
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
October 04 2021 16:47 GMT
#31705
On October 05 2021 01:01 Shellshock wrote:
This is like the 3rd year of wano right?

Yep. According to the wiki, Wano started with chapter 909 back in July of 2018. More than 3 years ago. That's a full year before the covid pandemic started. Time flies and One Piece crawls.
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
526 Posts
October 04 2021 18:36 GMT
#31706
i like the zoro is fighting a sword character that fights extremely dirty and doesn’t care for swordsmanship at all.

king is a brutal character for one piece. this is the 2nd time he tried to end a major character by just tossing them off a cliff instead of actually fighting.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
October 04 2021 23:42 GMT
#31707
On October 04 2021 18:57 sharkie wrote:
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On October 04 2021 18:50 herMan wrote:
Well, it seems that most of us are debating about the lack of focus in the story and what details we didn't like as a reader. Please don't label guys as anti-OP, it's a bit condescending. If people were truly anti-OP, they wouldn't be posting in this thread.

You're right in that as the stakes get higher and the world keeps expanding towards the final arcs, it becomes key on how to manage the world properly so readers won't be frustrated. What pops into my mind is that if you introduce a character, he/she should serve at least a minor purpose instead of just being kooky/cute/whatever. For example, as someone pointed out earlier, I think story-wise five scabbards would have been just as impactful as nine.


Some in this thread are really anti-OP though - all they do is post how bad OP/Oda is. I dont think it was meant as condescending.

Well to me it sounded like he answered to my post and I'm not anti-OP and definitely not flaming all the time how bad Oda is, I mostly enjoy the chapters.

I just think that the arc could have been a bit shorter and more focused and I prolly would have liked it more.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
October 07 2021 13:53 GMT
#31708
I'm actually glad Sanji got some form of power up. Maybe this can be the start of his redemption arc where he's no longer Zoro's understudy.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8669 Posts
October 08 2021 11:36 GMT
#31709
did the chapter come out early this week?
sanji will always be no.3 but yeah its good to see him finally pull his weight
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18421 Posts
October 08 2021 11:46 GMT
#31710
hahaha what a funny chapter!!

I loved the part with queen
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 08 2021 12:53 GMT
#31711
Lots of stuff in this chapter! What I don't get is why the WG would want to annex Wano. I mean, isn't it convenient for them that there still exists a Kozuki heir to bring back the status quo?

I had to go back to the wiki to find what abilities Sanji's brothers had. It seems very likely that he can imbue his leg with fire thanks to his "genetic modifications". They also have some sort of "exoskeleton", seems like that is what stopped Queen's sword.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55552 Posts
October 08 2021 13:13 GMT
#31712
On October 08 2021 21:53 herMan wrote:
Lots of stuff in this chapter! What I don't get is why the WG would want to annex Wano. I mean, isn't it convenient for them that there still exists a Kozuki heir to bring back the status quo?

3 reasons I can think of:

1 - The weapon factories/weapon trade. We saw very early into the arc Orochi negotiating with CP-0.
2 - Wano is a major source of Seastone and has many craftsmen who can make stuff like Seastone bullets.
3 - The Poneglyphs originate from Wano. The WG likes hiding the true history of the world, annexing Wano could help with that.

Also bonus reason, the World Government loves to be in control of shit.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-08 13:29:24
October 08 2021 13:28 GMT
#31713
Keep in mind that Imu runs the government from the shadows and he's clearly aware of Joyboy and the void century and true history of the world. Wano seems to have a mysterious history, as implied by Sengoku during his conversation with Akainu. Besides the resources that come with the island(s), Wano's historical significance and hidden secrets are probably enough for Emu to want to capture it.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
October 08 2021 13:54 GMT
#31714
my reaction to this chapter
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8669 Posts
October 08 2021 14:56 GMT
#31715
On October 08 2021 22:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
my reaction to this chapter
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the plus side is we might get to see a rematch of lucci and luffy one day. that fight in enies lobby is easily top 1 fight scene in op
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55552 Posts
October 08 2021 16:08 GMT
#31716
On October 08 2021 23:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2021 22:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
my reaction to this chapter
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[image loading]

the plus side is we might get to see a rematch of lucci and luffy one day. that fight in enies lobby is easily top 1 fight scene in op

If it's a rematch post Wano once Luffy has recovered from the Kaido fight I don't think Lucci will be able to put up nearly as much of a fight though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
October 08 2021 16:17 GMT
#31717
It would be hilarious to see Luffy in his half-dead state one-shotting Lucci like he's nothing. Would really show how far he's grown.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8669 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-08 17:57:27
October 08 2021 17:57 GMT
#31718
obviously luffy would win but i dont think its too much to ask to show a much stronger lucci also. he seems to have climbed the ranks within the wg well enough, since hes giving orders to cp0 right now
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44153 Posts
October 08 2021 19:29 GMT
#31719
Man Queen is hilarious. I like how all of the Sanji matchups are usually goofballs
this is a quote
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-08 21:39:22
October 08 2021 21:38 GMT
#31720
Queen’s personality makes me feel like he’s a better fit for Blackbeard’s crew than kaido’s

Goofy and ruthless vs serious and ruthless
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